Toyota: 86 News
#481
Suzuka Master
#483
OFFICIAL specs leaked for Scion FR-S | Subaru BRZ - 200hp / 151tq
It's official, the Scion FR-S, Toyota FT-86, Subaru BRZ will have 200hp, 151 lb-ft torque, and weigh only 2660 pounds (wet)
The rest of full specs @ http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2096
At those power #'s and weight this thing will take the Miata on directly it seems.
The rest of full specs @ http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2096
At those power #'s and weight this thing will take the Miata on directly it seems.
#484
The sizzle in the Steak
"Search" is your friend.
:ibmergepolice:
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#485
Whats up with RDX owners?
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Hmmm. The weight and possible aftermarket support make this car very enticing. Still waiting to see the actual interior. Good gas mileage too.
And lol at the CR-Z being a V4 hybrid.
And lol at the CR-Z being a V4 hybrid.
Last edited by civicdrivr; 10-31-2011 at 11:32 AM.
#487
The sizzle in the Steak
No blown here.
#488
Suzuka Master
#490
Whats up with RDX owners?
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I think the aftermarket support for this car should be rather good, so low torque numbers should be easily rectified.
#491
no turbo FTL
Let's see what Subaru will bring
Let's see what Subaru will bring
#492
#493
I drive a Subata.
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How much power does that ricey looking rear light add to the car?
#494
Ok, get a grip, get the hang of this flipper
it's like slipping two feet into one big, huge slipper.
This way left, but which is right?
Well now I'll be circling in circles all night.
(Oh, so this is forward? No problem)
I can't believe I can do this and more,
to swim in the sea like I walk on the shore.
Out of my shell, not closed up like a clam.
Look out sea,
this is me,
here I am!
For a moment all of me
is alive and at home in the sea.
I'm swirling and twirling so graceful and grand,
not stubbing my toes, getting stuck in the sand.
For a moment life is cool
i'm a splash in the world's biggest pool.
This is more than my thoughts ever thought it could be.
For a moment, just a moment, lucky me.
If only for one moment
I had shared with you all I know.
The sea wouldn't be a mystery.
Oh why did you have to go?
Everything's newer
and brighter and bluer
and truer to life than before
watch me soar!
For a moment I can shine
got a grin and a fin that works fine.
My fingers are wrinkly and I really don't care
if all the curls have curled out of my hair.
For a moment I can feel
all the dreams I've been dreaming are real.
Wish my mother could hear it
the sea is my song.
For a moment, just a moment I belong.
I will find you, my darling.
And the moment that I do
I'll hold you close, my Melody
and sing the song of the sea
with you.
Sing the song of the sea with you.
For a moment, just a moment
I belong.
it's like slipping two feet into one big, huge slipper.
This way left, but which is right?
Well now I'll be circling in circles all night.
(Oh, so this is forward? No problem)
I can't believe I can do this and more,
to swim in the sea like I walk on the shore.
Out of my shell, not closed up like a clam.
Look out sea,
this is me,
here I am!
For a moment all of me
is alive and at home in the sea.
I'm swirling and twirling so graceful and grand,
not stubbing my toes, getting stuck in the sand.
For a moment life is cool
i'm a splash in the world's biggest pool.
This is more than my thoughts ever thought it could be.
For a moment, just a moment, lucky me.
If only for one moment
I had shared with you all I know.
The sea wouldn't be a mystery.
Oh why did you have to go?
Everything's newer
and brighter and bluer
and truer to life than before
watch me soar!
For a moment I can shine
got a grin and a fin that works fine.
My fingers are wrinkly and I really don't care
if all the curls have curled out of my hair.
For a moment I can feel
all the dreams I've been dreaming are real.
Wish my mother could hear it
the sea is my song.
For a moment, just a moment I belong.
I will find you, my darling.
And the moment that I do
I'll hold you close, my Melody
and sing the song of the sea
with you.
Sing the song of the sea with you.
For a moment, just a moment
I belong.
