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Old 05-19-2021, 09:55 AM
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Formula 1 cars aren't something that come up for sale every day. Sales of race-winning cars are even rarer, with many teams eager to hang on to the machines that earned their hard-won victories It's a remarkable day, then, when Lewis Hamilton's race-winning 2010 McLaren-Mercedes MP4-25A is coming up for auction at RM Sotheby's.

The car is listed with a healthy $5-7 million price estimate. This puts it in the ballpark of the most expensive modern Formula 1 car ever—Michael Schumacher's Monaco-winning Ferrari F2001, which sold for $7,504,000 back in 2017. The F2002 in which Schumacher claimed his fifth world championship at the 2002 French Grand Prix later went on to fetch $6,643,750 in 2019. With Hamilton matching the dominant German driver's tally of seven Formula 1 World Championships, there's a definite chance that the car could set a new price record for contemporary Formula 1 sales.

The auction will take place on July 17 at the Silverstone Grand Prix, just prior to the start of Formula 1's first ever qualifying sprint race. Adding a twist to the sale, the car will be driven around the Silverstone circuit live during the auction at speeds exceeding 150 mph. It's a unique concept, one which will let potential bidders see the car in action once more prior to purchase. Of course, it could also prove to be a rare event in which the car under the hammer is destroyed in a crash during the very auction which intends to sell it. The auction house has not stated precisely who will be behind the wheel, but we'd assume they've placed their trust in a safe pair of hands. Due to COVID restrictions, the driver will be someone outside the usual Formula 1 bubble, ruling out Hamilton himself and personalities like Martin Brundle from stepping up to the plate.

The auction is particularly notable for being the first time one of Lewis Hamilton's race-winning cars has been publicly offered for sale. Other Hamilton race-winning cars may have been sold, such as the MP4-22/5A from his 2007 debut season—with the chassis that won at Hungary and Japan reportedly in private hands. That car can be seen lapping at Silverstone on YouTube, though its exact provenance remains unconfirmed. Hamilton's Mercedes AMG W04 from 2013 was also sold in years past, though the chassis that Hamilton drove to victory in Hungary that year was retired late in the season due to structural issues and likely wasn't the actual car sold in 2018.The auction will be watched with interest, both with regards to a potential record breaking sales price and to see where the car actually ends up. Hopefully, the new owner takes it out to stretch its legs once in a while with the help of McLaren's Heritage department.

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LH doesn't seem to have the allure of MS, and it's not a Ferrari. Not sure I see this one going for record breaking numbers
But, it is a running/driving (assuming it's being sold in running spec) car, so more appealing than a bare chassis.

Much better looking than the mustachio MP4-22 & 23
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It could easily go for those numbers. Lewis is a 7-time champ right up there with Michael's name in terms of Formula 1 & automotive culture; only the Tifosi throw a tantrum and try to argue as if Michael wasn't also wrapped up in complaints of making the sport boring or claims the FIA/Ferrari cater to him.

Not being a Ferrari isn't going to matter in this market considering McLaren's name is just as synonymous in Formula 1.
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No arguments on those points.
I just don't see a non WDC/WCC car pulling huge $$ just for being a LH car. I doubt a MS Mercedes W02 or W03 would pull nearly as much as a MS Ferrari.
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You're right, those Mercedes' only value comes with Michael's name attached. I think the only W03 that would come close to his Ferraris or even Benettons is the car he drove in Brazil that concluded his F1 career.

I guess it's ultimately hard to pin point these values beyond knowing if the car is in full running order since they not only run a specific "model" for each season, but that model has different chassis on hand for each driver so 1 car is probably not fully responsible for a championship. This car being a running example McLaren is good enough to value at $5m, and I'm betting that it being a GP-winning car associated with a 7-time WDC (even if the car contributed nothing to a WDC/WCC as you noted) is where they likely believe the remaining $2m evaluation could be reached. McLaren also says this is MP4-25A Chassis #01 to add a bit more flavor, but they also note the number of MP4-25As built is closely guarded.

If I'm honest, I think this sale is also being done for McLaren to raise some funds. GP-winning car, but in a season that is still forgettable for Lewis & McLaren. They likely won't miss it and it'll probably just sit under their care in the same place its been for the last decade under someone else' wallet.

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Fair points. We'll how much/if it sells come Silverstone GP.
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The 2012 Lexus LFA was a high-water mark for Toyota's luxury brand. The car never got a direct successor, but a practically untouched example with less than 500 miles is scheduled to cross the block at RM Sotheby's Amelia Island auction on May 22.

