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Old 09-02-2015, 04:32 PM
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Oh, I'm not sure even if those are stock numbers guys...lol..these are numbers from people that bring their cars in....for instance, it's likely that that the E92 is brought in with some bolt-on's, and the owner wanted to get a tune from ECU performance of something?

I think the focus is more on the torque curve as we already know how fast the CTR is in a straight line. It seems like Honda tuned it to have a torque curve that is more linear, rather than focusing on high low-end and midrange torque. I guess that gives it a bit more character, so that it's sort of like K20, except with way more torque. There's still that VTEC change over at around 4000rpm (as opposed to 6000rpm in a 8000rpm Honda engine), for instance.

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Civic Coupe model spotted -

http://www.civicx.com/threads/2016-h...-up-close.106/

Interior looks like a huge upgrade over any previous Civic.
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[cartalk]Looks like an econobox. I'll take a $15k 335i instead.[/cartalk]
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Front end, not bad.
Wheels look like aftermarket.
Not feeling the taillight extension onto the trunk lid.
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Not too bad. Although that grille isn't looking so great. Headlights look very Mazda 3 ish.
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Not feeling that grille, but the over stance is great. The wheel design is fine for me, but look a bit too small. The wheel gap is better than other Honda products but still too large for my taste. I thought the rear end looks quite nice. It has way more road presence than the 9th gen civic. Heck, it almost looks as large as an Accord!
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Last I checked, the Accord Crosstour sold like shit. Now Honda went out and made the civic look the same.

I'm 99.8% positive that Honda is doing everything in their power to become the next big automotive fuck up. That, or other manufacturers have secretly planted their own employees within Honda, to bring them down. I'm not sure which it is, but I'm sure we'll find out eventually....
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Only thing that bugs me about the front is how the grille looks like it extends into the headlights. Hopefully it's just a bad angle or reflection.

Front fender curve/swoop looks a bit Mazda-ish to me.

It definitely has a more mature grown up look to it.

Originally Posted by Joneill44
Need a straight ahead shot of the rear, but not liking it so far. Rear 1/4 panel reminds me of the Crosstour with a bit of ILX at this angle.
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Is that chrome grill extending out to the edges of headlight?

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Originally Posted by TacoBello
Last I checked, the Accord Crosstour sold like shit. Now Honda went out and made the civic look the same.

I'm 99.8% positive that Honda is doing everything in their power to become the next big automotive fuck up. That, or other manufacturers have secretly planted their own employees within Honda, to bring them down. I'm not sure which it is, but I'm sure we'll find out eventually....
lol based on feedback here so far, people don't really seem to think it looks anything like a crosstour......
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Look two posts up, lol.

When the 8th gen civic came out, I think back in 2005 or 2006, i was like "wow. That is a nice change from the previous gen!"

The 9th and 10th gens just look odd now. Maybe I'm just stuck in my ways.
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Originally Posted by iforyou
lol based on feedback here so far, people don't really seem to think it looks anything like a crosstour......






I dunno, man...
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The side profile looks pretty elegant for this class, almost Audi A7 like.



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except A7 is low and wide. THe civic is tall and narrow.
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Originally Posted by JS + BRZ
Is that chrome grill extending out to the edges of headlight?
Sure looks that way based on the concept Honda showed us at the NY Auto Show, though Honda minimized the ugly by painting it black


The ugly's more noticeable in chrome


If I had one, the 1st thing I'd do is paint the grille black like on the concept or color match the headlight section of it to the car's body color.

Why, Honda, why? Why'd you have to give it a unibrow?
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I think it looks decent enough as an econobox. It would be interesting to see how Si and Type-R look.
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So many fwd haters, yet have any of you ever autocrossed or tracked a well built fwd car? I bet answer is no.

My fwd honda with 300 HP can beat a C7 vette with 450 hp at autocross and at my local tracks.

Civic type r can beat m3 and M4.

