BMW: 5-Series News
01-23-2007, 11:48 AM
#1087
Senior Moderator
Originally Posted by charliemike
But is it wrong? 
I hope so. I love the styling of the current 5. And I seriously doubt BMW will make the 5 look this similar to the 3.
01-23-2007, 02:11 PM
#1088
Fahrvergnügen'd
Originally Posted by gavriil
If the 4.8L used in the 550 today were to keep the 550 denotation, what would you guys call the 4.4L Twin Turbo coming in the lineup? And that's just one example.
BMW 535i - 3.0L 6cyl TT
BMW 545i - 4.8L V8
BMW 550i - 4.4L V8 TT
BMW M5 - Whatever.
Otherwise it makes no GD sense.
02-03-2007, 08:13 PM
#1093
Originally Posted by EuRTSX
I like the current 5 series more..
08-17-2007, 11:09 AM
#1097
Senior Moderator
BMW sedan performs worst in crash test
Oops.
Ugly and dangerous.
From Yahoo! news...
Ugly and dangerous.
From Yahoo! news...
DETROIT - The 2008 BMW 5 Series was the worst performer in new side-impact crash tests of luxury sedans by the insurance industry.
The Acura RL, Kia Amanti and Volvo S80 all earned the highest safety rating from the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, according to results released Thursday. The Cadillac STS and Mercedes E-Class earned the second-highest rating.
The tests were designed to show what would happen if a truck or sport utility vehicle hit the side of the sedan at 31 mph, the speed of a serious crash. Side-impact crashes are the most common type of fatal crash after a frontal crash, killing around 9,000 people on U.S. roadways in 2005, the institute said.
"Growing sales of SUVs and pickups have exacerbated height mismatches among passenger vehicles, thereby increasing the risks to occupants of many vehicles struck in the side," Insurance Institute President Adrian Lund said in a news release.
All six sedans were equipped with standard side air bags. The air bags in the BMW 5 Series protected the head, but separate air bags designed to protect the chest and abdomen performed poorly, the institute said.
BMW spokesman Thomas Plucinsky said the institute's test indicated the 5 Series has a strong body structure but the dummy was injured when it was hit by the arm rest. Plucinsky said BMW does up to 12 crash tests on all its cars as well as computer simulations of crashes.
"The issue is that depending on the location of seat, the location of dummy, the location of the sled, the results could change," he said. "This was one test on one day on one car."
The Kia Amanti was one of the lowest priced sedans in the group, with a starting price of around $25,500, but it offered greater protection than more expensive entries. The BMW 5 Series starts at $43,500, while the Mercedes E-Class starts at $50,550, according to automotive research site Edmunds.com.
"The Amanti shows that you don't have to buy an expensive car to get good protection in crashes with SUVs and pickups," Lund said.
The Volvo S80 also won the institute's top safety award for overall crash protection, since it got the highest ratings in front, side and rear crash tests and has electronic stability control as standard equipment. Stability control helps prevent rollovers. The 2007 Volvo S80 starts at $47,350, according to Edmunds.
All of the sedans tested were 2007 models except the 5 Series, which was redesigned for 2008, institute spokesman Russ Rader said.
The Acura RL, Kia Amanti and Volvo S80 all earned the highest safety rating from the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, according to results released Thursday. The Cadillac STS and Mercedes E-Class earned the second-highest rating.
The tests were designed to show what would happen if a truck or sport utility vehicle hit the side of the sedan at 31 mph, the speed of a serious crash. Side-impact crashes are the most common type of fatal crash after a frontal crash, killing around 9,000 people on U.S. roadways in 2005, the institute said.
"Growing sales of SUVs and pickups have exacerbated height mismatches among passenger vehicles, thereby increasing the risks to occupants of many vehicles struck in the side," Insurance Institute President Adrian Lund said in a news release.
All six sedans were equipped with standard side air bags. The air bags in the BMW 5 Series protected the head, but separate air bags designed to protect the chest and abdomen performed poorly, the institute said.
BMW spokesman Thomas Plucinsky said the institute's test indicated the 5 Series has a strong body structure but the dummy was injured when it was hit by the arm rest. Plucinsky said BMW does up to 12 crash tests on all its cars as well as computer simulations of crashes.
