lcrazyaznl

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I heard all good things about that lens !

but i'm not forking more money haha...

crzygosu87

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Hi everyone,

I've been looking into purchasing an ultra-wide angle lens ... these are my choices for now:

(1) Tokina 12-24 f/4
(2) Tokina 11-16 f/2.8
(3) Canon 10-20 f/3.5-4.5

They are listed from cheapest to most expensive. What would you guys recommend? I've read good reviews for both Tokina's on fredmiranda, and it seems the Canon might be a little bit out of my price range given it goes for, cheapest, $600. The tokina 11-16 is the fastest lens, but again I'm not sure if the $200 difference will be worth it over the 12-24. The focal range for all three are pretty close too ... HMMMM

crzygosu87

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forgot to mention the 10-20 is an ef-s lens too

lcrazyaznl

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I heard very good things about tamron 12-24 f 4 for both nikon and canon.

I think you have to play with them to see if it suits you. Since you don't have much wide at 28 i think that would help you fill your range gap.


Anyone know anything about kenko tc?
Nikon tc i'm looking at 1.4x or 1.7x. (70-200 vr 2.8)

crzygosu87

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thanks for the input! I definitely heard a lot of good things about the 12-24

drigo

the canon is actually a 10-22mm...
sigma has a 10-20mm that runs a little over $400...pretty decent lens..i used to have it but sold it and got a canon 10-22mm

stogie1020

OK, I am looking to replace my 28-135 IS with good general walk around lens.

Sometimes when I travel, I just want to bring ONE lens, and currently the 28-135 just seems to lose sharpness in many situations. I am fond of the zoom range, though, as I find it convenient...

Contenders:

24-70 f2.8
24-105 f4 IS
17-55 f2.8IS

I am leaning toward the 17-55 based on the reviews, comments, etc. but I plan on renting all three to test them out.

Any thoughts? Any order I should evaluate them in? Anyone own one and replace it with a different one on the list? Why?

jupitersolo

I would get the 17-55 first, then the 24-70, then the 24-105. To me the 24-105, is the better walk around lens cropped or fullframe. There's just more reach. And we a strictly talking walk around. The other two have there place, but they're not walk around IMO

Some will say absolutely the 17-55 because of the low end, but it's only 7mm. For walk around I want the reach.

stogie1020

Hmmm.. Interesting point.

moeronn

This really is a tough call.

For urban areas, I would lean toward the 17-55. "only 7mm" on the wide end is a big difference. On the long end, it isn't as big a deal. Walking around the zoo I'd want more reach, so the 24-105 would be more appropriate, but I'd rather takezoom a tele for that.

I have never owned the 24-105, but the 17-55 practically lives on my 30D when I'm just out and about.

Mizouse

for me, i would suggest the 24-70, cant tell you how many times i wanted something more than 55mm on my 17-55.

plus i realize i dont shoot as wide as i thought i did before.

lcrazyaznl

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Yea i would go with the 17-55 i have it on my d300. nikon 2.8

Then when you need more zoom i have a 70-200 2.8 to pull out.

the 24-70 really pays off if you go fx or plan on it.

i'm already looking at fx, but i'd have to sell my 17-55 2.8 if i dont keep my d300.

stogie1020

I should add that I own the 10-22 and the 70-200 f4, so for planned events where needed, both of those are available.

stogie1020

Let me ask this question:

Does the IQ of a lens have ANY bearing no the quantity of noise present at a given ISO on a given sensor (40D)?

I anticipate thet if I get the 24-105, I will find my self at higher ISOs (particularly indoors) than I would with the 17-55. Does the quality of the lens have any bearing on quantity or appearance of noise, or is this solely a function of the sensor?

moeronn

AFIAK, the lens doesn't add or reduce noise. Of course, the speed of the lens will dictate what aperture you can use, so that will affect noice levels.

EuRTSX

All I have to say is that the 17-55 compliments my D2H VERY nicely. I couldn't be happier. This combination is just perfect.

I don't even mind the grainy look at high ISO levels for the D2H, adds that old photograph look.

SaaBaaDoo

thinking of getting rid of my 28-135 IS lens. Just can't decide if I want something with adjustable range or get a nice 50mm.

lcrazyaznl

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you probably want something adjustable if that was your only lens. a 50mm is hard to work with in alot close tight situations.

