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Watch Every Porsche 911 Turbo Generation Go Head-To-Head In A Drag Race

Amusing fact: Ferdinand Porsche's daughter Louise Piëch received the first production 930 Turbo

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I'll have that 1991, please!
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The next GT3 is about to be unveiled in a few minutes.
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https://www.netcarshow.com/porsche/2022-911_gt3/


Porsche has taken the new 911 GT3 off the leash. The seventh edition of this high-performance sports car was also developed in close collaboration with Porsche Motorsport. It transfers pure racing technology into a production model even more consistently than ever before: the double wishbone front axle layout and sophisticated aerodynamics with swan neck rear wing and striking diffuser originate from the successful GT race car 911 RSR and the 375 kW (510 PS) four-litre six-cylinder boxer engine is based on the drivetrain of the 911 GT3 R, tried and tested in endurance racing. The acoustically impressive, high-revving engine is also used practically unchanged in the new 911 GT3 Cup. The result is a brilliant driving machine: efficient and emotional, precise and high-performance - perfect for the circuit and superb for everyday use.

The distinctive strength of the Porsche 911 GT3 lies in the sum of its characteristics. With a top speed of 320 km/h (318 km/h with PDK) it is even faster than the previous 911 GT3 RS. It accelerates from zero to 100 km/h in 3.4 seconds. Porsche also offers the new model with a six-speed manual transmission for a particularly puristic driving experience. The sophisticated aerodynamics benefit from the experiences gained from motor racing and generate significantly more downforce without noticeably affecting the drag coefficient. In the performance position, the manually set wing and diffuser elements significantly increase the aerodynamic pressure for high cornering speeds. This is, however, reserved strictly for outings on the circuit, as it is there that the 911 GT3 can play all its trump cards. During final testing, it lapped the Nuerburgring-Nordschleife, traditionally the ultimate proving ground for all sports cars developed by Porsche, over 17 seconds quicker than its predecessor. Development driver Lars Kern took just 6:59.927 minutes for a full 20.8-kilometre lap. The shorter 20.6-kilometre track, which had previously served as a benchmark, was completed by the Porsche 911 GT3 in 6:55.2 minutes. Running on the optionally available Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 R tyres, the new model consistently delivered its performance over several laps in the expert hands of Porsche brand ambassador Jörg Bergmeister. For Bergmeister, it is "by far the best production car" that the experienced professional driver has ever driven in the "Green Hell".

Despite a wider body, larger wheels and additional technical features, the weight of the new GT3 is on a par with its predecessor. With manual gearbox it weighs 1.418 kilograms, with PDK 1.435 kilograms. The front bonnet made of carbon fibre-reinforced plastic (CFRP), lightweight glass windows, optimised brake discs and forged light-alloy wheels ensure weight discipline, as does the cover for the rear seat compartment. The lightweight sports exhaust system reduces the weight by no less than ten kilograms. With infinitely electrically adjustable exhaust flaps, it harmonises a highly emotional sound experience with the Euro 6d ISC FCM (EU6 AP) emissions standard. The combined consumption of the 911 GT3 is 13.3 litres/100 km (PDK 12.4).

Its racing genes are expressed in practically all the details of the new Porsche 911 GT3. The cockpit is in line with the current model generation. A new feature is the track screen: at the touch of a button, it reduces the digital displays to the left and right of the central rev counter, which reaches up to 10,000 revs, to information such as tyre pressure indicator, oil pressure, oil temperature, fuel tank level and water temperature, which are essential when driving on the circuit. It also includes a visual shift assistant with coloured bars to the left and right of the rev counter and a shift light derived from Motorsport.

Especially for the Porsche GT models, customers are increasingly requesting customised equipment. For this reason, the Porsche Exclusive Manufaktur range is also available for the new 911 GT3 and is supplemented by GT 3-specific options such as a lightweight roof made of exposed carbon fibre. Other highlights include exterior mirror tops made of carbon, darkened LED matrix main headlights and matching Exclusive design rear lights with an arc of light with no red components. Guards Red or Shark Blue painted wheel rims enhance the black alloy wheels. In the interior, equipment details such as the dials for the rev counter and Sport Chrono stopwatch, seatbelts and trim strips set elegant accents in the body colour or other desired colour.

As exclusive as the Porsche 911 GT3 itself is the individual chronograph that Porsche Design offers exclusively to customers of the high-performance sports car. Like its motorised role model, it boasts a dynamic design, consistent performance and high-quality workmanship. Its housing reflects its Motorsport genes. Just like the connecting rods of the GT3 engine, it consists of robust, lightweight titanium. The timepiece is powered by an individual winding rotor reminiscent of the wheels of the 911 GT3. The coloured ring of the dial can be customised in the paint colours of the 911 GT3.

