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#1242
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#1243
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how did I miss this... Tamron is developing a 150-600 lens. whatttt..
http://www.tamron-usa.com/news/35mm/...A011_Nov13.asp
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http://www.tamron-usa.com/news/35mm/...A011_Nov13.asp
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(2) VC (Vibration Compensation) is Tamron's proprietary image stabilization mechanism.
</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2">November 7, 2013, Commack, N.Y. - Tamron Co., Ltd. (President & CEO: Morio Ono), a leading manufacturer of precision optics, has announced the development of an innovative ultra-telephoto zoom lens with a focal length range of 150mm to 600mm for full-frame and APS-C format DSLR cameras. The lens sample will be on display in the Tamron booth at the Salon de la Photo 2013 that will be held from November 7-11 in Paris, France. Pricing and delivery information are not available at this time.
Tamron’s current 200-500mm (Model A08) is a popular, compact, easy-to-use ultra-telephoto zoom lens, but customers have shown great interest in having a lens that provides an even greater focal length range.
This all-new ultra-telephoto zoom lens features VC (Vibration Compensation) image stabilization, speedy, precise USD (Ultrasonic Silent Drive)(3), state-of-the-art eBAND (Extended Bandwidth & Angular-Dependency) Coating, which significantly reduces the unwanted light reflections that cause flare and ghosting, and a sophisticated and stylish new external finish.
Its 4x ultra-telephoto zoom capabilities, with a focal length range from 150mm to 600mm, enhance the creative potential of telephoto photography, a captivating feature for all photographers, particularly nature, wildlife, and sports shooters.
Product Highlights
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</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Model
</td> <td>A011
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Focal Length
</td> <td>150-600mm
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Maximum Aperture
</td> <td>F/5-6.3
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Angle of view (diagonal)
</td> <td>16°25’ - 4°8’ (for full frame format)
10°38’ - 2°40’ (for APS-C format)
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Lens Construction
</td> <td>20 elements in 13 groups
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Minimum Focus Distance
</td> <td>106.3 in (2.7m)
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Maximum Magnification Ratio
</td> <td>1:5
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Filter Size
</td> <td>Ø95mm
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Maximum Diameter
</td> <td>Ø105.6mm
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Length (5)
</td> <td>10.1 in (257.8mm)
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Weight
</td> <td>68.8 oz (1,951 g)
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>No. of Diaphragm Blades
</td> <td>9 (circular diaphragm) (6)
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Minimum Aperture
</td> <td>F/32-40
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Standard Accessories
</td> <td>Lens hood, detachable tripod mount
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Compatible Mounts
</td> <td>Canon, Nikon, Sony(7)
</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2">Specifications, appearance, functionality, etc. may be changed without prior notice.
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(4) Length and weight are based on figures for the Nikon-mount lens.
(5) Length is the distance between the front tip of the lens and the mount face.
(6) This circular diaphragm retains a nearly circular shape even when taken at two stops down from its maximum aperture.
(7) The Sony mount does not include VC, since Sony digital SLR bodies include built-in image
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TAMRON ANNOUNCES THE DEVELOPMENT OF A REVOLUTIONARY NEW ULTRA-TELEPHOTO ZOOM LENS FOR FULL-FRAME AND APS-C FORMAT DSLR CAMERAS: SP 150-600MM F/5-6.3 DI VC USD (MODEL A011)
Cutting-edge eBAND Coating(1) and three LD (Low Dispersion) glass elements deliver superior imaging performance, while the latest built-in VC (Vibration Compensation)(2) system broadens users’ horizons in achieving sharper handheld photographs
(1) The eBAND (Extended Bandwidth & Angular-Dependency) Coating is a new nanotechnology-based coating technique developed by Tamron to reduce unwanted reflection.(2) VC (Vibration Compensation) is Tamron's proprietary image stabilization mechanism.
</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2">November 7, 2013, Commack, N.Y. - Tamron Co., Ltd. (President & CEO: Morio Ono), a leading manufacturer of precision optics, has announced the development of an innovative ultra-telephoto zoom lens with a focal length range of 150mm to 600mm for full-frame and APS-C format DSLR cameras. The lens sample will be on display in the Tamron booth at the Salon de la Photo 2013 that will be held from November 7-11 in Paris, France. Pricing and delivery information are not available at this time.