Finished in Steel Gray, this car isn't as distinctive as the brown LFA that came up for sale earlier this year, but it's still quite rare. Number 430 of 500 cars built, it's one of only 11 finished in this particular hue, according to the listing.

The LFA was meant as a halo car for Lexus, giving the brand more prestige and using some of parent Toyota's Formula One experience to do it. It's powered by a 5.2-liter V-10 that makes 552 hp and 334 lb-ft of torque, with a 9,000-rpm redline. The engine and the LFA's carbon-fiber body still seem modern today, but the 6-speed single-clutch automated manual transmission gives away the car's age.

Production of the LFA ended in December 2012, and the last car reached the U.S. in February 2013. The listing claims Lexus imported approximately 190 cars to the U.S., although other sources say 178 cars were imported.

Either way, the LFA was a slow seller. Five new, unregistered cars remained up for grabs as of January 2020 likely due to the outlandish $375,000 starting price. Some dealerships held onto their LFAs as display pieces to drive showroom traffic.

It's unclear if this LFA will meet its pre-auction estimate of $425,000 to $500,000, which is a significant increase over the $388,300 the owner originally paid for it. However, that's still a lot less than the aforementioned brown LFA, which was listed for sale through an exotic-car dealership earlier this year with a $680,000 asking price.

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$425,000 is a pretty fair bottom est. Excluding 1 example, the last few have sold in the low-mid $400K the last 2-3 years.

The brown LFA that article mentions is also super-old. That was a car put up for sale in UAE back in 2016. The dealer that had it is long-gone likely as a result of its own failure; only had 6 cars ever listed, 3 of them were constantly advertised for a year including the LFA.
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If you're anything like us, it's fair to assume you spend at least a little bit of your spare time scouring the web for cool cars up for sale. In our perusing today we've come across a 1989 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.5-16 Evolution on Bring a Trailer, a homologation special built to directly compete with the E30 BMW M3 Sport Evolution for touring-car supremacy. In total, only 502 of the 190E Evo were produced, making them an extremely hot commodity. So far—with the auction ending on May 26—bidding is still at $31,000.

Powered by a longitudinally mounted Cosworth-built 2.5-liter inline-four,
the Evolution sends a respectable 202 horsepower to the rear wheels via a five-speed dogleg manual transmission and limited-slip differential; it also revs to a healthy 7200 rpm. The Evolution also featured a self-leveling suspension with a selector switch that would lower the car for track use. Apart from its race-built engine and trick suspension, the Evolution sported a larger wing, flared fenders, and revised front and rear fascias to add to both its looks and downforce.

In a gorgeous hue of blue-black metallic, the 190E Evolution essentially looks like the Batmobile had a love affair with a DTM touring car, and who wouldn't want that? Even the 16-inch alloy wheels suit the car's looks perfectly. Move inside and appreciate the bolstered black leather seats, tartan cloth inserts on the seats and door panels, and wood surrounding the shifter. Maybe it’s just us, but looking at this interior makes us wish manufacturers would be a bit more adventurous with interior design these days. With around 43,000 miles on the clock and a slew of parts replaced recently, including an overhaul of the self-leveling suspension, we're sure the current bid of $31,000 won't hold for long.



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Old 05-24-2021, 10:15 AM
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$31k isn't terrible, compared to what an EVO II would bring.
Those Recaros are comfy, too.
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Your LFA did incredible! $720,000 including buyer's premium!
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May as well be a Koenigsegg at that price
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e28 ... my favorite M5 ....

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Damn, a few more months and I would be jumping on that car.
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The E39 is probably my favorite 5er, always liked the E34 too.
I'd guess an E34 M5 might be the cheapest of the 5ers?
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
The E39 is probably my favorite 5er, always liked the E34 too.
I'd guess an E34 M5 might be the cheapest of the 5ers?
Yeah, with my new job I've been getting the itch for an M5; I used to have an E39 530i SP and loved that car, from a handling perspective, the 540i and M5 versions felt far less lively (maybe because of the different steering). For me, the E28 has an ever so light edge over the E39; however, I never warmed up to the E34 so while the most affordable these days, it is my least favorite of the three.
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Currently at: $22,222

This 1990 Corvette ZR-1 is finished in Bright Red over Flame Red leather and powered by a 5.7-liter LT5 V8 paired with a six-speed manual transmission. Equipment includes the Performance Handling Package, FX3 Selective Ride suspension, aftermarket 17″ wheels, four-wheel disc brakes, an aftermarket exhaust system, removable roof panels, power-adjustable sport seats, air conditioning, cruise control, and a Delco Bose combined CD and cassette stereo. The car was first registered in New York and spent time in New Jersey before it was acquired by the selling dealer in March 2021. This ZR-1 has 7k miles and is offered with a window sticker, manufacturer’s literature, a clean Carfax report, and a clean Florida title.