"The issue is that depending on the location of seat, the location of dummy, the location of the sled, the results could change," he said. "This was one test on one day on one car."
The Kia Amanti was one of the lowest priced sedans in the group, with a starting price of around $25,500, but it offered greater protection than more expensive entries. The BMW 5 Series starts at $43,500, while the Mercedes E-Class starts at $50,550, according to automotive research site Edmunds.com.
"The Amanti shows that you don't have to buy an expensive car to get good protection in crashes with SUVs and pickups," Lund said.
The Volvo S80 also won the institute's top safety award for overall crash protection, since it got the highest ratings in front, side and rear crash tests and has electronic stability control as standard equipment. Stability control helps prevent rollovers. The 2007 Volvo S80 starts at $47,350, according to Edmunds.
All of the sedans tested were 2007 models except the 5 Series, which was redesigned for 2008, institute spokesman Russ Rader said.
10-17-2007, 05:49 PM
#1098
Pro
NY times recommend 535 over 550
By the way, I have a 528i on order. It's a great looking car. Even with 230 HP it drives well. Just hope won't get hit on the side.
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Article:
ONCE companies roll out an all-new car, they usually sell it for five or six years before it undergoes a full redesign.
At the rough midpoint of that cycle, the model will be “refreshed.” This refers not to pouring mojitos in the tank, but to modest changes that keep consumers buying until the next all-new model shows up. The refreshing will include subtle refinements to the body and interior, the latest gadgets, maybe a new powertrain option.
As you might deduce, these models aren’t as significant as a redesign. Yet occasionally there’s an addition worth trumpeting. For the BMW 5 Series, the refreshing news for 2008 is an engine. Not just any engine, but one so marvelous that I’d urge anyone to skip the others that are available.
This thrill-a-minute in-line 6 — with 3 liters, 2 turbochargers, 300 horsepower and 300 pound-feet of torque — was introduced for 2006 on BMW’s smaller 3 Series. And like the bears’ proverbial porridge, it delivers just-right heat for the rear-drive 535i and the all-wheel-drive 535xi. Both are ridiculously stronger than the 230-horsepower base models (the 528i and 528xi), with identical mileage: 17/25 in city and highway driving.
And compared with the V-8 version of the 5 Series, the 550i, they are lighter, cost several thousand dollars less and are almost as quick.
While the basic automatic-transmission 528xi takes a snoozy 7.6 seconds to reach 60 miles an hour, the 535xi blazes there in 5.6 seconds, a remarkable two-second advantage. Despite having 360 horsepower, the burly V-8 model is basically neck-and-neck at 5.5 seconds.
The engine is so good that you could drop it into a rusty Chevy Cavalier and you’d still want the car. And its neatest trick, besides its free-revving brilliance, is to remind you of what a definitive sport sedan the 5 Series can be — despite a lofty price, screwy ergonomics and styling that can still provoke bar brawls.
I tested a 535xi for a week. And with weighty all-wheel-drive, smallish 17-inch wheels and less-gummy all-season tires that accompany it, this was hardly the sportiest version. Yet even this ostensibly tamer BMW attacked downhill descents on the Taconic Parkway north of New York City at speeds that would have cowed most competitors.
Piloting the 5 Series feels so natural that you barely notice turning the grippy, well-designed steering wheel; it’s more like flexing muscles in your palms and fingers, and the BMW anticipates where you’re headed. The ride is luxurious, the cabin quiet.
Another win: The 535i weighs 3,703 pounds, versus 3,968 for the 550i, giving it a handling edge; even the all-wheel-drive model weighs less at 3,946 pounds.
The BMW’s drawbacks, often documented, cannot be overlooked. The clumsy iDrive knob remains the most illogical, ill-conceived systems controller from any car company. And the 5 Series’ cold, synthetic-looking interior badly needs a makeover; higher-quality seat leather would be a good start.
The other big change for 2008 is the spacey looking (and somewhat spacey acting) console shifter for the six-speed automatic, bequeathed from the new X5 sport wagon. It’s clumsy to press the shifter’s side button to toggle forward for reverse, back for drive. But the lever works beautifully when you use it to shift gears manually.
