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Old 08-07-2023, 10:00 AM
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https://www.carscoops.com/2023/08/li...s-vector-wx-3/


Those of you who instantly recognized this 1993 Vector Avtech WX-3 Prototype probably played Gran Turismo 2. Its production version, the M12, was a mainstay in the game. Now, you’ve got a chance to own this real-world example that might be better than any of the M12s that made it into customers’ hands.

This car debuted at the 1992 Geneva Motor Show in silver paint. At the time it was a non-running show car. A year later it returned to Geneva with the twin-turbocharged 7.0-liter Rodeck V8 you see sitting in the engine bay here. The auction house says that it’s good for 1,000 horsepower (745 kW), a figure that was unheard of in even the most extreme supercars of 1993.
This car also features just about every single scoop or duct one could want in its Kevlar and carbon fiber body. Inside the cabin, things are even wilder. This supercar has three-abreast seating and possibly the widest bulkheads you’ll ever see. They’re so wide in fact that the shifter sits in the driver’s side bulkhead as opposed to anywhere in the middle of the cabin.

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ccording to the auction, this car benefited from restoration work between 2019 and 2021 that cost nearly $300,000. Despite that, it’s far from perfect as many body panels show damage or even cracks in the surface that still need attention. In fact, because this car isn’t a production version, the folks at BroadArrowAuctions say “one should be mindful of the car’s limitations in modern traffic conditions.”That makes the auction house’s guidance on this car of $1.5-2.0 million seems kind of high. At the same time, owning one of the wildest looking (both inside and out) supercars ever made with a desirable twin-turbo V8 might just be worth it.








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I've seen a couple Vector's at Amelia Concours, from 10' away they look good, from 1' away they look poor in fit/finish
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A 1984 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16 'Nurburgring' with an incredible backstory is being auctioned off at RM Sotheby's St Moritz collection later this month.

In the early '80s, when the 190 series was introduced, Mercedes had an unmatched reputation for quality and durability, but sports sedans weren't exactly its forte. To prove the 2.3-16 was a worthy performance car, the Three-pointed Star hosted a Nurburgring Champions Cup, inviting 20 Formula One icons to the Grand Prix circuit to duke it out in a one-make race.

Among the star drivers were Alain Prost and Ayrton Senna, the latter of whom won the race. Second place went to the late Niki Lauda. The Mercedes seen here is the very car Lauda drove all those years ago on May 12. A total of 21 vehicles, poached from the production line, were specially modified by Mercedes-Benz Sport-Technik.

Revisions included a revised suspension setup, four-piston front brakes, and a new exhaust system. The well-appointed cabin was equipped with many safety features, such as a bolt-in roll cage, Recaro racing seats with six-point harnesses, and a fire extinguisher. The steering wheel was also swapped out for a smaller diameter part.

Lastly, Mercedes Sport-Technik fitted the fleet with wider wheels and Pirelli P7 205/55VR15 tires. Interestingly, the official paperwork submitted to the German National Racing Commission shows the 21 190Es did not race with the engines listed on their factory data cards.

The dramatic race was filled with excitement. With rain pouring down, the rear-wheel drive 2.3-16s raced around the track, using the advanced multi-link rear suspension to its full potential. While Prost had the advantage of being in pole position, Elio de Angelis knocked the rear of his car after just four turns.

Prost's bad luck didn't end there. His long-time on-track nemesis, Senna, managed to steal the lead after an aggressive maneuver forced Prost off the track. Behind the wheel of this Smoke Silver example, Lauda tailed Senna for the final eight laps, with the duo duking it out for first place. Senna would win the race with a 1.58-second lead, cementing his reputation as a versatile driver.

Lauda and Senna's 190Es were the only two vehicles to retain this unique configuration. The rest were returned to factory condition and sold to Mercedes VIPs or dealers as used cars. While Senna's 2.3-16 went on to live in the Mercedes-Benz museum, Lauda's example became the only privately owned example, living with the Iseli Collection for many years. As such, it should command a hefty sale price when it hits the auction block on September 15.