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Currently at $45k

This 1970 Mercedes-Benz 280SL was sold new by Slavich Brothers Mercedes-Benz in Fresno, California, and was acquired by the current owner in 1983. The car is finished in Red over a black interior and is powered by a 2.8-liter M130 inline-six paired with a four-speed automatic transmission. Equipment includes a body-color “Pagoda” hardtop, a black soft top, 14″ wheels, Frigiking air conditioning, and a Becker Grand Prix radio with an Olympia cassette player. Service in anticipation of the sale consisted of rebuilding the steering box and replacing the brake booster, transmission cooler lines, suspension components, mounts for the engine, transmission, and rear differential, and more as detailed below. The car was previously offered on BaT in March 2021 and withdrawn due to a mechanical problem. The selling dealer reports that the ignition system ballast resistors were subsequently replaced, and this W113 SL is now offered on dealer consignment with recent service records, owner’s manuals and literature, a copy of the data card, a tool kit, and a clean California title.




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Had a 280SL almost identical to this one, for about a month, in college.
Grandfather's Mercedes mechanic loaned it to us while his 560SEC was in the shop. The one we had was a 4MT, though. We were advised: "It's a sports car, drive it that way"
Quite a fun little roadster.
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Sold for US$97k ....
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That seems more in line for an Evo.
Makes me imagine that a clean Evo II would be easily into the upper $100-200k mark.
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1970 "Le Mans" Movie Porsche 917K

Is going up for sale at Sotheby’s, August 13-14 in Monterey, CA. I saw estimates (not in this article) of $16-18.5M for this vehicle.




1970 PORSCHE 917 K

| Monterey, California

13 - 14 August 2021

Chassis No.
917-031/026
  • The Mike Hailwood/David Hobbs JW Automotive Gulf Racing 1970 Le Mans entry
  • Later the Ernst Kraus/Jürgen Barth 1971-1973 European Interserie contender
  • Features heavily in the race footage used by Solar Productions in Steve McQueen’s seminal racing film Le Mans,
  • Exceptional provenance with only three, long term owners since 1974
Please note that this lot is sold on a Bill of Sale.Please check back soon as our dedicated cataloguing team is preparing the description for this lot.

To any automotive or motorsport enthusiast, the Porsche 917 needs no introduction, and it is the car’s early 917K coupe form, that truly ignites the passions of these enthusiasts most strongly. Commonly regarded as ‘The World’s Greatest Sports Car’, boasting a near-perfect flat-12 cylinder, air-cooled engine that could propel the car to speeds in excess of 230 mph, the Porsche 917 set a standard for design, engineering, and sheer performance that took endurance sports car design to new levels and which proved dominant over three incredible seasons of World Championship racing.

Chassis ‘026’ was constructed as one of the three 1970 24 Hours of Le Mans race entries of the JW Automotive Engineering / Gulf Racing team, and was distinctive for having a different version of the Gulf livery, as its entire roof was sprayed orange down to the beltline, in contrast to the orange centerline stripe of its sister cars. Carrying race number ‘22’, its driver pairing was David Hobbs and multiple World Champion motorcycle star, Mike Hailwood. In difficult, wet conditions, the car completed 49 laps, running as high as 3rd overall at one point, but on the 50th lap Hailwood aquaplaned and crashed, retiring the car for the duration of the race.

Following Le Mans, the chassis was repaired by the factory and subsequently re-numbered ‘031’, being rebodied as a Porsche 917 Spyder with lightweight open bodywork intended to contest the 1972 European InterSerie Championship, for Group 7 sports racing cars.

In this form the car contested the 1971-1972 European race series by privateer Ernst Kraus, making its debut on April 3 that year in the 300 km Goodyear PokalRennen at the Nürburgring in Germany. Kraus raced the car extensively throughout 1972 before it was acquired by Georg Loos and his Gelo Racing Team. During the 1973 InterSerie Championship it continued to perform well against strong competition, achieving several notable results. Following its retirement from competitive racing in 1974, it joined the prestigious Chandon Collection where it remained until 1988. The 917K was then acquired by noted enthusiast and collector Mike Amalfitano with whom it remained until passing into the current owner’s care.