For the 2008 model year, all 5 Series cars get a barely discernable makeover for the front fascia, headlamps and taillamps. A restyled center console features six memory buttons that store all manner of presets: radio stations, navigation destinations, phone numbers. New options include a U.S.B. and iPod integration kit, adaptive cruise control and a lane-departure warning system that vibrates the steering wheel when the car starts to drift from its lane.
The 535i ($50,175) and 535xi ($52,375) start at $5,100 more than the respective base models. But they cost $7,000 to $9,000 less than the big-daddy 550i.
A generous array of options kicked my 535xi to $61,825. Once again, the BMW premium rears its head.
Since it’s impossible to drive a 5 Series and pretend you didn’t enjoy it, I’m determined to end on an up note. Or on two notes: BMW has consistently ranked first or a close second among luxury brands for resale value, according to Automotive Lease Guide. And while its rivals have dropped free-maintenance perks, BMW continues to cover scheduled maintenance for four years or 50,000 miles, including unexpected wear items like brakes.
Along with the smartly configured 535 versions, those are two more practical reasons to splurge on a 5 Series.
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Article:
ONCE companies roll out an all-new car, they usually sell it for five or six years before it undergoes a full redesign.
At the rough midpoint of that cycle, the model will be “refreshed.” This refers not to pouring mojitos in the tank, but to modest changes that keep consumers buying until the next all-new model shows up. The refreshing will include subtle refinements to the body and interior, the latest gadgets, maybe a new powertrain option.
As you might deduce, these models aren’t as significant as a redesign. Yet occasionally there’s an addition worth trumpeting. For the BMW 5 Series, the refreshing news for 2008 is an engine. Not just any engine, but one so marvelous that I’d urge anyone to skip the others that are available.
This thrill-a-minute in-line 6 — with 3 liters, 2 turbochargers, 300 horsepower and 300 pound-feet of torque — was introduced for 2006 on BMW’s smaller 3 Series. And like the bears’ proverbial porridge, it delivers just-right heat for the rear-drive 535i and the all-wheel-drive 535xi. Both are ridiculously stronger than the 230-horsepower base models (the 528i and 528xi), with identical mileage: 17/25 in city and highway driving.
And compared with the V-8 version of the 5 Series, the 550i, they are lighter, cost several thousand dollars less and are almost as quick.
While the basic automatic-transmission 528xi takes a snoozy 7.6 seconds to reach 60 miles an hour, the 535xi blazes there in 5.6 seconds, a remarkable two-second advantage. Despite having 360 horsepower, the burly V-8 model is basically neck-and-neck at 5.5 seconds.
The engine is so good that you could drop it into a rusty Chevy Cavalier and you’d still want the car. And its neatest trick, besides its free-revving brilliance, is to remind you of what a definitive sport sedan the 5 Series can be — despite a lofty price, screwy ergonomics and styling that can still provoke bar brawls.
I tested a 535xi for a week. And with weighty all-wheel-drive, smallish 17-inch wheels and less-gummy all-season tires that accompany it, this was hardly the sportiest version. Yet even this ostensibly tamer BMW attacked downhill descents on the Taconic Parkway north of New York City at speeds that would have cowed most competitors.
Piloting the 5 Series feels so natural that you barely notice turning the grippy, well-designed steering wheel; it’s more like flexing muscles in your palms and fingers, and the BMW anticipates where you’re headed. The ride is luxurious, the cabin quiet.
Another win: The 535i weighs 3,703 pounds, versus 3,968 for the 550i, giving it a handling edge; even the all-wheel-drive model weighs less at 3,946 pounds.
The BMW’s drawbacks, often documented, cannot be overlooked. The clumsy iDrive knob remains the most illogical, ill-conceived systems controller from any car company. And the 5 Series’ cold, synthetic-looking interior badly needs a makeover; higher-quality seat leather would be a good start.
