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I didn’t want legacy to fail. I wanted them to make good quality EVs at reasonable price, which they didn’t.
I hate dealership games and would root for their removal.
They make good EV's at the same price as Tesla does for competitive models.
You would rather buy from an automaker that just randomly changes prices on a whim?
I didn’t want legacy to fail. I wanted them to make good quality EVs at reasonable price, which they didn’t.
I hate dealership games and would root for their removal.
Yeah. whatever.
btw...the are no reasonably priced EVs. That's one of the biggest problems with them.
Look at the trajectory. Only a matter of time. ….Since many of you guys have problems extrapolating things to near future. You’ll know only when it passes by you.
Look at the trajectory. Only a matter of time. ….Since many of you guys have problems extrapolating things to near future. You’ll know only when it passes by you.
Look at the trajectory. Only a matter of time. ….Since many of you guys have problems extrapolating things to near future. You’ll know only when it passes by you.
Elon Musk, as new haircut leaves internet ROFL, says 'did it myself'
Briefly saw part of that WSJ YouTube Interview with Musk, and wondered who the F@#^ cut his hair, he did of course.
Wonder if Kim Jong Un or Peaky Blinders were his inspiration
Some of the meme's in that link are fairly amusing
Tesla sued by second female worker over sexual harassment, retaliation
December 9, 2021
San Francisco, Dec 9 (Reuters) - Tesla Inc is being sued by a second female employee for sexual harassment in less than a month, with the two lawsuits alleging a "hostile work environment" against women at the car maker's U.S. factory.
Erica Cloud, a Tesla assembly line worker, accused defendants including her former manager of "continuous and pervasive" sexual harassment in a lawsuit filed in Alameda County Superior Court in California on Wednesday.
She alleges the manager hugged and massaged her while making crude and suggestive remarks. She said she is now experiencing retaliation from other managers after complaining to Tesla's human resources team about the misconduct.
Tesla and other defendants subjected her to "a hostile work environment stemming from animus towards her gender, sexual harassment," the lawsuit says.
The lawsuit alleges that Tesla and other defendants failed to prevent and take corrective actions over sexual harassment and retaliation.
Tesla did not immediately responded to Reuters' emailed questions about the lawsuit. Tesla does not have a public relations department.
On Nov. 18, another female Tesla worker, Jessica Barraza, filed a lawsuit against Tesla, alleging rampant sexual harassment at its main factory in Fremont, California.
"The pervasive culture of sexual harassment, which includes a daily barrage of sexist language and behavior, including frequent groping on the factory floor, is known to supervisors and managers and often perpetrated by them," the lawsuit alleges.
In October, a Black contract worker won a $137 million jury award over workplace racism against Tesla. Tesla shareholders subsequently approved a proposal to ask it to publish a report fully accessing the company's diversity and inclusion effort.
Tesla announced to potential buyers today that it stopped taking new Model S and Model X orders outside North America.
It now expects deliveries in other markets to start during the second half of 2022.
The news comes from an email that Tesla started sending out to people who have Model S and Model X vehicles on order in Europe.
Tesla writes in the email that it is not accepting any new orders (translated from German):
In order to expedite the delivery of existing orders, including your Model X order, as much as possible, we are currently no longer accepting new orders for the Model S and Model X from markets outside of North America.
This is in response to Tesla likely having a large backlog of Model S/X orders in Europe and other markets, where there has been no new Model S/X shipment in a year.
Tesla shut down Model S and Model X production in January of last year to update the vehicles.
During that year, the automaker kept taking new orders, but production was delayed with new Model S starting to slowly come off the assembly line in June and Model X in October.
Tesla is still catching up to the backlog in North America while new orders kept coming in from Europe and Asia.
In the email, Tesla says that it now aims to deliver the first Model S and Model X in Europe during the second half of next year:
Your Model X is getting closer to delivery. We currently expect shipments outside of North America to begin in the second half of 2022.
This means that Europe would be without Model S and Model X for a year and a half.
Yeah I’m not sure about all that, I think auto evolution may be misunderstanding Elon’s tweet, he never explicitly said they wouldn’t get any, he said don’t read too much into this. I think PepsiCo may be pressuring Tesla to make them some Semis, Tesla may be giving them special treatment. I would expect the Semi design is complete at this point, Elon has said many times that the delay is because of battery supply issues. I think Tesla is going to make a few Semis for PepsiCo real quick but everyone else has to wait.
