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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 09:31 AM
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To reiterate to what you alluded...


And the reason we don't get them is... THEY DON"T COMPLY TO US-EPA CODE.. so they are banned until they can either be modified to comply and certified by an ICI or they come of age (21 years).

You are a master link provider & that's great. I have driven two cars through the Nogales border, had them inspected, paid the fee and registered them in Arizona.

I can't speak to anyone's experience other than mine.

Also, they were a 2004 Honda CR-V 4x & 2001 Audi A3 1.8T so neither was anything special.
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Majofo
Good looking ride, decent pep, but still pricey for what it is
I'd still go the E63 Estate route..

Shiettt.. even an older Estate would be tits.
Take that back.. low 40s on some used ones on Cars.com
Shiett.. fuck yeah.. that's a go.

Are the XF-S AWD stout?
I know they've been around for a while.
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 09:43 AM
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E55 Estate.... Bit older, but get that S/C whine & IIRC those are pretty solid engines.

Still.... E63 S [StillerDoIt.gif]
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 09:46 AM
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One thing I've noticed is ... older Merc's (even the E55) has not aged well at all.

I can't see Morgan going from a Golf R with the latest creature comforts to that.

E63 on the other hand ...? That's an upgrade.
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 09:47 AM
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MercedesZine?
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 09:47 AM
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True, going to the S/C E55 would be a big step backwards, tech-wise, though still equally or better comfort.

E63 is the answer.
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by e30cabrio
You are a master link provider & that's great. I have driven two cars through the Nogales border, had them inspected, paid the fee and registered them in Arizona.

I can't speak to anyone's experience other than mine.

Also, they were a 2004 Honda CR-V 4x & 2001 Audi A3 1.8T so neither was anything special.

Drive one of those European ones across the border that isn't allowed to be imported here and report back

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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 09:48 AM
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MercedesZine?

Bringing everyone to my side of Deutchland
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
True, going to the S/C E55 would be a big step backwards, tech-wise, though still equally or better comfort.

E63 is the answer.
For me, I've considered an E55 - it's an excellent car and the powertrain is robust AF.

If you can put up with the insanely slow 5AT, they're torque monsters with bolt-ons and have very long gearing .. I think 3rd makes it to around 130mph
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by TylerT
For me, I've considered an E55 - it's an excellent car and the powertrain is robust AF.

If you can put up with the insanely slow 5AT, they're torque monsters with bolt-ons and have very long gearing .. I think 3rd makes it to around 130mph
man we've come from 3G TL's, i think we're used to insanely slow 5AT's
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Majofo
Take that back.. low 40s on some used ones on Cars.com
Shiett.. fuck yeah.. that's a go.

Are the XF-S AWD stout?
I know they've been around for a while.
I haven't looked into it all that much but recently realized how cheap they are. You can get a fully decked out CPO 2017 or 2018 with 10k miles on the clock for $40k including a 7 year 100k mile warranty, that's a slam dunk good deal.
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 10:30 AM
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Definitely a deal
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Majofo
Take that back.. low 40s on some used ones on Cars.com
Shiett.. fuck yeah.. that's a go.

Are the XF-S AWD stout?
I know they've been around for a while.
They look great, but the interiors are kinda meh (I think they date back to 2015ish) and they aren't particularly fast (stock 0-60 is in the low 5s). It's certainly a good competitor to the Allroads I was considering originally.

Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
E55 Estate.... Bit older, but get that S/C whine & IIRC those are pretty solid engines.

Still.... E63 S [StillerDoIt.gif]
I love the W211, but...

Originally Posted by TylerT
One thing I've noticed is ... older Merc's (even the E55) has not aged well at all.

I can't see Morgan going from a Golf R with the latest creature comforts to that.
This. The Golf, while just a lowly economy hatchback, is very well appointed. It's hard for me to go backwards from those comforts on a daily.
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
I haven't looked into it all that much but recently realized how cheap they are. You can get a fully decked out CPO 2017 or 2018 with 10k miles on the clock for $40k including a 7 year 100k mile warranty, that's a slam dunk good deal.
I took a cursory glance at them and they seem to be closer to $50k around here for CPO.

Granted, it's a wagon, and nobody wants wagons - so there's probably a decent amount of wiggle room.
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 11:30 AM
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E63S Estate it is.. keep us updated
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
But we like food, and Germany's food is...bad.
Whoa, first time ever hearing this from someone. The food in Germany is great! And so is the beer.
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 12:35 PM
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Whoa, first time ever hearing this from someone. The food in Germany is great! And so is the beer.
Beer, yes. Food, noooooo. Maybe we weren't going to the best places in Munich and Stuttgart, but by the fourth meal there, we couldn't wait to get to Paris (and Paris did not disappoint).

But I guess if you like a lot of pork and potatos, then you'll love it there. I kinda got sick of it though, and the depth of flavor was lacking.
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Majofo
E63S Estate it is.. keep us updated


Buy one in Houston, pay 00TL-P3.2 to deliver, win!
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
Beer, yes. Food, noooooo. Maybe we weren't going to the best places in Munich and Stuttgart, but by the fourth meal there, we couldn't wait to get to Paris (and Paris did not disappoint).

But I guess if you like a lot of pork and potatos, then you'll love it there. I kinda got sick of it though, and the depth of flavor was lacking.
wut???