Last edited by MTEAZY; 11-02-2011 at 09:14 PM. Reason: poem
#495
Suzuka Master
I'm still trying to think of what the pricing of this is going to be like.
Toyota said they are aiming for low 20's
Subaru said they are aiming around 28
As I see they are very near similar, I haven't seen anything mentioned between the two cars that justify a huge price difference.
Which gets me thinking that this car may start around 23-25k?
Toyota said they are aiming for low 20's
Subaru said they are aiming around 28
As I see they are very near similar, I haven't seen anything mentioned between the two cars that justify a huge price difference.
Which gets me thinking that this car may start around 23-25k?
#496
Whats up with RDX owners?
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I can see it starting in the mid-20s. The more and more I read about this car, that more I want it.
Ive never felt that way about a Toyota. Hell hath frozen over.
Best believe that if it is branded as Scion here, I will swapping all the badges over to Toyota.
Ive never felt that way about a Toyota. Hell hath frozen over.
Best believe that if it is branded as Scion here, I will swapping all the badges over to Toyota.
#497
Suzuka Master
Well I think the GTI just got bumped down as my most desired first car....
euro version, but i'm sure we will see something very similar if not the same.
sure the interior is not on par with it, but there are some styling elements I like. Something I can live with. Plus reading how it drives I dont expect the best interior in its class...
more pics here
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/11/26/e...ves-june-2012/
some specs, keep in mind these pics are the euro version
I want!!!
euro version, but i'm sure we will see something very similar if not the same.
sure the interior is not on par with it, but there are some styling elements I like. Something I can live with. Plus reading how it drives I dont expect the best interior in its class...
more pics here
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/11/26/e...ves-june-2012/
some specs, keep in mind these pics are the euro version
It's no secret that the Toyota FT-86 will finally make its production-spec debut next week in Tokyo, and ahead of that, the automaker's UK office has released the first official photos and some initial specs. In Europe, the car will officially be called the Toyota GT 86.
Cutting right to the chase, here are the specs that are now official, from the Toyota UK announcement. Obviously, there's more to come:
2.0-liter boxer with D4-S injection (direct and port injected)
197 hp @ 7,000 rpm and 151 lb-ft (205 Nm) @6,600 rpm
6-speed manual or automatic transmissions
17-inch wheel/tire package standard
4,240mm (167 in.) long, 1285mm (50.6 in.) high, 2,570mm (101 in.) wide
53:47 front-to-rear weight distribution
475mm (18.7 in.) center of gravity
As demonstrated in the photos, everything is basically in line with what we've seen so far in the various leaked materials. So, start getting excited. In addition to the sharp styling outside, the interior looks the business, and the "86" fender logo is just plain cool. The GT 86 goes on sale in the UK next June.
We'll be on hand in Tokyo for the official reveal at the end of the coming week, with plenty more then. In the meantime, peruse the photo gallery and hit the jump for the full press release.
Cutting right to the chase, here are the specs that are now official, from the Toyota UK announcement. Obviously, there's more to come:
2.0-liter boxer with D4-S injection (direct and port injected)
197 hp @ 7,000 rpm and 151 lb-ft (205 Nm) @6,600 rpm
6-speed manual or automatic transmissions
17-inch wheel/tire package standard
4,240mm (167 in.) long, 1285mm (50.6 in.) high, 2,570mm (101 in.) wide
53:47 front-to-rear weight distribution
475mm (18.7 in.) center of gravity
As demonstrated in the photos, everything is basically in line with what we've seen so far in the various leaked materials. So, start getting excited. In addition to the sharp styling outside, the interior looks the business, and the "86" fender logo is just plain cool. The GT 86 goes on sale in the UK next June.
We'll be on hand in Tokyo for the official reveal at the end of the coming week, with plenty more then. In the meantime, peruse the photo gallery and hit the jump for the full press release.
#499
So the leaked catalog was accurate. minus the center console with the exposed cup holder section. But that's just a minor detail.