The current gentleman owner acquired the Porsche in Spyder form over a decade ago and has since fully restored the car, returning it to its original and seminal, Gulf-liveried Le Mans coupe specification. The restoration was executed without regard to cost and the results are impressive in every sensory regard, from the stunning design and livery to the unmistakable symphony of the boxer-engined 12 cylinder at full revs. Making a sound unlike any other, the Porsche 917K is ‘on the button’, maintained as if a return to the 24 Hours of Le Mans is its next event. The McQueen ‘Le Mans Legend’ 917K represents a singular opportunity to acquire not just an icon, but the archetypal example of the car widely regarded as ‘the greatest sports racing car ever’.

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Good estimate. Gooding & Co sold a 917K around 4 years ago that was also used in LeMans for $14M.
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That Corvette looks like a team of 20 people were rage-murdered in the interior 10 seconds before the picture was taken.
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Between 1968 and 1971, Lamborghini made only 338 examples of its now-legendary Miura. Originally equipped with a roaring transverse-mounted 350-hp V12 and five-speed gearbox as a P400 in 1966, the 1968 S version was tuned for 20 more horsepower for an even 370.

A very fine specimen of a 1968 Miura P400 S with bodywork by famed coachbuilder Nuccio Bertone is prepped and ready for the Gooding & Company auction block starting on June 11. It's expected to bring down the hammer at a million dollars, and I don't doubt this collector's gem will generate that number and then some.
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Originally Posted by nanxun
e28 ... my favorite M5 ....

1988 BMW M5

A great car but in reality not so much any more, my Mazda CX-9 isn't far off this vehicle's numbers:
  • Engine 3.5-liter, 24-valve inline-six, 256 hp, 243 lb-ft.
  • Transmission five-speed manual.
  • Weight 3420 lb.
  • 0–60 mph 6.7 seconds.
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That Corvette looks like a team of 20 people were rage-murdered in the interior 10 seconds before the picture was taken.
"rage murdered"
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Million bucks is a bit conservative for a Miura S, but not totally unrealistic. Used exotic market is nuts though, could end up bringing in a lot more.
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Miuras in general seem to have trended up quite a bit. Same for the Countach.
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Originally Posted by Chief F1 Fan
A great car but in reality not so much any more, my Mazda CX-9 isn't far off this vehicle's numbers:
  • Engine 3.5-liter, 24-valve inline-six, 256 hp, 243 lb-ft.
  • Transmission five-speed manual.
  • Weight 3420 lb.
  • 0–60 mph 6.7 seconds.
I'm sorry but, this is looking at older cars all wrong ...

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I'm sorry but, this is looking at older cars all wrong ...
I understand Chief’s point, but would still prefer driving that e28 M5 over a 2021 CX9 ... but that’s just me.
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i understand chief’s point, but would still prefer driving that e28 m5 over a 2021 cx9 ... But that’s just me.
^^^This!
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I get Chief's point too, but I just don't think you can pull a car like that out of context.

The way I look at the E28 M5 is the fact it's a hand built Bavarian beast that paved the way for super sedans for decades to come.

What will the CX9 do for us in decades to come?

After watching Chris Harris's videos on his E28 M5 .. it makes me want to drive one and I don't care how slow it is
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Originally Posted by TylerT
I get Chief's point too, but I just don't think you can pull a car like that out of context.

The way I look at the E28 M5 is the fact it's a hand built Bavarian beast that paved the way for super sedans for decades to come.

What will the CX9 do for us in decades to come?

After watching Chris Harris's videos on his E28 M5 .. it makes me want to drive one and I don't care how slow it is
Here's another way to look at it; if you pull up to the valet parking portico for a posh event at your local country club in a new CX-9; will it get even a second look? Now do the same thing in a cherry E28 M5.

Yet another way of looking at it; driving my brother's CX-9 is a serious ho-hum experience; driving pretty much any E28 with an "i" at the end of the number (as opposed to an "e") is a delightfully visceral experience, with the M5 being the best of the bunch.
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I agree with all of the "but if" comments most definitely. If I didn't, classic cars would mean zero to me and they never will as I LOVE cars. The M5 show in OP's post is one of my favorites too, I remember staring at the front end of its air dam laden body and loving it. A few years ago, A Ferrari 328 was being raffled off and its numbers were less than my CX9. Would I want my SUV over the Ferrari? Never in a bazillion years. It just goes to show how much manufacturers have advanced over the years
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Because this is Acurazine and we all love the NSX, there's a S Zero on the market for $400K+.

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I need to return my pants to the pants store

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...kyline-gt-r-3/






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I would've never expected to see a Venturi go up on BaT, but that Skyline is definitely something else. I've only skimmed through the listing, but looks like it's completely stock & up-to-date on service. 40K miles is really reasonable as well; used but Sunday driver maybe.

Guessing just shy of $400K when it's done.


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