Porsche is offering the new Porsche 911 GT3 with a starting price of 152,416 euros including VAT and country-specific equipment. Delivery is set for May 2021.
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Three pedals, superb.

The GT3 has generally been my favorite iteration, but I have always hated swan necks and still do. Overall the design has been a bit busy, and uhh, I'll be skipping this one.You know, so I can buy whatever is gonna be the successor to the 918. Probably make that my Saturday car
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Someone way smarter than me decided it was best to put the wing on the body instead of the trunk but I think it looks weird
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Originally Posted by Joneill44
Someone way smarter than me decided it was best to put the wing on the body instead of the trunk but I think it looks weird


How dare you criticize perfection?!??
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Originally Posted by Yumcha


How dare you criticize perfection?!??

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Originally Posted by Joneill44
Someone way smarter than me decided it was best to put the wing on the body instead of the trunk but I think it looks weird
Trunk has compression and give to it before the load transfers to the body and therefore the wheels. Putting it on the body first takes out the middle man...and also makes the trunk lighter because it no longer needs to carry that load.
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Amusing fact: Ferdinand Porsche's daughter Louise Piëch received the first production 930 Turbo.
Damn, it pays to have connections. LOL

YouTube yesterday saw the new GT3 on the Nürburgring. Amazing, a normally aspirated GT3 (not the GT3 RS) doing 6 min 59 seconds. And it is not because I have a P car, but every time I look at hot laps of the Nürburgring from various manufacturers, the Porsche always looks composed. It looks like the driver is going on a Sunday drive. Of course I am talking professional drivers, just as any manufacturer can use.

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Damn, it pays to have connections. LOL

YouTube yesterday saw the new GT3 on the Nürburgring. Amazing, a normally aspirated GT3 (not the GT3 RS) doing 6 min 59 seconds. And it is not because I have a P car, but every time I look at hot laps of the Nürburgring from various manufacturers, the Porsche always looks composed. It looks like the driver is going on a Sunday drive. Of course I am talking professional drivers, just as any manufacturer can use.
It was also her 70th birthday present. Story and pics of the very 1st 911 Turbo (aka 930), which today is in the Porsche museum.

https://www.whichcar.com.au/features...irst-911-turbo




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WANT!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Chief F1 Fan
WANT!!!!!
So did I since it is the only 911 since 2017 that is still normally aspirated, but I got talked out of it by a friend and PCA track instructor. Sure he said, if you spend lots of time at the track (same with the GT3 RS), but as a daily driver or sunny day weekend car, not so much fun. I am glad I came across a new/used 991.1 GTS instead.

But what an impressive car that is so unassuming. Boring in fact next to a glamorous looking Ferrari.
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Originally Posted by Yumcha


I hate dirty windows especially at night with headlights streaming through them. How the hell do you clean the rear window glass and rear side windows? It is tough when you are 6 feet in a regular 911.
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If you can afford this GT3 you probably don't wash it yourself
Nobody touches my cars! And by the way, my GTS cost me more than a GT3.
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Nobody touches my cars! And by the way, my GTS cost me more than a GT3.
If that's the case you did it wrong.
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I am glad I came across a new/used 991.1 GTS instead.
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Looking at GTS's and S's trying to decide which I'd rather have. Regardless, a manual is a must-have feature. Any downsides to the GTS ?
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[QUActuallyOTE=SamDoe1;16693720]If that's the case you did it wrong.[/QUOTE]

Actually...no!
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Looking at GTS's and S's trying to decide which I'd rather have. Regardless, a manual is a must-have feature. Any downsides to the GTS ?
Not in my view. Its a better deal than getting an S and adding all the options. I bought mine used with a mere 98 miles on it. Lucky in that I got my 2015 991.1 GTS that was practically new in 2018 when the 991.2 3.0l turbos were out already (didn't want one of them). It came with tons of factory performance options and made a better street car than a GT3. And it came with a 7-speed manual. I would have never touched it if it were a PDK.


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Looking at GTS's and S's trying to decide which I'd rather have. Regardless, a manual is a must-have feature. Any downsides to the GTS ?
Now that I am at a real PC and not my tablet, whatever you are considering, get a Pre-Purchase Inspection (PPI) and one where you can observe what they are doing. That said, I know cars and I didn't for my Porsche 993 and certainly not for the 991 GTS since it only had 157 kilometers or 98 miles on it. No surprises with each of them. But I did run my Defelsko paint thickness gauge on every panel and I ran my Durametric Diagnostic tool on the 991 GTS. No paint issues/resprays and no over-revs in any of the six ranges above redline. Sort of what I expected. That tool is expensive, so see if you can borrow one from a local owner.