Everyone wants to just talk about Focus RS. I'd take type R over Focus any day of week..

I have Focus ST so I know more than most ppl. Can't wait to sell my ST for Civic.

I wanted to like Ford, but their material quality, build quality, and reliability suck. That is why Ford can price it's cars so cheap.

I bet every single part on Civic is better material and build quality over Focus. Something that typical buyers and azine posters could never even spot.. Smart for American companies to cut corners when consumers are too dumb to realize when corners are being cut.

So many sports cars cone without limited slip differentials because consumers don't even know what it is and would complain of higher base price.

Honda could cheap out like Ford and other companies by just doing torque vectoring through braking, but instead they add lsd that costs more but makes car faster. Focus ST with its torque vectoring over uses and over heats brakes. Could use a lsd but that would add 2 grand to cars price, which ford would never do.

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Originally Posted by brian6speed
So many fwd haters, yet have any of you ever autocrossed or tracked a well built fwd car? I bet answer is no.

My fwd honda with 300 HP can beat a C7 vette with 450 hp at autocross and at my local tracks.

Civic type r can beat m3 and M4.

Everyone wants to just talk about Focus RS. I'd take type R over Focus any day of week..

I have Focus ST so I know more than most ppl. Can't wait to sell my ST for Civic.

I wanted to like Ford, but their material quality, build quality, and reliability suck. That is why Ford can price it's cars so cheap.

I bet every single part on Civic is better material and build quality over Focus. Something that typical buyers and azine posters could never even spot.. Smart for American companies to cut corners when consumers are too dumb to realize when corners are being cut.

So many sports cars cone without limited slip differentials because consumers don't even know what it is and would complain of higher base price.

Honda could cheap out like Ford and other companies by just doing torque vectoring through braking, but instead they add lsd that costs more but makes car faster. Focus ST with its torque vectoring over uses and over heats brakes. Could use a lsd but that would add 2 grand to cars price, which ford would never do.
Who the fuck said anything about FWD sucking? Great, your 300hp car can beat a 450hp car on the track. That's the same story for countless numbers of cars, regardless if FWD, AWD or RWD. The biggest problem is weight. I'm sure your 15 year old car is lighter than a new c7. I'm sure it also helps that you stripped several hundred pounds out of your car. Do that with the c7 and report back.

And as you put it, your "well built" FWD car is beating a stock c7. Want a cookie? The problem with the high HP cars, again, is their weight. Yes, they can accelerate like motherfuckers, but it takes longer to brake and there's more weight being pushed through a corner, generally resulting in slower cornering speeds. It's not fucking rocket science.

Fucking guy, trolling again

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Originally Posted by TacoBello
Who the fuck said anything about FWD sucking? Great, your 300hp car can beat a 450hp car on the track. That's the same story for countless numbers of cars, regardless if FWD, AWD or RWD. The biggest problem is weight. I'm sure your 15 year old car is lighter than a new c7. I'm sure it also helps that you stripped several hundred pounds out of your car. Do that with the c7 and report back.

And as you put it, your "well built" FWD car is beating a stock c7. Want a cookie? The problem with the high HP cars, again, is their weight. Yes, they can accelerate like motherfuckers, but it takes longer to brake and there's more weight being pushed through a corner, generally resulting in slower cornering speeds. It's not fucking rocket science.

Fucking guy, trolling again
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So I guess we all know how the new redesigned ILX will look like in a couple of years
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
Look two posts up, lol.

When the 8th gen civic came out, I think back in 2005 or 2006, i was like "wow. That is a nice change from the previous gen!"

The 9th and 10th gens just look odd now. Maybe I'm just stuck in my ways.

Ah, I see that Crosstour comment now!
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Originally Posted by brian6speed
So many fwd haters, yet have any of you ever autocrossed or tracked a well built fwd car? I bet answer is no.

My fwd honda with 300 HP can beat a C7 vette with 450 hp at autocross and at my local tracks.