The other big change for 2008 is the spacey looking (and somewhat spacey acting) console shifter for the six-speed automatic, bequeathed from the new X5 sport wagon. It’s clumsy to press the shifter’s side button to toggle forward for reverse, back for drive. But the lever works beautifully when you use it to shift gears manually.
For the 2008 model year, all 5 Series cars get a barely discernable makeover for the front fascia, headlamps and taillamps. A restyled center console features six memory buttons that store all manner of presets: radio stations, navigation destinations, phone numbers. New options include a U.S.B. and iPod integration kit, adaptive cruise control and a lane-departure warning system that vibrates the steering wheel when the car starts to drift from its lane.
The 535i ($50,175) and 535xi ($52,375) start at $5,100 more than the respective base models. But they cost $7,000 to $9,000 less than the big-daddy 550i.
A generous array of options kicked my 535xi to $61,825. Once again, the BMW premium rears its head.
Since it’s impossible to drive a 5 Series and pretend you didn’t enjoy it, I’m determined to end on an up note. Or on two notes: BMW has consistently ranked first or a close second among luxury brands for resale value, according to Automotive Lease Guide. And while its rivals have dropped free-maintenance perks, BMW continues to cover scheduled maintenance for four years or 50,000 miles, including unexpected wear items like brakes.
Along with the smartly configured 535 versions, those are two more practical reasons to splurge on a 5 Series.
12-16-2007, 08:37 PM
#1099
Senior Moderator
Redesign?
From Worldcarfans...
Just in case you couldn't get enough of the new BMW 5 Series spy photos from last week, here are some fresh new ones. Also included is a new rendering, which, as a reminder, is speculative. The purpose of all of the renderings/artist illustrations that we publish is to give you an idea of the general design direction based on the latest spy photos. So don't get bent out of shape, if you think its going to look different because it most likely will.
Following the same path as the next generation 7 Series, the new BMW 5 Series will be less adventurous in its design compared to the current model. Using a new internal codename system, BMW has replaced the “E” designation (i.e. E60 for current 5 Series plartform) with “F” for the next generation 5-Series. Known internally as the “F10”, the new mid-size luxury sedan is the second new BMW model to receive the new code after the F01 BMW 7 Series which arrives in 2009.
The F10 5 Series will be equipped with a new 8-speed electronic automatic transmission, optional all-wheel-drive and engine ranging from six petrol engines, 2.5-liter 218hp to 4.4 liter V8 twin-turbo with 408hp and four diesels ranging from 2.0 liter 175hp to 3.0 liter 300hp.
With the current E60 5-Series on the market since 2004, the arrival of the F10 replacement is still three years away with an expected launch in spring 2010 as a 2011 model.
Following the same path as the next generation 7 Series, the new BMW 5 Series will be less adventurous in its design compared to the current model. Using a new internal codename system, BMW has replaced the “E” designation (i.e. E60 for current 5 Series plartform) with “F” for the next generation 5-Series. Known internally as the “F10”, the new mid-size luxury sedan is the second new BMW model to receive the new code after the F01 BMW 7 Series which arrives in 2009.
The F10 5 Series will be equipped with a new 8-speed electronic automatic transmission, optional all-wheel-drive and engine ranging from six petrol engines, 2.5-liter 218hp to 4.4 liter V8 twin-turbo with 408hp and four diesels ranging from 2.0 liter 175hp to 3.0 liter 300hp.
With the current E60 5-Series on the market since 2004, the arrival of the F10 replacement is still three years away with an expected launch in spring 2010 as a 2011 model.
12-16-2007, 08:38 PM
#1100
Senior Moderator
12-16-2007, 08:38 PM
#1101
Senior Moderator
12-16-2007, 09:01 PM
#1102
Suzuka Master
they're just spyshots, but from the general shape, I think it'll look attractive. I'm among the really rare people that did like Bangle stuff
12-17-2007, 10:40 AM
#1104
What Would Don Draper Do?
Originally Posted by nokiaman
they're just spyshots, but from the general shape, I think it'll look attractive. I'm among the really rare people that did like Bangle stuff
but i'll wait for judgement until official pics are released.