The little sporty Mercedes was powered by a 2.3-liter four-cylinder engine with 16 valves. Renowned engine tuner Cosworth worked its magic on the motor, boosting power to 183 horsepower and 174 lb-ft of torque. 0-62 mph took less than eight seconds, while the top speed was capped at 143 mph.

Sadly, because of emissions legislation, US-spec models produced 167 hp and 162 lb-ft of torque. In 1988, the Cosworth received a more powerful 2.5-liter engine. This later evolved into the iconic Evolution models, of which just 502 examples were made. Mercedes set incredible endurance records to prove how durable the 2.3-16 was, covering more than 31,000 miles over eight days at the Nardo Circuit while driving non-stop.

If you're interested, you'd best have deep pockets, as the Lauda-driven 190E is expected to sell for between $450,000-$550,000. The direct successor to the 190E 2.3-16 is the new C43 AMG, a hotted-up sports sedan based on the C-Class luxury sedan.
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Old 09-05-2023, 02:45 PM
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I've tried to buy 2 of these 2.3-16 in the past, both in this color [Smoke Silver]
Also tried to buy 4 '93 Sportline LE, pretty much the same car, but with the 2.6 I6, only sold in black & different wheels, same 4 seat Recaros but in black/red. More rare too, only 700 built.
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I was gonna bid, but rear leg room is too compromised.
Old 09-05-2023, 04:18 PM
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Sadly, even a non-Lauda 2.3-16 is crazy expensive in great shape. When I was looking they could be had <$10k, $20k for showroom perfect, now I'm sure they're ridiculous.
Sportline LEs were $5-10k, upper range for the really rare with a manual.
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I remember seeing Lauda at the 1974 Canadian GP in MOSPORT and also as an everyday spectator walking the pit lane at the end of the race (try that these days), lifting a rear wheel that weighed nothing at the time and probably even less today. Unfortunately, he spun out some laps from the end at Moss Corner and Fittipaldi took the win. Having driven MOSPORT, it is nice to drive the track he was on.

What I liked about Lauda was he called a Spade a Spade...no BS...period! Very apparent in his life and also while watching the "In Depth Interview with Graham Bensinger" on YouYube. My kind of person as I can't stand BS be it political or at work or with friends. I like it when he told Ferrari "this car drives like shit". Or when he was a GP commentator saying "he drives like an old grandfather".
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I'm the original owner of a 1985 500 Interceptor, mine is in no where near the condition of this very fine 1986 that went for $8.8k this week on BaT
Back in the 80's, 12k redline was pretty high for a street bike.

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Always like the Interceptor/VFR, but have never been on one.
When I was in college there was a guy nearby that I saw regularly with what I think was a 750cc model. Sounded great with whatever he had done to it. Wasn't a CBX F1 straight pipe sound, but still sounded great.
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I'm the original owner of a 1985 500 Interceptor, mine is in no where near the condition of this very fine 1986 that went for $8.8k this week on BaT.
And there is nothing wrong with that if that is what the buyer wanted. If I could buy a 1990 BMW R100 GS PD that was mint before buying my 2016 BMW R1200 GS Adventure, I would have gladly paid $15K for it instead of what I paid for the 2016. I love the simplicity of the machine instead of all the high-tech crap they put on vehicles these days that adds very little to the driving experience while on a motorcycle tour.

I wonder what my 1986 Suzuki RG500 Gamma would go for that was mint when I sold it in 1992 to a new owner in Boca Raton, Florida. The Gamma was the best by far of the Repli-Racers (RG500, RZ500 & NS400R) from the mid-80s. One of the 2 bikes I am sorry I sold, but then the 2-car garage is tight as it is.





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This is for sale near me, that's a cool car.

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$24k doesn't seem terrible, but I don't know the market on these. But, for a 6MT M car with low mileage, seems decent.
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They just dropped the price another $500, UGH. I shouldn't do it......
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Always like the Interceptor/VFR, but have never been on one.
When I was in college there was a guy nearby that I saw regularly with what I think was a 750cc model. Sounded great with whatever he had done to it. Wasn't a CBX F1 straight pipe sound, but still sounded great.
In baby Interceptor is a fun bikes to ride. Even though I'm 6'4" I love riding it as the 16" front wheel makes low speed turning much easier with reduced rotational inertia. Not fast even by 80's standards it's great in low-medium speed backroads. I've ridden VF500F, VF750F, VFR750, VF500M and VF1100S of the 80's V4 Honda's. Fastest bike I ever rode was that 1100 Sabre, ~130MPH. Kinda foolish as I look back upon it today.