Tamron’s current 200-500mm (Model A08) is a popular, compact, easy-to-use ultra-telephoto zoom lens, but customers have shown great interest in having a lens that provides an even greater focal length range.
This all-new ultra-telephoto zoom lens features VC (Vibration Compensation) image stabilization, speedy, precise USD (Ultrasonic Silent Drive)(3), state-of-the-art eBAND (Extended Bandwidth & Angular-Dependency) Coating, which significantly reduces the unwanted light reflections that cause flare and ghosting, and a sophisticated and stylish new external finish.
Its 4x ultra-telephoto zoom capabilities, with a focal length range from 150mm to 600mm, enhance the creative potential of telephoto photography, a captivating feature for all photographers, particularly nature, wildlife, and sports shooters.
Product Highlights
- 4x ultra-telephoto zoom lens with a focal length range of 150mm to 600mm
The focal length range of this lens was extended by 50mm on the wide-angle side and 100mm on the telephoto side compared to the existing model A08, making it possible to take even more striking photographs of birds, wildlife, sports, and other distant subjects. Mounted on APS-C DSLR cameras, it has a stunning near1000mm telephoto equivalent focal length range of 233mm to 930mm. - World class image quality
Employing 20 elements in 13 groups and boasting an advanced optical design, the lens delivers a superior balance of resolution and contrast for sharp, clear images. The front group contains three LD (Low Dispersion) glass elements (two in the first group, one in the third) for enhanced optical correction effectiveness, enabling the lens to thoroughly compensate for on-axis aberrations at the telephoto end. The lens also adopts eBAND Coating, developed from state-of-the-art coating technologies, and conventional BBAR (Broad-Band Anti-Reflection) Coating to greatly suppress ghosting and flare even when shooting under adverse lighting conditions.
- Achieves a 600mm focal length in a compact easy-to-handle package
Ingenious optical design features minimize the movement of lens groups within the lens when zooming. This reduces the amount of barrel extension needed to cover the complete focusing range, making the entire lens more compact.
- Beautiful background blur effects
Adopting a 9 blade circular diaphragm enables users to create beautiful background blur effects (Bokeh), which provide even greater potential for creative expression. This circular diaphragm retains a nearly circular shape even at two stops down from its maximum aperture.
- VC (Vibration Compensation) mechanism creates greater opportunities for sharper handheld photography
Tamron’s proprietary VC (Vibration Compensation) image stabilization system uses a three-coil system, delivering significantly sharper images and creating greater opportunities for handheld ultra-telephoto photography.
- Comfortable autofocus
Tamron’s new SP 150-600mm F/5-6.3 Di VC USD features a USD (Ultrasonic Silent Drive) ultrasonic motor drive for swift and accurate AF response, it delivers high torque, very fast response times, and very low noise. The full-time manual focus mechanism allows users to make fine manual focus adjustments at any time even when AF is engaged.
- New elegant, high-class external finish
Tamron has upgraded the cosmetic design and finish of this lens to create a more sophisticated, high-end look in keeping with the demands of discerning full-frame DSLR users. Employing a sophisticated linear pattern rubber grip on the zoom and focus rings and an attractive and stylish tungsten silver brand ring, this newly designed model accentuates its visceral presence with understated elegance and class.
- Easy-to-use tripod mount
The tripod mount has been completely redesigned to provide superior stability, durability, ease of use, and portability.
- Comes with "SILKYPIX Developer Studio for Tamron", RAW image development processing software for Tamron’s SP lenses
The SILKYPIX Developer Studio software can develop high-quality images from RAW data, incorporating adjustments that can express the personal style and taste of the photographer. These include white balance, color, sharpness, and the tonal curves recorded by digital cameras. The SILKYPIX Developer Studio for Tamron provides a range of functions, in addition to the basic adjustment capabilities, such as correcting aberrations (chromatic aberrations of magnification, distortion, peripheral light fall-off), based on the optical data. Used in tandem with Tamron’s SP series lenses - renowned for their high-depiction capability - this advanced technology efficiently produces images that meet photographers’ most exacting demands.