Civic type r can beat m3 and M4.

Everyone wants to just talk about Focus RS. I'd take type R over Focus any day of week..

I have Focus ST so I know more than most ppl. Can't wait to sell my ST for Civic.

I wanted to like Ford, but their material quality, build quality, and reliability suck. That is why Ford can price it's cars so cheap.

I bet every single part on Civic is better material and build quality over Focus. Something that typical buyers and azine posters could never even spot.. Smart for American companies to cut corners when consumers are too dumb to realize when corners are being cut.

So many sports cars cone without limited slip differentials because consumers don't even know what it is and would complain of higher base price.

Honda could cheap out like Ford and other companies by just doing torque vectoring through braking, but instead they add lsd that costs more but makes car faster. Focus ST with its torque vectoring over uses and over heats brakes. Could use a lsd but that would add 2 grand to cars price, which ford would never do.
i can make a FWD corolla run circles around C7.. just give me some $$ and i can make it happen...
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The end product looks a lot like the FCX which is to me.
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Press Release

Honda Debuts Dynamic New 10th Generation Civic Sedan for North America: The Most Ambitious Remake of Civic Ever

• Two new powertrains, including first Honda turbo engine in U.S.
• Available Honda Sensing™ technologies
• Compatible with Apple CarPlay®, the smarter, simpler way to use your iPhone in the car
• Also supports Android Auto™
• New styling includes significant use of LED lighting
• New platform and package yields largest cabin in compact class

LOS ANGELES, Sept. 16, 2015 – Honda took to YouTube today to unveil an all-new, dynamically styled 10th-generation 2016 Civic Sedan, slated for sale in the U.S. this fall. With a more athletic stance and sportier driving position, the 2016 Civic Sedan is a new-from-the-ground-up design intended to recapture the sporty character of Civic while creating the world's best compact car – setting a new benchmark in the mainstream compact class for fun-to-drive performance, safety performance and fuel efficiency, together with a new level of refinement.

The Civic Sedan is the first in a series of new 10th-generation Civic models that will include a sedan, coupe, high-performance Si models, a 5-door hatchback and the first-ever Civic Type-R model for the U.S. market, comprising the most diverse and innovative lineup in Civic's 43-year history.

"This tenth-generation Civic is quite simply the most ambitious remake of Civic we've ever done," said John Mendel, executive vice president of American Honda Motor Co, Inc. "We are bringing more new technology and innovative thinking to Civic than ever before to establish a new benchmark for fun-to-drive performance, fuel efficiency, safety performance and refinement in the compact class."

Backing up the new Civic's dramatic and sporty design with new power and efficiency, for the first time the 2016 Civic will feature two all-new engines – including the first-ever application of Honda turbo engine technology in the U.S. These powerful and fuel-efficient new engines combine with a sophisticated new body and chassis design to deliver incredibly responsive and sporty performance with a higher level of ride refinement and class-leading fuel efficiency.

The 2016 Civic Sedan will be available with the Honda Sensing™ suite of advanced safety and driver-assistive technologies, including Collision Mitigation Braking, Road Departure Mitigation and, for the first time in a Honda, Adaptive Cruise Control with Low-Speed Follow – bringing new value to the compact segment.

Further, the 2016 Civic lineup joins the freshened 2016 Accord in offering advanced smartphone integration with a new, 7-inch high-definition Display Audio touchscreen, offering tech-savvy customers a more advanced and intuitive connected-car experience.

Apple CarPlay® takes the things you want to do with your iPhone while driving and puts them right on your car's built-in display. You can get directions, make calls, send and receive messages, and listen to music right from the touchscreen or by voice via Siri. Supported apps include Phone, Messages, Maps, Music and compatible third party apps. Apple CarPlay® is compatible with iOS 8.4 or later and iPhone 5 or later.
Android Auto™ was designed to give drivers a simple, intuitive way through touch and voice to minimize the potential for distraction so the driver can stay focused on the road. Compatible with Android 5.0 and higher, Android Auto features Google Maps, Google Now, messaging, music and numerous popular apps.