As for reviews, both in magazines and on-line, well have you ever seen one that tells you the car is crap? Not really, or it would be the last time they would be reviewing a car. LOL And I never looked at one till after I bought and I found these spot on.

But here are a few and I like these because they are more down to earth and some of them are long....


The above is 39 minutes long.

The above is in German and 46 minutes long.
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[QUActuallyOTE=SamDoe1;16693720]If that's the case you did it wrong.
Actually...no![/QUOTE]

How did you end up paying more for a GTS than an equivalent GT3?
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How did you end up paying more for a GTS than an equivalent GT3?
In 2018 when I bought my GTS, the Porsche MSRP for a GT3 was $163,000 plus options, although I wonder what options one would get on that car...never really looked into it.

My 2015 911 Carrera 4 GTS to the original owner, who never drove it, ran him just over $208,000 out the door or less if he got a discount. The car came with $45,620 in Porsche factory options, most of them performance and some for comfort.

And a GT3 is pointless for mostly street use. Glad I listened to my friend and PCA instructor. The only reason why I would want one is it was the only normally aspirated 911 in 2018 that I could buy new. The 2015 GTS with only 98 miles is basically the same as far as "new" was. Absolutely no regrets.
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In 2018 when I bought my GTS, the Porsche MSRP for a GT3 was $163,000 plus options, although I wonder what options one would get on that car...never really looked into it.

My 2015 911 Carrera 4 GTS to the original owner, who never drove it, ran him just over $208,000 out the door or less if he got a discount. The car came with $45,620 in Porsche factory options, most of them performance and some for comfort.

And a GT3 is pointless for mostly street use. Glad I listened to my friend and PCA instructor. The only reason why I would want one is it was the only normally aspirated 911 in 2018 that I could buy new. The 2015 GTS with only 98 miles is basically the same as far as "new" was. Absolutely no regrets.
I have no idea how someone adds $45k in options to a car like a 911 but that's insane. I thought GT3s usually trade in the $180k-$200k range, the big difference is that they hardly depreciate compared to other 911 trims, even more so the RS models.

The previous owner of your car seems like he had more money than he knew what to do with, for that kind of cash he should have bought the turbo...

Agreed that the GT3 doesn't make sense for street use.
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I have no idea how someone adds $45k in options to a car like a 911 but that's insane. I thought GT3s usually trade in the $180k-$200k range, the big difference is that they hardly depreciate compared to other 911 trims, even more so the RS models.

The previous owner of your car seems like he had more money than he knew what to do with, for that kind of cash he should have bought the turbo...

Agreed that the GT3 doesn't make sense for street use.
Reminds me of seeing what I thought was a GT3 on my commute home, years ago.
Had a larger than normal wing on the back & from a distance looked like an oddly modified 911.
Got closer & could see the whole car would buck a bit over the expansion joints on the highway, got closer still & saw the Ruf badge on the rear deck
DDing a racecar, effectively. Looked miserable to drive on the highway (and probably worse on surface streets) but I bet it was sublime on track.
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The previous owner of your car seems like he had more money than he knew what to do with, for that kind of cash he should have bought the turbo...
Well he was a lawyer and had about 6 cars. It is easy to buy these cars when you have money. In my case, I am a tech at the opposite end of the salary range and it took passion...and a long weekend to think about it. The following is probably why he didn't buy a Turbo or Turbo S.

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Agreed that the GT3 doesn't make sense for street use.
He ended up buying a GT3 Touring at the dealer where he had the GTS on consignment. And I am assuming a 7-speed manual whereas a Turbo or Turbo S is only available with a PDK.

I might have gone for a Turbo S (I am used to motorcycles with plenty of kick) but no way I want PDK. You know these high HP cars are a status symbol because you really can't use them on public roads plus your average driver (me and 99.9% of other drivers) are not capable of taking them remotely close to the limit.

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DDing a racecar, effectively. Looked miserable to drive on the highway (and probably worse on surface streets) but I bet it was sublime on track.
Someone I knew was into spectating at rallies. He had a daily driver Subaru that he modified. All I can say is I have real teeth and I could have used a tube of Dent-U-Grip. No thanks, what a piss-poor ride even if you liked a sport suspension. That wears thin after a few miles. He even said he went overboard...like big time.
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@Tech - thanks for some of those insights. And I can definitely see the issue with actually buying a car that's more livable as a DD/often driven car vs hardcore race car.

I feel like kids and those who don't have to live with say a GT3 everyday SAY they would DD a racecar....but seems like unless you are truly super rich to afford a 200k car as an occasional fun toy OR one of the few who actually can tolerate such a car day to day (until their back gives out...lol)


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