<table width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td width="41%">Specifications(4)
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</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Model
</td> <td>A011
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Focal Length
</td> <td>150-600mm
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Maximum Aperture
</td> <td>F/5-6.3
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Angle of view (diagonal)
</td> <td>16°25’ - 4°8’ (for full frame format)
10°38’ - 2°40’ (for APS-C format)
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Lens Construction
</td> <td>20 elements in 13 groups
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Minimum Focus Distance
</td> <td>106.3 in (2.7m)
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Maximum Magnification Ratio
</td> <td>1:5
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Filter Size
</td> <td>Ø95mm
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Maximum Diameter
</td> <td>Ø105.6mm
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Length (5)
</td> <td>10.1 in (257.8mm)
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Weight
</td> <td>68.8 oz (1,951 g)
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>No. of Diaphragm Blades
</td> <td>9 (circular diaphragm) (6)
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Minimum Aperture
</td> <td>F/32-40
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Standard Accessories
</td> <td>Lens hood, detachable tripod mount
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Compatible Mounts
</td> <td>Canon, Nikon, Sony(7)
</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2">Specifications, appearance, functionality, etc. may be changed without prior notice.
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(4) Length and weight are based on figures for the Nikon-mount lens.
(5) Length is the distance between the front tip of the lens and the mount face.
(6) This circular diaphragm retains a nearly circular shape even when taken at two stops down from its maximum aperture.
(7) The Sony mount does not include VC, since Sony digital SLR bodies include built-in image
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Meh only 4x zoom
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not sure when they announced, but Rokinon's T/S is out.
http://www.buydig.com/shop/product.a...TSL24MC&ref=cj
http://www.buydig.com/shop/product.a...TSL24MC&ref=cj
Rokinon TSL24M-C 24mm F3.5 Tilt Shift Lens for Canon
Catalog# ROTSL24MC | Mfg Part# TSL24M-C
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Condition: Brand new, USA Warranty24mm focal length; maximum aperture f/3.5. Angle of view: 83.5 degrees on full frame and 59.9 degrees on APS-C. Construction: 16 elements in 11 groups with 2 aspherical lenses.
Our Price: $999.00
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Rokinon's long awaited 24mm f3.5 Tilt/Shift lens is finally here! You can easily photograph your favorite architectural landmarks, or really tall friends, with precision and without the vertical perspective you would get with normal lenses. This manual focus lens features a 24mm fixed focal length with an aperture range of f/3.5-22. This lens is suitable primarily for full-frame cameras but will work just as well with an APS-C crop sensor. The lens is expertly constructed using 16 optical elements in 11 groups with 2 aspherical lenses. Thanks to Rokinon, it is now affordable to all users. Order yours up today! Available in Canon, Nikon and Sony Alpha mounts.
Catalog# ROTSL24MC | Mfg Part# TSL24M-C
In Stock
Same Day Shipping on Orders Placed
Mon-Thurs by 4PM EST and Fri by 12PM EST
Condition: Brand new, USA Warranty24mm focal length; maximum aperture f/3.5. Angle of view: 83.5 degrees on full frame and 59.9 degrees on APS-C. Construction: 16 elements in 11 groups with 2 aspherical lenses.
Our Price: $999.00
Free Shipping (USA)
Rokinon's long awaited 24mm f3.5 Tilt/Shift lens is finally here! You can easily photograph your favorite architectural landmarks, or really tall friends, with precision and without the vertical perspective you would get with normal lenses. This manual focus lens features a 24mm fixed focal length with an aperture range of f/3.5-22. This lens is suitable primarily for full-frame cameras but will work just as well with an APS-C crop sensor. The lens is expertly constructed using 16 optical elements in 11 groups with 2 aspherical lenses. Thanks to Rokinon, it is now affordable to all users. Order yours up today! Available in Canon, Nikon and Sony Alpha mounts.
#1246
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It's been out for about a year now. It's probably my next lens
#1247
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Anyone on here have the Canon 100mm F/2.8L Macro IS?
Considering buying one..
Considering buying one..
#1248
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I'd like to hear your recommendations regarding a lens rental. I'm looking for something with a little more reach than my 70-300 f/4-5.6 IS. Note: this will go on a 70D.
There is at least one Kestrel that lives nearby and I would like to try to get some photos of him/her. As well as any other creature that may wander into my shots.