I like seeing the Toyota logo on it. Hope it's the same here in the U.S. I'll take one with the body kit. White looks good too.
Video:
http://youtu.be/nw6WnrqMDTw
Pics:
86 badge.... Looks nice.
I like seeing the Toyota logo on it. Hope it's the same here in the U.S. I'll take one with the body kit. White looks good too.
Video:
http://youtu.be/nw6WnrqMDTw
Pics:
86 badge.... Looks nice.
Last edited by AZuser; 11-27-2011 at 11:13 AM.
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Wow that's good looking. Even better looking for being ~$25k
Not sure how I feel about the arch over the front wheel though. Seems a bit overdone.
Not sure how I feel about the arch over the front wheel though. Seems a bit overdone.
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More driving action with engine sounds. It has a nice throaty sound. I've heard a lot of subaru boxer 4's but never one that sounded like this. I like it.
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#503
#505
#506
Burning Brakes
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Okay, I'll keep this thread open in case Toyota wants to release a Scion-badged version...
Creating a new thread for the GT 86...
Creating a new thread for the GT 86...
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Toyota: GT 86 news
Press release...
After a keenly monitored gestation period, Toyota’s eagerly awaited, compact 2+2 sports car, the GT 86, makes its world debut on November 30th at this year’s Tokyo Motor Show. On sale throughout Europe in the summer of 2012, the GT 86 is an entirely driver-oriented vehicle. Conceived to focus specifically on the core attributes of the classic sports car experience, it gives form to the intrinsic joy of driving through precise, instantaneous response to even the smallest throttle or steering inputs, for those who regard driving as a passion rather than a necessity.
With a low, highly aerodynamic bodyshell stretched tight over the engineering hard points, the new GT 86 is based on an entirely new platform. Shunning a heavy, large displacement powertrain for its performance, the GT 86 returns to Toyota’s sporting roots with the world’s only combination of a compact, front-mounted, free-revving, horizontally opposed ‘boxer’ petrol engine and rear-wheel drive.
This unique powertrain format combines with the world’s most compact four-seat design, light weight, low inertia and a low centre of gravity for the best possible power-to-weight ratio. These attributes award the GT 86 lively, accessible performance, highly engaging, readily exploitable dynamic abilities with minimal electronic intrusion, and maximum driving pleasure.
Packaged to Deliver the Ultimate in Sports Driving Enjoyment
4,240 mm long, only 1,285 mm high and with a wheelbase of 2,570 mm, the new GT 86 is the world’s most compact four-seater sports car.
Both the powertrain and driving position have been set as low and as far back as possible to optimise balance, giving the GT 86 near-perfect, 53:47 weight distribution. The flat-four format of the front-mounted boxer engine combines with the lowest driver hip-point of any Toyota production vehicle to give the GT 86 an ultra-low centre of gravity of only 460 mm.
The GT 86 maximises the benefits of its minimal mass, supercar-rivalling lack of inertia and ultra-low centre of gravity with front MacPherson strut and rear double wishbone suspension, and large powerful ventilated disc brakes to both front and rear 17” wheels, allowing drivers to fully exploit the purity of the new Toyota sports car’s outstandingly nimble handling, dynamic agility and cornering poise.
World’s First Horizontally Opposed D-4S Engine
The GT 86’s 2.0 litre, naturally-aspirated petrol engine is the result of a joint development between Subaru and Toyota, bringing together their technical know-how and mutual passion for sports cars. To Subaru’s newly developed, horizontally opposed, 1998cc, four-cylinder boxer engine, Toyota has added its D-4S technology. With separate twin injectors for both direct and port injection, and a high compression ratio of 12.5:1, D-4S increases power and torque over a wide range of engine speeds without sacrificing fuel efficiency and environmental performance.
With a namesake 86 mm x 86 mm bore and stroke, the new engine develops 200 DIN hp at 7000 rpm and maximum torque of 205 Nm at 6600 rpm, giving the GT 86 brisk, engaging performance.