SaaBaaDoo

I found a sigma 18-50mm f/2.8 that seems to be very good for a reasonable price at b&h. Anyone use one of these before?

stogie1020

FYI, Amazon has the Canon 17-55 for sale at $931...

lcrazyaznl

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Tokina 11-16 2.8 is in pretty nice so far
uses 77mm
filters so it helps with the pro glass from nikon.

SaaBaaDoo

my new Sigma 18-50 f/2.8 came in this afternoon. Took a couple of test shots...love it so far!

stogie1020

Well, I rented the 24-70, and frankly was less than overwhelmed. I was mainly using it indoors in lower light settings. The reverse zoom caused me to miss a number of shots, and while the IQ was great, I think I would really appreciate the IS in the 17-55 or 24-105. F2.8 was nice, but trying to get indoor shots of kids playing when the light was low was tricky. I ended up doing what I didn't want to do, which was throwing my flash on. Thank for white ceilings.

derrick

Is this lens worth mentioning? I have a Canon 30D which I have rarely used.

Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM

B&H has it for $419 + $10 S&H (FedEx ground)

It will be a walk around lens. I am frustrated by the kit lens that came with the 30D. I should have been smart to buy just the body and a decent lens separately.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

stogie1020

It;s not bad, but depending on budget, there are probably better in terms of IQ.

SaaBaaDoo

well after spending a few days with the sigma 18-50 f2.8 I found that it has HORRIBLE front focus at 50mm. Had to use the af microadjust feature on the 50D and crank it all the way up to +20 and now it is quite a bit better but not perfect. I threw on my Canon 28-135mm lens that I'm shipping out tomorrow and it was dead on with the focus chart.

I'm thinking about calling B&H about it to see what my options are. I'd love to pick up something in this size range in a canon lens but damn are they expensive!!!

EuRTSX

After my trip to Toronto with my 17-55mm Nikon, I noticed that I was quite limited to some of my image taking.

I wanted more zoom, and need something for my D2H, can anyone recommend me a good lens with the equivalence of the 24-70?

Mizouse

Sigma/tamron 24-70mm

EuRTSX

Hmm.. yeah I was looking at that one just now.

srika

info on Canon's new Hybrid IS system in the 100mm 2.8L IS Macro

http://web.canon.jp/imaging/lens/tec...html#hybrid_is

wndrlst

Cool!

moeronn

Nice. Now they just need to account for forward/backward movements.

BTW, that lens should run around 1049.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0909/09...100mmmacro.asp

srika

been thinking about / researching the Sigma 50-500. anyone have any thoughts / experience on that?

it's surprisingly sharp at 500, I think that's the part that intrigues me the most.

wackjum

I've used one. It's a nice lens. You can find tons of reviews online if you search "Bigma."

Dan Martin

I considered one before I got the EF 300mm f4L but I found it was very hard to hand hold at the higher focal lengths because it didn't have a stabilizer. I think there's a new version that does have one, but I haven't tried it yet. Without the stabilizer, it's pretty much tripod-only beyond 300mm.

AndrewA

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I have a friend who swears by Sigma products but resigns himself to sending the lens in for calibration after buying just to make sure it's adjusted to spec. Seems silly, but they offer quality pieces, but less than stellar assembly.

I ended up buying a Sigma 30mm 1.4 off of him after it was calibrated and I love that lens.

You may want to contact Sigma and let them adjust it. It's warrantied for 6 years isn't it?

SaaBaaDoo

I'm going to send it in for calibration when I get back from vacation this month. I don't know how long the turn around time is for sigma to calibrate them and didn't want to take the risk of not having it for the trip.

waTSX

The Bigma, eh? That thing is an effin' bazooka. I've never shot one, but have read about a lot of people who have, and almost to a person they like it. Like Dan said, it's probably tripod only at longer focal lengths, but it hard to beat all that range in one lens.

stogie1020

Was going to rent the 24-105IS for the long weekend, but I procrastinated and the local store is now out of them.

Mizouse

Sux.

It's like last year where I wanted to rent a 300 2.8 IS, but the place ran out