The two that I am looking at are the 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS or the 400 f/5.6L.
I am leaning towards the 100-400 due to its image stabilization and because it is on my "wish list".
My next actual purchase will be one of the following: Canon 35 f/2 IS or 85 f/1.8 or the Sigma 30 f/1.4.
There is at least one Kestrel that lives nearby and I would like to try to get some photos of him/her. As well as any other creature that may wander into my shots.
The two that I am looking at are the 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS or the 400 f/5.6L.
I am leaning towards the 100-400 due to its image stabilization and because it is on my "wish list".
My next actual purchase will be one of the following: Canon 35 f/2 IS or 85 f/1.8 or the Sigma 30 f/1.4.
#1249
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Anyone have the canon 50mm 1.4? Its only 300 bucks. Might have to get one at that price point
#1251
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What's confusing to me is canons pricing, the 1.4 is $300 and the 1.2 is like $1600 I think lol wtf
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I think the larger element cost more to manufacture (and perhaps assemble). If, suppose, they were to make the f1.2 more affordable, it would most likely take away a lot of sales of the f1.4, which is most likely have a higher profit margin. Canon would rather sell more of the f1.4 than lowering the price of the f1.2 and sell more of those and less of the f1.4...
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To those who make a living off of photography, its kinda works out as the investment for good glass. If you feel you need the extra 1/3 stop of light and want better optics than the 1.4 then its worth it, but if you don't see yourself opening wide open but you want a better build quality than the 1.8, then 1.4 is perfect.
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#1256
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Is the 1.2 considerably sharper then the 1.4?
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From what I've read, Canon's f1.2 lenses are slow focusing due to the larger element, so perhaps not ideal for some photography
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I think the larger element cost more to manufacture (and perhaps assemble). If, suppose, they were to make the f1.2 more affordable, it would most likely take away a lot of sales of the f1.4, which is most likely have a higher profit margin. Canon would rather sell more of the f1.4 than lowering the price of the f1.2 and sell more of those and less of the f1.4...
Also the 1.2 is weather sealed.
The build material on the 1.2 is more metal. Iirc the 1.4 is more plastic.
The 1.2 has the more desirable ring based USM. The 1.4 is micro USM which is basically a budget AF motor. And because of this is why the AF motor is more known the break on the 1.4
Glass coatings are better on the 1.2 to help cut down on flare and internal reflections.
1.2 has internal focusing and the 1.4 the front element extends when focusing.
There might be a bit more but can't remember right now.
Now whether those differences are worth the extra 1-1.2 grand is up to you
#1260
I heard the "larger element" comment in the past. But it has been argued that because Canon switched from the FD mount to the EOS mount for auto focus lenses, it allows enough light into the lens, so the "larger element" for the reason of slow focus, not there...
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holy crap, that video asianspec posted
the 1.8 does NOT have full time manual focus, hes basically force turning the AF motor which is a
the 1.8 does NOT have full time manual focus, hes basically force turning the AF motor which is a
#1262
Burning Brakes
Lol
#1264
Burning Brakes
Think after I get my 5D3 paid off I'm going to get the Canon 24-70 F/2.8L II
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I wonder how this compares to the Sigma's!!!
Tamron SP 150-600mm f/5-6.3 Di VC
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=REG&A=details
Tamron SP 150-600mm f/5-6.3 Di VC
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=REG&A=details
#1266
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^ f/5-6.3? No thanks. The only time you'd be able to use that thing is in really bright daylight or on a tripod for taking shots of the moon.
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The idea of a super telephoto with a constant 2.8 is wonderful....know how big, heavy, and fucking expensive that would be?
#1268
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To answer your next question, this is how much it costs to get quality at super-telephoto focal lengths.
Canon 600mm f/4L IS - $12,300
Canon 500mm f/4L IS - $10,400
Nikon is about the same-ish prices and these aren't even zoom lenses. Don't think they even make a 2.8 at that size...