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And there is nothing wrong with that if that is what the buyer wanted. If I could buy a 1990 BMW R100 GS PD that was mint before buying my 2016 BMW R1200 GS Adventure, I would have gladly paid $15K for it instead of what I paid for the 2016. I love the simplicity of the machine instead of all the high-tech crap they put on vehicles these days that adds very little to the driving experience while on a motorcycle tour.

I wonder what my 1986 Suzuki RG500 Gamma would go for that was mint when I sold it in 1992 to a new owner in Boca Raton, Florida. The Gamma was the best by far of the Repli-Racers (RG500, RZ500 & NS400R) from the mid-80s. One of the 2 bikes I am sorry I sold, but then the 2-car garage is tight as it is.
Lately some of the early V4 Honda sport bikes have increased in value, supposedly Honda lost money on the V4 motorcycles due to added manufacturing costs of more machining and component count. Always wanted to ride a Gamma.

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Slow bike fast > fast bike slow
Loved the little 650cc Vulcan S I had for a while. 10k rpm, cruiser ergos & could lean it over pretty hard without scraping. Could run it up to 10k without being in felony territory.
Had it up just shy of 130mph once, no drama, just rolled on it in 6th & let it run.

I'd love to have a MC22 CBR250RR. 0-60 is something like 6 sec, but that 20k RPM scream would make it worth it.
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https://jalopnik.com/at-250-000-is-t...eal-1850870025


Today’s Nice Price or No Dice Camaro has the distinction of having been owned by a man who once played golf on the moon. Now, it’s going up for sale, with some of the purchase price going to a worthy cause. Let’s see how worthy the car and its history are at its asking.

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As we all know, it was traditional for NASA’s astronauts to be provided with a shiny
new Corvette to tool around in in-between their stints in outer space. Alan Shepard had one such ’Vette, but apparently, he needed something with a little more room for his and his wife’s golf bags — he really loved his golf — and so he bought this 1995 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 convertible from the same Florida dealer that provided all the astronauts with their Corvettes. Sadly, Admiral Shepard would only get to enjoy the car for a mere three years, having lost his battle with chronic lymphocytic leukemia in July of 1998.

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A new owner will also get a ton of paperwork documenting the car’s provenance and a photo of the Admiral and his wife with the car authorized by the Shepard family to be included with the sale. The car wears its original California plates and a Pebble Beach Golf Links license plate frame, although the
dealer (and apparently the car) is located in Waller, Texas. It’s all offered for the sum of $250,000. Or at least, it soon will be.

Later this year & with support from the Shepard family, it will be offered for sale for $250k & a percentage of the proceeds going towards The Astronaut Scholarship Foundation which Admiral Shepard founded with the other original Mercury 7 Astronauts.
According to the dealer presently possessing the car, Alan Shepard’s 1968 Corvette sold in 2022 for $308,000 at auction. That’s arguably a more valuable car in today’s market, but all things taken into account, could this Camaro Z28 rightfully bring $250K for its cause?




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I’m trying to figure out how that can be a typo, but doesn’t seem to be.

great car for zombie apocalypse. Zombies will easily assume no brains will be found in that car.
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Not even a TRD Pro, just an ORP. Gotta be someone messed up the listing. Nearly double MSRP, for a [other than the color] fairly normal looking T4R

Edit: Nope, it's on the dealer website for that price too
Also supposed to have a TRD Bronze wheel pkg, but those sure look black to me.

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I have to say the color looks better now, I was on a small mobile device when I posted the above and with the glare it looked very bad.
wouldn’t be my first color choice but again not as bad as it looked to me earlier.

maybe they are super early on an April fools joke?
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A collection of 56 Porsches all painted white and amassed by a single owner is now coming up for auction. And – yes, you’re right – almost all of them are out of bounds for mere mortals.

