Maybe Honda realizes refreshing the RL won't help, so why waste the time, money and effort involved.

And last I checked this thread was about the M. I was never a fan of the that rear end. Looks better now.

 

all new Q coming in '09

 

Yep... and I can't wait. We know that a new engine will accompany the car. There's speculation that the Q moniker might be changed... I hope not though. The Q name has great heritage in this market.

 

Hope they can make it the Q50 or something else. My cousin got confused when my folks first had the I35. She thought it was the G35 and when she saw it the I35 the first time she had this shocked and disappointed look on her face. A few months later my folks traded in the I35 for a G35 because the I35 had the crappiest turn radius ever.

 

Indeed, the A33 had the turning radius of a oil tanker.

 

so does the TSX, in fact they have the same turning radius, and the TSX is a compact car.

 

yeah i've driven both. the TSX does have a bad turn radius, not as bad as the I35 did though. to prove it, i did a U-turn with the TSX and it wasn't that bad, but worse than my old 99 Accord. at least with the TSX i didn't have to stop, reverse, and go back to drive again unlike the I35, geez that was horrible. great car with the sunshade, but only con was the bad turn radius.

 

i think it is a FWD thing. The RWD cars I've driven all have great turning radii. My aunt's huge-ass mb 560sel has a better turning radius than my old cl-s did.

 

since there will be a slight refresh of the 2008 M35/M45, will the resale value of the 06-07 M35/M45 be hurt by this at all?

 

it's expected that any production car from any automaker will depreciate, whether it be due to a refresh, replacement, or just time. But i think a refresh actually helps slow depreciation because it brings a spike in sale and keeps the model's popularity consistent on the market whether it be the refreshed or non-refreshed version.

OTOH, letting a model languish as-is for 4-5 years hurts because sales/popularity tapers off and bottom out, so no one notices that model towards the end of its life which adds to depreciation.

 

Good analysis, but it's still hard to predict. It's all driven by supply and demand -- obviously. How can you predict that? There's too many variables.

What if the M is refreshed next year and it's generally not liked? Well, that could actually make low mileage 07's more desirable. The opposite can just as easily happen. Also, incentives, and general trends in the entire segment, can effect things. The only thing I've seen that will guaranteed hurt resale value is when a manufacturer starts throwing incentives on a model (effectively reducing the price). It ripples INSTANTLY into the used market for those same cars. Good news is it rebounds when those incentives go away.

Bottom line; save the brain cells to worry about something else. If you like a car, buy it. When you amatorize the monthly money made or lost from differences in resale value, it comes out to be small stuff compared to your monthly payment.

 

FX50 is getting 390bhp, so I am hoping the M50 will get about 420bhp, that would be something

 

how do u know? that would be sweet!!!
they might as well do a G37 TT or G50

 

Apparently not.....quote from someone who has a good friend in Corp. Nissan Canada (also has a source in Nissan U.S.).

"You'll see the next generation FX for MY09, but definitely no Q or other iteration of it."

 

No, a slight refresh on a current body style does not hurt resale values.

Remember...most people are buying used because they don't want to buy new for any number of reasons and with that they generally aren't that picky.

 

love the refresh!

warmed up to the current tail lights but never did with nissan/infiniti's grill with the teeth.

 

infiniti never had tooth grille

 

current model:



Kinda looks like fangs in this color...but not noticable in darker colors.

 

if you look closer at the grill for the current M, FX, and previous G, you'll see the teeth inside.

http://www.jimdiamondmd.com/photogallery/IMG_3097.JPG

 

lol....now i notice it...and now i'll notice it every time i see these cars

 

You know, i wouldn't ever think of those things as teeth, especially since they are so unnoticable.

 

I never noticed that. At least it looks better and more aggresive than the Acura 5 point grille.

 

Do you mean the Honda 5 point grille?

 

well they're not as noticeable as the previous nissans. but they're there if you look for them.

for the record, i love the new grille on the new g35 and the refreshed m. the whole "samurai blade" concept is way cool.

 

 

but doesn't look like the G37 will get the samurai blade

 

2008 Infiniti M45S and M45X















M45X

 

ooh nice! only bad thing is that almost all the infiniti models look alike now from the front aside from the QX56 which I never really liked and the FX.

 

i like the original 5 spoke rims better.

 

Refresh looks damn good!

 

love it. especially the 'S' model.

 

the M has the best looking headlights in my opinion.

 

does the RL or any Acura have cooled/heated seat combo at all? i just noticed that in those pics.

 

only canadian models

 

The european Honda Legend (same car) also has a cool lane departure system that makes minor steering corrections for you -- and a few other goodies.

I think our legal system scares the Japanese. Scares me too

 

Whoa, didn't need that extra chrome lipstick on the M45's lower air dam...

 

Great refresh. Can't wait to see that in person.

 

looks better then past gen! me likey.

 

Looks better than before.

 

Looks better...still wouldn't be my first choice in the class though.