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+1
people say it's all about the lens, but IMO it's relative to what you're shooting... Suppose you're shooting wild life or birds photography... having a lens like this, you'll need to bump up the ISO... if the camera doesn't do high ISOs well, then you'll have to deal with noise and you can only clean up noise to a certain extent. And like what David said... having a lens with this range and a constant f2.8 will be super big/heavy, and price range that's not even realistic to most people. Even if you can afford it, the size and weight will be soooo big that it can be cumbersome. Oftentimes wild life photogs have to camp out for hours in camouflage to get their shot... if the lens is too big, that can play a factor
people say it's all about the lens, but IMO it's relative to what you're shooting... Suppose you're shooting wild life or birds photography... having a lens like this, you'll need to bump up the ISO... if the camera doesn't do high ISOs well, then you'll have to deal with noise and you can only clean up noise to a certain extent. And like what David said... having a lens with this range and a constant f2.8 will be super big/heavy, and price range that's not even realistic to most people. Even if you can afford it, the size and weight will be soooo big that it can be cumbersome. Oftentimes wild life photogs have to camp out for hours in camouflage to get their shot... if the lens is too big, that can play a factor
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#1271
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So degrade the image quality?
If this was a legit option, why would so many people bother getting the 70-200 2.8 IS at $2.5k when the $600 f4 would work just fine? I understand that there's a difference between this and a $12k lens but I still wouldn't bother with a cheap super tele especially when the 400 5.6L can be had for relatively cheap.
If this was a legit option, why would so many people bother getting the 70-200 2.8 IS at $2.5k when the $600 f4 would work just fine? I understand that there's a difference between this and a $12k lens but I still wouldn't bother with a cheap super tele especially when the 400 5.6L can be had for relatively cheap.
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So degrade the image quality?
If this was a legit option, why would so many people bother getting the 70-200 2.8 IS at $2.5k when the $600 f4 would work just fine? I understand that there's a difference between this and a $12k lens but I still wouldn't bother with a cheap super tele especially when the 400 5.6L can be had for relatively cheap.
If this was a legit option, why would so many people bother getting the 70-200 2.8 IS at $2.5k when the $600 f4 would work just fine? I understand that there's a difference between this and a $12k lens but I still wouldn't bother with a cheap super tele especially when the 400 5.6L can be had for relatively cheap.
go take a picture with your camera at iso100 and at iso 400. Look at them full size and tell me if you think you degraded the image quality. Try 640. hell, try 800 or 1000. unless you are really trying to get on the cover of NG, I don't think bumping the iso up to compensate for a f5.6 on a supertelephoto is going to introduce so much noise that either (1) the image would be "garbage" or (2) software could not assist in removing the noise.
I will admit, I want a 10mm-1000mm f0.85 that weighs 16 ounces and fits into a sling bag. There are compromises in life. Many are "acceptable."
As to why the 70-200 f2.8 is a good option versus the 70-200 f4 (which I own), it would be the same reasoning as why a cyclist might go out and buy a $12,000 road bike for weekend rides. He wants to use the same gear that the pros use and can afford it. Is it necessary for him? Probably not. He can afford it and he wants to know that he is the limiting factor not the weight/performance of the bike. Will he ride that bike faster than a $200 Huffy? Probably, but most people would say that the small advantage is not worth it for weekend rides when the cost differential is so high. Now, OTOH, if he were a professional and earning his living with this bike, he would want the best performing equipment he could get a hold of.
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So degrade the image quality?
If this was a legit option, why would so many people bother getting the 70-200 2.8 IS at $2.5k when the $600 f4 would work just fine? I understand that there's a difference between this and a $12k lens but I still wouldn't bother with a cheap super tele especially when the 400 5.6L can be had for relatively cheap.
If this was a legit option, why would so many people bother getting the 70-200 2.8 IS at $2.5k when the $600 f4 would work just fine? I understand that there's a difference between this and a $12k lens but I still wouldn't bother with a cheap super tele especially when the 400 5.6L can be had for relatively cheap.
The Tamron seems like a no brainer for a wildlife/bird photographer. Provided the IQ is acceptable and preliminary results are good so far.
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#1275
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I think people are too "f2.8" or "f4" minded.
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From here on out I want to be more F3.141 minded
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from f5.6 to f6.3 is only a 1/3 stop difference
upping your ISO from 100 to 200 is a full stop (and 200 to 400 etc etc), so you make it up with ISOs
upping your ISO from 100 to 200 is a full stop (and 200 to 400 etc etc), so you make it up with ISOs
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