Yumcha

^ Would it make you feel better if the AM was stuffed with parts from India/Sri Lank instead?

Wow.
























You're not getting my snarking, are you? The serious part of my post was written below the Apple example. I did say "But seriously"...

srika

I wonder what repercussions there will be from this.

Yumcha

This is 3 levels down in the supply chain for Aston Martin...hence why it was over-looked. Good thing no one was hurt.

srika

I have a feeling someone's gonna get a hurt real bad inside the company

Yumcha

It's in -land. So, either the entire family is mysteriously gone soon...or, they are rich enough to pay it off and voila, life goes on.

Aston Martin learns from this and does their homework on their entire supply chain.

ttribe

I was serious about punishing SSFTSX.

Yumcha

We need to call in Ron A.

Majofo

srika

disappointing tho. if I want a Chinese car, I'll buy one, ya know?

ttribe

Reading on CNBC, it says they were counterfeit DuPont parts. I'm guessing they had all the correct logos and documentation to keep the counterfeit going. Internal controls can only do so much.

Crazy Bimmer

Its pretty common for the OEMs to have parts made overseas. Nothing new there.

They hired the Chinese contractors but the problem was that they were using crap material.

I can tell you first hand that there are some parts in Fords lineup that is from India.

charliemike

Right or wrong, I feel like India has some morality that the Chinese appear to not have developed yet.

Yumcha

Not to play the racist card...but, both nations are just as bad in cutting corners.

The seem to have a larger profile but I'd say, it's equal.

ttribe

I predict a train wreck if this thread turns to a protracted discussion on the collective morality of certain rising economic powers.

Yumcha

Yeah, let's not go there.

R&P coming into here will be worse than us accusing each other of reposts.








Let's just say that it was not a fine moment when a company was not diligent in their homework from their downstream supplier. If they were aware, shame on them for being short-sighted enough to think they could get away with such a cost-cutting corner. No one was hurt, so, likely no significant lawsuits for death and injury...not saying there won't be litigation...

But, think of this: While nothing failed in the AMs, we have regular OEM parts failing everywhere in cars of all sorts. So, where's the foul and outrage per se? Just the other side of the coin.

charliemike

In my case, it's bias. I work with folks in India all the time.

Aside from the raping, they're a good bunch of people.

Yumcha

Counterpoint: I work with people from India all the time too...and yeah, I'm going to just be polite about it here.

oonowindoo

This has nothing to do with Chinese.

If Aston outsource parts to China. It is Aston's responsibility to monitor QC and Audit to make sure the quality is up to their standard. That is the definition of outsourced OEM.

Every step from material, drawing, inspection and final approval should have been approved by Aston.

Example, Apple products. Even though it is made in China, but the SOPs, quality and final products are all based on Apple's specs/requirement. Not the manuf. that produced them.

Yumcha

Good point, ooyeswindyoo...Ultimately, it falls on AM to do their due diligence.


So, really, it's the white people's fault!

Blame the Chinese...*mutters*

oonowindoo

Our company does a lot of OEM stuff, so if something goes wrong, it is OUR fault.

Even if the manuf. did use counterfeit parts, ultimately it is still Aston's fault.

oonowindoo

so Yumcha = dim sum?

srika

Exactly the point of my albeit tongue-in-cheek ministrations in here.

ttribe

Which is, of course, why they are doing an extensive recall.

oonowindoo

They should have caught it before the product is released.
That only shows their lack of QC and whoever at Aston approved the counterfeit parts should be fired.

JS + XES

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Look at this lol

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Yumcha

LOL is right. I would never do that to an Audi.

oonowindoo

Dont ignore my question

asianspec

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2001 is back?

JS + XES

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Just got my Chemical Guy cleaner/conditioner combo and tried the cleaner on my Avant.

Holy crap, I had to wash the microfiber towel like 4 times just cleaning all seats and steering wheel. WOW, couldn't believe how dirty it was. The steering wheel was the dirtiest place. Had to use the cleaner 3 times just to clean that crap. It was so dirty.

I'm going to clean it one more time and apply the conditioner. Think it's still dirty.

Yumcha

Oh so sollee. Yes, it does...

05TLdcc

I have a '94 968 I used to take to the track. Coupe. You'd be surprised how hard a good one is to find for a semi-decent price. Payed 6500 for mine but I knew the guy selling it, and it was just taking up space in his collection.

The person who wrote that article must have never seen a 968, let alone driven one. The engine is up front, a proper Porsche engineered 3.0 I-4 with about 230 hp. Seriously, just an absolute blast to drive. 50/50 weight distribution with the trans in the rear and can light up even sticky rears.

Sorry, I absolutely adore mine, and seriously never plan on giving it up. They're so rare you can sit one next to any other newer 911 and have everyone in your ear. Plus, they have pop up headlights. Women dig pop up headlights

Yumcha

8 wheel drive!

charliemike

I would love to see Richard Hammond drive this in some hamlet in England and say "sorry ... sorry" over and over while a queue of cars stretches behind him

Yumcha

And there's a hot-tub in it! So, he needs someone in the tub.

charliemike

James and Jeremy, of course.

Aman

I would LOVE to try driving that.

Good news: Insurance settlement on the Jetta is $1500 more than I paid for it.

Yumcha

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SHOPPING TIME BABY!

05TLdcc

asianspec

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congrats.