The flat-four engine may be mated to either a six-speed manual or six-speed automatic transmission. The manual transmission will offer quick, precise shifting via the highly engaging action of a tactile, short-throw lever, whilst the automatic transmission will be controlled by sporting, steering wheel-mounted paddle shifts.
Power is distributed to the rear wheels via a limited slip differential, optimising traction and grip under all driving conditions. And the GT 86’s ABS and switchable VSC safety systems have been specifically tuned to combine dynamic stability at the limit of the vehicle’s performance envelope with minimal electronic intrusion on the purity of the driving experience.
Evocative Design Combining Iconic Styling with Functional Beauty
Designed under the ‘Neo Functionalism’ concept, the GT 86 combines the technical constraints of the most compact dimensions possible, a low centre of gravity and excellent, F1 technology-inspired aerodynamic performance with evocative, sweeping styling recalling the heritage of past Toyota sports cars.
The bold, simple yet iconic styling incorporates two key pillars of a new Toyota design language: Under Priority frontal design, which places the emphasis on an enlarged lower grille, focusing attention on the lower part of the car for a distinctive, more assertive appearance, and a Keen Look approach for clear, intelligent and expressive styling.
The new design language is enhanced by bold ‘Scorpion’ styling to the lower grille, giving the GT 86 an even more aggressive, sporting appearance. Further sporting details include purpose made 17” alloy wheels, a rear spoiler, twin rear exhausts and the ‘86’ piston logo, which highlights the car’s unique, front boxer engine rear-wheel drive powertrain format.
On board, the entirely driver-focused cockpit re-evaluates the essence of sports car driving through the detailed examination of the ergonomics and functionality of every element with which the driver interacts, allowing the GT 86 to be driven as if it were a natural extension of the driver’s body.
The seatbacks and cushion surfaces are designed to provide optimum support under acceleration g-forces from the front, back and sides. In addition, the shape of the front seat is designed not only for comfort, but also to prevent elbows from interfering with gearshift operation.
The steering wheel has a diameter of just 365 mm, the smallest yet fitted to a Toyota, and its buckskin finish has been developed through exhaustive feedback from test drivers to offer enhanced steering performance and maximum grip under all cockpit conditions.
Built around the large tachometer, the three meter instrument cluster has been designed with particular attention paid to display placement, markings and typeface, ensuring optimum, at-a-glance visibility and readability during sports driving. The dedicated driving focus of the cockpit is further reinforced by carbon effect trim, a sporting, all-black roof lining, red upholstery stitching, aviation-style rocker switchgear and lightweight aluminium pedals.
A 50 Year Heritage of Front-Engined, Rear-Wheel Drive Sports Cars
Though the GT 86 launches as the world’s only front-mounted horizontally opposed engine and rear-wheel drive package, it cannot claim to be the first. That honour goes to Toyota’s two-cylinder boxer engined Sports 800, which the company began developing in 1962. Since then, Toyota has created a long history of producing exciting, driver-focused, front-engined rear-wheel drive sports cars that have proved as popular with the public as they have been successful in competition. The beautiful 2000 GT, a 2.0 litre straight-six-powered coupe first displayed at the 1965 Tokyo Motor Show, helped establish the company’s global reputation as a sports car manufacturer.
Launched in 1971, the first Celicas incorporated rear-wheel drive powertrains, and were praised by enthusiasts for their agility. All four Supra generations boasted straight-six engines and rear-wheel drive. And, first appearing in 1984, the MR2 gained a well-deserved reputation as one of the best handling sports cars of all time. However, with its reputation for delivering pure excitement and embodying the fundamental joy of driving, the Corolla Levin AE86 is the inspiration behind Toyota’s GT 86.
The Corolla Levin AE86’s front engined, rear-wheel drive powertrain, compact dimensions, light weight, impeccable balance and superior power-to-weight ratio made it the must-have choice for rallying and circuit driving throughout its 1983-1987 production life.