Sporty Civic Design

The dramatic and sporty new Civic design is grounded in its more athletic stance and low and wide proportions. Compared to the current model, the 2016 Civic Sedan is nearly 2 inches wider and 1 inch lower with a 1.2-inch longer wheelbase, featuring a more compact and sporty front overhang, a longer, more aggressively sculpted hood and fastback-style tail.

The taut and tidy proportions of the new Civic Sedan are complemented and accentuated by refined design details, including sleek and swept-back bodylines, a sharp and aggressive face and bulging wheel arches. The new Civic's more premium compact sedan character is also highlighted by its available LED exterior lighting, including new Honda LED headlights (in-line type), LED daytime running lights (standard) and distinctive C-shaped LED taillights (also standard).

"The new Civic really is the embodiment of our global design team's goal of styling a dramatic form that follows and speaks to the dynamic function of this ambitious redesign," said Jarad Hall, Senior Exterior Designer and project leader of the Civic Sedan, Honda R&D Americas. "The low and wide proportions, with the wheels pushed to the outmost corners, emphasize the Civic's dynamic handling prowess and give the car a crouched and muscular look, like a tiger ready to pounce."

Two All-new Engines

The 2016 Civic Sedan will feature two all-new, more powerful and fuel-efficient engines. Civic Sedan LX and EX trims will be powered by a 2.0-liter, 16-valve, DOHC i-VTEC™ 4-cylinder – the most powerful base engine ever offered on Civic – mated to either a 6-speed manual (LX trim) or continuously variable automatic transmission (CVT). Civic Sedans in EX-T, EX-L trims and Touring trims will be powered by a 1.5-liter, direct-injected and turbocharged 16-valve DOHC inline-4, mated to a unique CVT, delivering a new level of responsiveness in this capacity class of turbocharged engine.

The new 1.5-liter powerplant is the first turbocharged engine on a U.S. Honda model and the most powerful engine ever offered on a non-Si Civic in America. Both engines will offer top-in-class performance and fuel efficiency, and are targeted to recieve EPA highway fuel economy ratings in excess of 40 mpg. Additional powertrain details and specifications will be announced closer to launch.

Advanced and Sporty New Body and Chassis

The 2016 Civic will set a new standard for dynamic handling, steering, ride quality and cabin quietness in the compact class, courtesy of its all new platform, featuring the most rigid and tightly sealed body and the most sophisticated chassis in Civic history.

Advancing the sporty character of this all-new Civic is its more sporty driving position, with a one-inch lower hip point compared to the current car. The lower hip point is enabled by the new Civic's lower floor and engine and its all-new suspension design. The new Civic chassis features a redesigned strut front suspension and a new multi-link rear suspension mounted to an ultra-rigid rear subframe.

Torsional rigidity of the new body is improved by 25 percent, aided in part by more intensive use of ultra-high-strength steel. Twelve percent of the unit body is made of ultra-high-strength steel, up from 1percent on the current model. Aerodynamic efficiency is improved by 12 percent to class-leading levels, in part through the use of full underbody covers—a Civic first. Despite its larger size, the new Civic unit body is 68 pounds lighter than before, while new body-sealing techniques result in a 58-percent reduction in cabin air leaks. Class-leading cabin quietness is further improved by the use of premium noise-reducing features, including a flush-mounted acoustic glass windshield, a more tightly sealed engine compartment and triple-sealed doors.

To achieve the Civic development team's high targets for dynamic performance and refined ride quality, the new Civic Sedan utilizes hydraulic compliance bushings, a technology typically reserved for more expensive vehicles, aiding the isolation of road vibration. Additional new chassis technologies include variable gear ratio steering, beefier front and rear stabilizer bars and standard 4-wheel disc brakes, along with the application of new Agile Handling Assist brake-torque vectoring technology for more precise and agile cornering.