You are aware it's almost December right? Wouldn't we have seen these trucks starting to roll off the line for final test already? Any manufacturing validation units running around?
it is irrelevant. it is like i start posting Honda China deliveries from Chinese factories.
what has Tesla done for US consumers? except for price rises. Model 3 with less space is 70% higher priced than Camry/Accord with 50% less range.
You should ask that question to the US government. Why are they even considering tax benefits for vehicles costing up to $80k…? Limit all incentives to MSRP < $40k and you’ll see all manufacturers racing to lower their prices below that. Currently everyone (Tesla included) is trying to price all their vehicles to $70-80k so that they get to maximize their benefits.
so now you are blaming US government for Tesla price rise? who made decision to built factory at most expensive aka Fremont?. when battery plant is in Nevada.
Tesla cannot even manage rim size. forcing consumers to buy 19 and 20 inch rims for extra money. as smaller rims are not available.
Tesla cannot make less than $45k vehicle. even Chinese prices are moving towards US prices.
look at Sport Accord Chinese made. fully loaded for $30K. 18inch rims. 56 mpg.
I want to hear @SSFTSX spin to try to explain how smart the French engineers were when they designed the Renault Zoe to be so unsafe that it got a zero star safety rating.
I want him to explain why he thinks a European family should put their kids in a Renault Zoe instead of the five star safety rated Tesla Model 3
French manufacturer Renault is showcasing the ZOE electric car these days in Paris, a concept that first debuted at last year’s Frankfurt Auto Show. The car previews the forthcoming mass-market Renault electric car that bears the same name, scheduled for market launch sometime in 2012.
San Francisco, Jan 4 (Reuters) - Tesla Inc's ability to design components in-house gave the automaker agility in making tweaks to parts and coping with supply chain issues that hit other automakers much harder, sources and experts said.
Tesla boosted its deliveries by 87% to a record high in 2021, pushing up its shares up over 13% on Monday.
Here are some of the ways Tesla navigated supply chain challenges.
HOW TESLA COPED WITH THE GLOBAL CHIP SHORTAGE
Tesla told some customers they could take vehicle delivery with some missing parts, such as Bluetooth chips and USB ports. Tesla also removed some features such as radar sensors and lumbar support for front passenger seats, which made the car less complicated to build. Tesla did not respond to Reuters' request for comments.
Tesla also increased vehicle prices to address higher costs, including "expedite costs" for parts. American consumers have to wait for seven months if they order a Model Y version, whose prices went up 18% last year.
Tesla chief executive Elon Musk said Tesla was also able to substitute alternative chips for some that were in short supply. Volkswagen CEO Herbert Diess said Tesla's ability to rewrite software to support the new chips in 2-3 weeks was impressive.
HOW TESLA IS DIFFERENT FROM OTHER AUTOMAKERS?
Tesla designs more hardware and writes more software than many rivals, who rely on auto suppliers' efforts. Musk has called the company "absurdly vertically integrated compared to other auto companies."
"We design circuit boards by ourselves, which allow us to modify their design quickly to accommodate alternative chips like powerchips," a Tesla insider said.
In-house engineers design the bulk of the complex software that runs the Tesla vehicles, which Musk has described as a "computer on wheels".
Tesla also designs the chips used in its driver assistant systems and makes parts ranging from seats to battery cells in-house. It also owns its own direct sales, service and charging networks.
"We're designing and building so much more of the car than other OEMs (original equipment manufacturers) who will largely go to the traditional supply base and like I call it, catalog engineering. So it is not very adventurous," Musk said.
Ambrose Conroy, CEO of Seraph Consulting, said: "They control what's going on in that vehicle at a level that no other automaker wants to do it. It is much more aligned to the integration that Henry Ford had originally with the Model T."
HOW TESLA SECURED CHIP ORDERS
In 2020, many automakers cut chip orders as the pandemic and lockdown measures hit demand. But Tesla never reduced its production forecast with suppliers, since it expected rapid growth, which helped it weather the chip shortage, Tesla chief financial officer Zach Kirkhorn has said.
"They've just been smarter about it than other companies in terms of making sure there's buffer stock," a Tesla supplier executive said.
Tesla's direct ties with chip suppliers allowed it to move faster than traditional automakers, which rely on first-tier suppliers who have relationships with chipmakers, Kevin Anderson, Principal Consultant at Write-Tek, said.
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