A genuinely lightweight machine which offers the intimacy and involvement of a car that can be driven as if it were an extension of the driver’s body, the GT 86 perfectly recaptures the exhilarating spirit of the last Corolla Levin AE 86 and, with numerous customisable parts, shares its aim to be an affordable car that evolves with its owner.
With a low, highly aerodynamic bodyshell stretched tight over the engineering hard points, the new GT 86 is based on an entirely new platform. Shunning a heavy, large displacement powertrain for its performance, the GT 86 returns to Toyota’s sporting roots with the world’s only combination of a compact, front-mounted, free-revving, horizontally opposed ‘boxer’ petrol engine and rear-wheel drive.
This unique powertrain format combines with the world’s most compact four-seat design, light weight, low inertia and a low centre of gravity for the best possible power-to-weight ratio. These attributes award the GT 86 lively, accessible performance, highly engaging, readily exploitable dynamic abilities with minimal electronic intrusion, and maximum driving pleasure.
Packaged to Deliver the Ultimate in Sports Driving Enjoyment
4,240 mm long, only 1,285 mm high and with a wheelbase of 2,570 mm, the new GT 86 is the world’s most compact four-seater sports car.
Both the powertrain and driving position have been set as low and as far back as possible to optimise balance, giving the GT 86 near-perfect, 53:47 weight distribution. The flat-four format of the front-mounted boxer engine combines with the lowest driver hip-point of any Toyota production vehicle to give the GT 86 an ultra-low centre of gravity of only 460 mm.
The GT 86 maximises the benefits of its minimal mass, supercar-rivalling lack of inertia and ultra-low centre of gravity with front MacPherson strut and rear double wishbone suspension, and large powerful ventilated disc brakes to both front and rear 17” wheels, allowing drivers to fully exploit the purity of the new Toyota sports car’s outstandingly nimble handling, dynamic agility and cornering poise.
World’s First Horizontally Opposed D-4S Engine
The GT 86’s 2.0 litre, naturally-aspirated petrol engine is the result of a joint development between Subaru and Toyota, bringing together their technical know-how and mutual passion for sports cars. To Subaru’s newly developed, horizontally opposed, 1998cc, four-cylinder boxer engine, Toyota has added its D-4S technology. With separate twin injectors for both direct and port injection, and a high compression ratio of 12.5:1, D-4S increases power and torque over a wide range of engine speeds without sacrificing fuel efficiency and environmental performance.
With a namesake 86 mm x 86 mm bore and stroke, the new engine develops 200 DIN hp at 7000 rpm and maximum torque of 205 Nm at 6600 rpm, giving the GT 86 brisk, engaging performance.
The flat-four engine may be mated to either a six-speed manual or six-speed automatic transmission. The manual transmission will offer quick, precise shifting via the highly engaging action of a tactile, short-throw lever, whilst the automatic transmission will be controlled by sporting, steering wheel-mounted paddle shifts.
Power is distributed to the rear wheels via a limited slip differential, optimising traction and grip under all driving conditions. And the GT 86’s ABS and switchable VSC safety systems have been specifically tuned to combine dynamic stability at the limit of the vehicle’s performance envelope with minimal electronic intrusion on the purity of the driving experience.
Evocative Design Combining Iconic Styling with Functional Beauty
Designed under the ‘Neo Functionalism’ concept, the GT 86 combines the technical constraints of the most compact dimensions possible, a low centre of gravity and excellent, F1 technology-inspired aerodynamic performance with evocative, sweeping styling recalling the heritage of past Toyota sports cars.
The bold, simple yet iconic styling incorporates two key pillars of a new Toyota design language: Under Priority frontal design, which places the emphasis on an enlarged lower grille, focusing attention on the lower part of the car for a distinctive, more assertive appearance, and a Keen Look approach for clear, intelligent and expressive styling.
The new design language is enhanced by bold ‘Scorpion’ styling to the lower grille, giving the GT 86 an even more aggressive, sporting appearance. Further sporting details include purpose made 17” alloy wheels, a rear spoiler, twin rear exhausts and the ‘86’ piston logo, which highlights the car’s unique, front boxer engine rear-wheel drive powertrain format.