I had some of the best food in my life in Munich! Granted it wasn't German food, though the roast chicken is pretty good as are the wieners, it was other ethnicities, but gawd dayum it was good. Some awesome pizza paired with an Augustiner and I'm in heaven.
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 01:07 PM
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 01:09 PM
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I found it on a previous site.. it's glorious.

https://www.autoshowfl.com/pre-owned...E-Class/362718

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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 01:12 PM
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German food.. for more than one meal a month.

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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2


Buy one in Houston, pay 00TL-P3.2 to deliver, win!
There's one for sale just north of Houston that I was looking at. It's basically a stripped out model with just the warm weather pack, but there's a weird gap between the hood and the bumper. The carfax is clean, so maybe it's just the angle of the photo, but it's not something I'm willing to fly out to find out about. It would be a fun drive back to VA though; I've got friends in Nashville, so I can stop halfway. But, the R isn't ready to be offloaded yet anyway.

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Hooorreeee sheettttt!!!!

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No pics other than this.. but hot damn
Those have come down in price quite a bit, but I really want a 2018+, mainly for the updated interior, the 4l v8tt and the 9at.

Originally Posted by SamDoe1
wut???

I had some of the best food in my life in Munich! Granted it wasn't German food, though the roast chicken is pretty good as are the wieners, it was other ethnicities, but gawd dayum it was good. Some awesome pizza paired with an Augustiner and I'm in heaven.
When we visit a country, we typically try to stick to the local delicacy - not pizza

Originally Posted by Majofo
German food.. for more than one meal a month.
See, you know what's up.
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
There's one for sale just north of Houston that I was looking at. It's basically a stripped out model with just the warm weather pack, but there's a weird gap between the hood and the bumper. The carfax is clean, so maybe it's just the angle of the photo, but it's not something I'm willing to fly out to find out about. It would be a fun drive back to VA though; I've got friends in Nashville, so I can stop halfway. But, the R isn't ready to be offloaded yet anyway.
I'm just a PM away. Would gladly go check one out for you in the N Houston area.
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
When we visit a country, we typically try to stick to the local delicacy - not pizza
I agree with that but it's different when it's a real pizza place run by a bunch of guys yelling in italian through the kitchen. Not like I went to a dominos lol.

As long as it's European food in Europe, it's all good. Not like I wouldn't have some BBQ outside of Texas or bourbon outside of Kentucky... Also, you'll find some of the best Indian food, outside of India, in Europe and especially the UK.
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 02:42 PM
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I wouldn't say the food in Germany is bad, just kind of boring and not great. French food is absolutely better and I'll fight anybody that says otherwise

It's that dilemma where at least me personally, I feel silly going to a foreign country and eating non-local cuisine. Or like going to any country and eating McDonalds.
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
wut???

I had some of the best food in my life in Munich! Granted it wasn't German food, though the roast chicken is pretty good as are the wieners, it was other ethnicities, but gawd dayum it was good. Some awesome pizza paired with an Augustiner and I'm in heaven.
Yeah as Sam said, there's more than just pork and potatoes. Chicken, veal, fish, beef, duck, awesome vegetables like white asparagus, red cabbage, sauerkraut, and spaetzle... I love a good sauerbraten with a dark beer gravy. I had some amazing fish while on the Rhine and you can just take a butter knife and slide it down the spine and remove all the bones at once. And yes there are a lot of great Italian restaurants in Germany. A customer of ours took us to his favorite in town and it was authentic and delicious. And great breakfasts like a warm croissant with a slice of cheese and tomato. SO GOOD. Ok I'm drooling, enough digression!
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Majofo
Drive one of those European ones across the border that isn't allowed to be imported here and report back
The Audi is a European car that was not imported.
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
There's one for sale just north of Houston that I was looking at. It's basically a stripped out model with just the warm weather pack, but there's a weird gap between the hood and the bumper. The carfax is clean, so maybe it's just the angle of the photo, but it's not something I'm willing to fly out to find out about. It would be a fun drive back to VA though; I've got friends in Nashville, so I can stop halfway. But, the R isn't ready to be offloaded yet anyway.



Those have come down in price quite a bit, but I really want a 2018+, mainly for the updated interior, the 4l v8tt and the 9at.



When we visit a country, we typically try to stick to the local delicacy - not pizza



See, you know what's up.
One picture of a 55k car?

WTF?
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Given the relative equal distribution between BMW, Merc, and Audi...I think, GermanZine would work too.
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Morgan, I just had a crazy idea!

Get a 2021 Civic!


lol
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Morgan, I just had a crazy idea!

Get a 2021 Civic!


lol


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Old Mar 2, 2020 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Majofo
E63S Estate it is.. keep us updated

Imma save my trip to VA until this happens...
And as soon as the Coronavirus symptoms subside....*cough*
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GM interior.
Our interiors are definitely dated by today's standards but far from an eye sore. Take one for a spin if you haven't..
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Old Mar 2, 2020 | 09:52 AM
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Our interiors are definitely dated by today's standards but far from an eye sore. Take one for a spin if you haven't..
I've been in one. I'm sure they're a blast to drive. If I were to get one, it would have to be a manual, and at that price (they're still in the $50-65k range) there's so many other options with nicer interiors.
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Old Mar 2, 2020 | 09:57 AM
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Yea, that low mileage 6MT wagon tax is no joke.
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Yeah there's one with 8k miles and it's listed in the $70k range. There's another at Carmax with 50k miles, and they're asking $51k - which isn't bad tbh if you can get it with a warranty.

But, it's still not exactly what I'm looking for.
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Just get a sedan and save $25k

Use other moneyz for daily.
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