Welcome then, to a snow-white Porsche wonderland filled with millions of dollars worth of exotica. The collection is topped off by what auctioneer RM Sotheby’s calls ‘the crown jewel’ of the entire lot – a ‘Grand Prix’ white Porsche 918 Spyder from 2015.

To get a measure of just how fastidious the single owner was about their Porsches, this particular car features $96k worth of bespoke tailoring. Oh, and the Weissach pack. RM reckons it’ll go for up to $3m.

Another delight comes in the form of another Grand Prix white 911 Carrera RS 2.7 Touring from 1973, a rather glorious matching-numbers cars that’s been in single ownership for the best part of 20 years. Yours for around $1.2m.

Another ’73 Carrera RS 2.7 Lightweight joins the fray ($2m), along with a 1993 911 Carrera RSR 3.8 ($2.5m), and a 911 Turbo S X85 ‘flat nose’, one of just 39 built for the US in 1994. This car – just one of two Grand Prix white cars, is estimated to go for around $2m.

Obviously there are more, including a pair of Porsche tractors, and an entire workshop’s worth of Porsche memorabilia: we’re talking toy cars, skis, furniture, heck, even a teddy bear and a hard hat. Even the auction location is described as a ‘sanctuary’: a “bright, expansive and meticulously crafted” space with high ceilings and reflective floors. Of course it'd look clinical.

“These vehicles, which show high originality and remarkably low mileage, are among the most sought-after Porsche sports cars in the current market,” said RM Sotheby’s global head of auctions, Gord Duff.

The cheapest one there? A 944 S2 Cabrio from 1990 estimated to go for up to $60k. Bargain!











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When I was a young Soldier in Germany (early 1990's) I got to go to the Porsche factory and the tiny museum. It was quite cool, all those race cars and cars I could never fathom of affording. Now they have a monstrous, modern museum that is beautiful but still has all the great cars.
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Man, I saw that Porsche thing, I wonder what happened there, I’m assuming collector passed away and family doesn’t share the passion just want the $.

Maybe it’s a different collection, but I think I saw this collection before and I think that 918 is the only one that has silver brake calipers. All the others have the Acid green colors for the hybrid powertrains. But for this collector Porsche made an exception.
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Somebody buy this time capsule!

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^^^^^ Naaah, that car was a POS for me-4 transmissions. Besides, I always hated the fact from the back it looked as uninspiring as a Buick.
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If it was a 6MT, I'd buy it in a heart beat.
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R34 Skyline for sale at a dealer in Japan. The price at current exchange rates, is about $470K... Ouch.

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What has the world cone too... Beautiful spec, but not at almost half a mil.
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What has the world cone too... Beautiful spec, but not at almost half a mil.
It's insane. So over there, a lightly used MB is very reasonable if not cheap. But the Skyline and Sylvia are commanding ridiculous prices. Most of the skylines are $100K or more. At that price I'll go get an NSX or something modern.
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People buying cars with their small heads instead of the bigger one.
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People buying cars with their small heads instead of the bigger one.
Speaking of which, did you happen to catch the RM Sotheby's auction in Vegas, during F1 weekend (on YouTube)? Lewis Hamilton's W04 hammered at $17.1M! You could tell that when it got down to the last two bidders that it was a penis-measuring contest. And all for a car that probably doesn't have an engine any longer. At best, it does, and you still can't drive it. That's astronomical money for garage art.
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Ex–Michael Jordan 1991 BMW 850i 6-Speed

Would love to drive it, but would never wanna own it.


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Would love to drive it, but would never wanna own it.
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Why not? Maintenance?

Over 30 years old. Great stying never ages and it is a manual. I looked at them but all were automatics.
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Why not? Maintenance?

Over 30 years old. Great stying never ages and it is a manual. I looked at them but all were automatics.
Electrical and electronic problems that never seem to end. Parts are also difficult to find.
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Ugh, love that ol' Illinois plate. Very nice ride.
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Old 01-13-2024, 02:34 PM
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Stay Out Of the Left Lane
 
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Very nice!!! Me likey
Old 01-13-2024, 03:12 PM
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Wow!! I never saw one in person.
Also, fewer M badges than the X7 with the V8 lol..


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