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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 09:31 PM
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Compare to new LaCrosse

There's an ad showing at the bottom of some threads inviting you to compare the new LaCrosse to the TL. I decided to take a look, and here's the advantage to the LaCrosse:

"2009 Acura TL 5-Spd AT

The Buick LaCrosse features more rear seat legroom than Acura TL."

I'm not dissing the new LaCrosse, it looks good in the ads, and God knows we need a healthier GM here in the Midwest, but how many of us would make the choice based on that particular advantage? Maybe somebody who plays a lot of basketball with tall friends? GM may need a new ad strategy.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 10:56 PM
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I think the new LaCrosse looks fantastic.

BTW, there's a thread about the Buick in Automotive News...
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by shftl
There's an ad showing at the bottom of some threads inviting you to compare the new LaCrosse to the TL. I decided to take a look, and here's the advantage to the LaCrosse:

"2009 Acura TL 5-Spd AT

The Buick LaCrosse features more rear seat legroom than Acura TL."

I'm not dissing the new LaCrosse, it looks good in the ads, and God knows we need a healthier GM here in the Midwest, but how many of us would make the choice based on that particular advantage? Maybe somebody who plays a lot of basketball with tall friends? GM may need a new ad strategy.
More rear seat leg room = more front seat legroom.

Wait until you have to shove a few car seats in the back seat. My 2nd gen TL is pretty good but my in-laws had a 3rd gen and I literally had to ride with my knees banging into the steering wheel because the front seat would hit the car seat.
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 08:48 AM
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Not much of an 'advantage' if you ask me lol.

But I also admit the new Lacrosse really does look nice.
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 08:55 AM
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Considering that the Lacrosse looks like something I might actually buy while the TL looks like something I'd throw eggs at, I'd say thats all the advantage it really needs....
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 09:49 AM
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It looks nice, but how it drives and handles would be my question. I read in a review somewhere that the transmission was very jerky or not smooth, something to that effect. It might have been an Edmunds review, I'm not quite sure. But it does look nice from the outside, and that's a good start.
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by majin ssj eric
Considering that the Lacrosse looks like something I might actually buy while the TL looks like something I'd throw eggs at, I'd say thats all the advantage it really needs....


Originally Posted by LuvMyTSX
It looks nice, but how it drives and handles would be my question. I read in a review somewhere that the transmission was very jerky or not smooth, something to that effect. It might have been an Edmunds review, I'm not quite sure. But it does look nice from the outside, and that's a good start.
The one i recently went in a ride/test drove (while looking for my dads new car, he ended up with a Genesis) was an exceptional car with none of the issues in the Edmunds (which is a joke) article.
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 11:26 AM
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LaCrosse > TL

...just on looks alone.
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by NSXNEXT
More rear seat leg room = more front seat legroom.

Wait until you have to shove a few car seats in the back seat. My 2nd gen TL is pretty good but my in-laws had a 3rd gen and I literally had to ride with my knees banging into the steering wheel because the front seat would hit the car seat.

+1

Tons of people shop around for the most rear leg room. Its important to many.
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Acura
+1

Tons of people shop around for the most rear leg room. Its important to many.
Especially in my car. Im 6'5" people in the back seat dont like me and i dont like having to move my seat forward for them.
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 07:14 PM
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I think the fact that Buick now has the balls and the panache to even compare their car to the TL now is proof enough that they've made leaps and bounds. How many of you were even considering, just a little bit, even looking or test driving a Buick 5-10 years ago?

Now they just need to convince people that what they offer is worth the price of admission.
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 07:57 PM
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GM is finally doing what should have happened 15 years ago: trust their Opel arm to design quality vehicles, then import that design into USDM GM products.

We'll see how this goes in the next few years, as that will be the barometer.
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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
LaCrosse > TL

...just on looks alone.


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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Acura
+1

Tons of people shop around for the most rear leg room. Its important to many.
+2
My in-law hated all my Acuras including the RL because of the constricted rear seat room. The 3G TL was the worst offender. Luckily, I didn't care as front room was always adequate and that's what the wife's Pilot is for.

They still complain of the same problem in the CTS-V, too. Gets me out of chauffeur duty.
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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 12:03 PM
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^ I'll gladly be a passenger in the CTS-V.
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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
^ I'll gladly be a passenger in the CTS-V.
x2

This Buick is definitely a stunner. If I were to replace my TL now it would probably be a G37 sedan, maybe a 4G.

GM products are better by far and I really want to pull the trigger on a G8 GXP, but the owner of the dealership decided to keep the car back in July for his personal stable.
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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by NSXNEXT
More rear seat leg room = more front seat legroom.

Wait until you have to shove a few car seats in the back seat. My 2nd gen TL is pretty good but my in-laws had a 3rd gen and I literally had to ride with my knees banging into the steering wheel because the front seat would hit the car seat.
So should I change your user name to "LacrosseNext"?

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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 02:20 PM
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This is the latest caption in motor trend about this car "Soon, Perhaps, Lexus Will Build A Rival This Good"

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/oftheyear/...#ixzz0XzzYZz8D
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
This is the latest caption in motor trend about this car "Soon, Perhaps, Lexus Will Build A Rival This Good"

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/oftheyear/...#ixzz0XzzYZz8D

For me, the problem is the price. $33K for a Buick, or I can go to the BMW dealer and get a 330i for a base price of $29.4K (yes, it is tourist and diplomatic sales). Buick would have to do a bit better.
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by mrmako
For me, the problem is the price. $33K for a Buick, or I can go to the BMW dealer and get a 330i for a base price of $29.4K (yes, it is tourist and diplomatic sales). Buick would have to do a bit better.
The cheapest 328 "starts" at 32 and goes from there. The next up 335 starts at 42. Well outside of a fully loaded buick. You would have a hard time finding a BMW that was bare bones enough to come in at the starting price.
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 12:53 PM
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I would take the Lacrosse over the TL by look alone. It is nice to have an handsome car.
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
The cheapest 328 "starts" at 32 and goes from there. The next up 335 starts at 42. Well outside of a fully loaded buick. You would have a hard time finding a BMW that was bare bones enough to come in at the starting price.
If you have anything to do with the US military, or US State Department, you can purchase at the price I quoted (for the 328, my bad) of $29K starting price. They have a better price than the US dealers do. All you have to do is be in a country where they (BMW) has a presence (like in Germany, it is Pentagon car sales) and be associated as I said above, even a contractor.

Go here:
http://www.unilife-bmw-military.com/3-series


Of course, once you add options, the price goes up. I know this is a bit off topic.
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 05:54 PM
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has anyone ever seen it in person?
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 06:25 PM
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The LaCrosse only "looks" nice.
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 06:25 PM
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has anyone ever seen it in person?
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmako
If you have anything to do with the US military, or US State Department, you can purchase at the price I quoted (for the 328, my bad) of $29K starting price. They have a better price than the US dealers do. All you have to do is be in a country where they (BMW) has a presence (like in Germany, it is Pentagon car sales) and be associated as I said above, even a contractor.

Go here:
http://www.unilife-bmw-military.com/3-series


Of course, once you add options, the price goes up. I know this is a bit off topic.
To bad 99% of us arent in the military, so for the rest of us it means 32 (if your lucky to find a stripped unit, most have options that get it well above the 32k mark)
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