On board, the entirely driver-focused cockpit re-evaluates the essence of sports car driving through the detailed examination of the ergonomics and functionality of every element with which the driver interacts, allowing the GT 86 to be driven as if it were a natural extension of the driver’s body.
The seatbacks and cushion surfaces are designed to provide optimum support under acceleration g-forces from the front, back and sides. In addition, the shape of the front seat is designed not only for comfort, but also to prevent elbows from interfering with gearshift operation.
The steering wheel has a diameter of just 365 mm, the smallest yet fitted to a Toyota, and its buckskin finish has been developed through exhaustive feedback from test drivers to offer enhanced steering performance and maximum grip under all cockpit conditions.
Built around the large tachometer, the three meter instrument cluster has been designed with particular attention paid to display placement, markings and typeface, ensuring optimum, at-a-glance visibility and readability during sports driving. The dedicated driving focus of the cockpit is further reinforced by carbon effect trim, a sporting, all-black roof lining, red upholstery stitching, aviation-style rocker switchgear and lightweight aluminium pedals.
A 50 Year Heritage of Front-Engined, Rear-Wheel Drive Sports Cars
Though the GT 86 launches as the world’s only front-mounted horizontally opposed engine and rear-wheel drive package, it cannot claim to be the first. That honour goes to Toyota’s two-cylinder boxer engined Sports 800, which the company began developing in 1962. Since then, Toyota has created a long history of producing exciting, driver-focused, front-engined rear-wheel drive sports cars that have proved as popular with the public as they have been successful in competition. The beautiful 2000 GT, a 2.0 litre straight-six-powered coupe first displayed at the 1965 Tokyo Motor Show, helped establish the company’s global reputation as a sports car manufacturer.
Launched in 1971, the first Celicas incorporated rear-wheel drive powertrains, and were praised by enthusiasts for their agility. All four Supra generations boasted straight-six engines and rear-wheel drive. And, first appearing in 1984, the MR2 gained a well-deserved reputation as one of the best handling sports cars of all time. However, with its reputation for delivering pure excitement and embodying the fundamental joy of driving, the Corolla Levin AE86 is the inspiration behind Toyota’s GT 86.
The Corolla Levin AE86’s front engined, rear-wheel drive powertrain, compact dimensions, light weight, impeccable balance and superior power-to-weight ratio made it the must-have choice for rallying and circuit driving throughout its 1983-1987 production life.
A genuinely lightweight machine which offers the intimacy and involvement of a car that can be driven as if it were an extension of the driver’s body, the GT 86 perfectly recaptures the exhilarating spirit of the last Corolla Levin AE 86 and, with numerous customisable parts, shares its aim to be an affordable car that evolves with its owner.
#509
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#510
Senior Moderator
First reported in the Scion FR-S thread, folks...starting a new one for now. Maybe we'll merge them when I'm less confused if this is a Subaru, Scion, and/or a Toyota.
#511
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Nevermind, merged.
#512
My first Avatar....
If only it had around 300 HP.
#513
I'm glad someone is making an affordable sporty RWD car.
I had always hoped Honda would get it right one of these days and the Integra would be reborn in some way like this. Mid to high 20's, decent power-to-weight ratio, RWD.
really the only thing I can knock this thing for is the chintzy interior and possibly that rear wing. but considering the price and everything else you're getting, it's not even a deal breaker.
I had always hoped Honda would get it right one of these days and the Integra would be reborn in some way like this. Mid to high 20's, decent power-to-weight ratio, RWD.
really the only thing I can knock this thing for is the chintzy interior and possibly that rear wing. but considering the price and everything else you're getting, it's not even a deal breaker.
#515
toyota wins at life
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im not sure i dig the look of this car from the back....
#517
I drive a Subata.
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yea maybe thats it, and whats with that triangle?