Spacious, Sophisticated and Advanced Cabin

The new Civic interior is designed to offer the most comfortable, sophisticated and premium-feeling cabin in the compact class. An additional 3.7 cubic feet of interior space translates into the largest cabin in the compact segment with 2 inches of added rear-seat legroom versus the outgoing model. In front, new ultra-thin front roof pillars enable class-leading forward visibility; and at the rear, trunk space has been increased by 2.6 cubic feet with a lower liftover height, larger opening and wider and taller cargo area. Civic Sedan EX and above trims will feature a 60/40 split and folding rear seat.

The 2016 Civic Sedan offers customers more premium features than ever before. New standard equipment includes automatic climate control – dual-zone on EX-L and higher trims; auto-up/down front power windows; an electronic parking brake with Brake Hold; Walk-Away auto door locks and an adjustable driver's seat thigh support with 14 degrees of tilt. All Civic Sedan models also feature a larger, reconfigurable new center console with up to 7.2 liters of secure storage space, approaching SUV levels of console utility.

The new Civic interior strikes a more premium tone with high-quality materials and high-contrast finishes. These include a new one-piece, soft-touch instrumental panel with molded stitching; more premium seat fabrics; a new full-color TFT center meter (EX and above trims); a center console with piano black finish and high-contrast sliver bezel; door inserts with live stitching; an LED shift indicator and LED overhead lighting; and for EX and higher trims, a leather shift boot. Upper grades offer even more premium features, including a 8-way power adjustable driver's seat, 4-way power front passenger's seat, heated front and rear seats and heated side mirrors.

Civic Manufacturing

Civic Sedans for the North American market will be produced at the company's Greensburg, Indiana and Alliston, Ontario, Canada auto plants. The new Civic's 2.0-liter and 1.5-liter turbo engines will be manufactured in Anna, Ohio, and the vehicle's two automatic transmissions (CVTs) will be sourced from Honda plants in Russells Point, Ohio, and Celaya, Mexico.

The new Civic utilizes numerous new manufacturing processes and technologies to advance quality, efficiency and fun-to-drive performance – the result of new investment in Honda automobile and engine plants in North America. This includes the addition of the company's innovative new inner-frame weld body construction process in both Indiana and Canada, a system first utilized for production of the 2015 Honda Fit. This new general weld system creates a more lightweight, rigid and strong body structure that helps enable the Civic's class-leading fuel efficiency, outstanding safety performance and fun-to-drive experience.
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Manual available only on LX trim. Everything else CVT only.


Best in class ground clearance?


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Love the simplicity of the interior. Much better than the ILX.
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while the exterior is ......

but i like the added feature list. Assuming Si will also get these added features, which make ILX even less appealing.

More importantly they finally moved the tech meter back where it should be!!!

It was "cool" to have speedometer at a different location when my gf first got her 08 civic. after many years, it has gotten very annoying!
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
while the exterior is ......

but i like the added feature list. Assuming Si will also get these added features, which make ILX even less appealing.

More importantly they finally moved the tech meter back where it should be!!!

It was "cool" to have speedometer at a different location when my gf first got her 08 civic. after many years, it has gotten very annoying!
With this new Civic being so much better than the 9th gen, should be very interesting to see how Acura handles the next ILX design.
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I do like the interior....much better than the previous gen.
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Looks like they finally took their heads out of their asses in the engine dept. Class leading power and FE. The 1.5 is rumored to make 174HP and still get over 40 MPG. The 2.0 158HP and also over 40MPG

Front end and interior are nice....Just really not sure about that back end. I doubt it will age well.
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I like the exterior front but not the rear. Too chunky IMO
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The front end would be great if it didn't have that HUGE CHROME BEAK.

The interior looks nice, though. Good job there.


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