01-30-2008, 05:23 PM
#1107
Senior Moderator
BMW’s 2010 5-series Sedan
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/s...2010-5-series/
When you think of luxury executive saloons, one car always comes to mind – the BMW 5-series. A class leader since its inception, the 5-series remains a crucial car in BMW’s lineup so there’s a great deal of importance surrounding the next-generation model. That car is due to arrive by late 2009 for the 2010 model year and heavily disguised prototypes have already been seen testing around the streets of Munich. These latest renderings allow us to peer under the heavy camo gear, giving us a clear indication as to what to expect for the new executive saloon.
Most of the planned changes are skin-deep. Under the new sheet metal, BMW will continue with its new found love of turbocharging. The new 4.4L twin-turbo V8 from the recently revealed X6 is expected to appear in a range topping model, while more turbo-diesel variants are expected to join the lineup as well. BMW is currently developing its second generation common rail system for its diesel powerplants, which operate at greater pressure for improved performance.
The transmission systems will include a six-speed manual and a six-speed Steptronic semi-auto gearbox, however a new eight-speed unit from ZF is also expected to be available. Coming in towards the end of 2010 will be the next-generation M5 sporting a larger displacement 5.5L V10 and possibly forced induction for extra power.
Performance will also be improved thanks to the extensive use of lightweight materials including carbon-fiber and aluminum. The car’s construction will be a hybrid of an aluminum spaceframe for the front section, and a traditional steel monocoque for the passenger compartment and rear.
This will ensure a favorable front-to-rear weight distribution and improved handling. Up front will be an independent suspension with MacPherson struts, with a multi-link layout for the rear. High-performance models will include carbon-fiber body panels to shed even more weight.
Inside, the car will have a more spacious interior, especially for rear-seat passengers, while the center console will be oriented more towards the driver and run an updated version of iDrive. Headroom will be similar to the current model, despite a shorter roof for the new car, while trunk volume will grow to 550L. Wheel sizes will range from 17, 18 and 19in, and a new electrohydraulic brake system will also be added, which will improve braking distances and stability.
When you think of luxury executive saloons, one car always comes to mind – the BMW 5-series. A class leader since its inception, the 5-series remains a crucial car in BMW’s lineup so there’s a great deal of importance surrounding the next-generation model. That car is due to arrive by late 2009 for the 2010 model year and heavily disguised prototypes have already been seen testing around the streets of Munich. These latest renderings allow us to peer under the heavy camo gear, giving us a clear indication as to what to expect for the new executive saloon.
Most of the planned changes are skin-deep. Under the new sheet metal, BMW will continue with its new found love of turbocharging. The new 4.4L twin-turbo V8 from the recently revealed X6 is expected to appear in a range topping model, while more turbo-diesel variants are expected to join the lineup as well. BMW is currently developing its second generation common rail system for its diesel powerplants, which operate at greater pressure for improved performance.
The transmission systems will include a six-speed manual and a six-speed Steptronic semi-auto gearbox, however a new eight-speed unit from ZF is also expected to be available. Coming in towards the end of 2010 will be the next-generation M5 sporting a larger displacement 5.5L V10 and possibly forced induction for extra power.
Performance will also be improved thanks to the extensive use of lightweight materials including carbon-fiber and aluminum. The car’s construction will be a hybrid of an aluminum spaceframe for the front section, and a traditional steel monocoque for the passenger compartment and rear.
This will ensure a favorable front-to-rear weight distribution and improved handling. Up front will be an independent suspension with MacPherson struts, with a multi-link layout for the rear. High-performance models will include carbon-fiber body panels to shed even more weight.
Inside, the car will have a more spacious interior, especially for rear-seat passengers, while the center console will be oriented more towards the driver and run an updated version of iDrive. Headroom will be similar to the current model, despite a shorter roof for the new car, while trunk volume will grow to 550L. Wheel sizes will range from 17, 18 and 19in, and a new electrohydraulic brake system will also be added, which will improve braking distances and stability.
01-30-2008, 05:38 PM
#1108
Senior Moderator
Merged...
01-30-2008, 09:45 PM
#1111
Senior Moderator
BMW produces 5,000,000th 5-series
From Leftlanenews...
BMW reached a major milestone yesterday, producing its 5,000,000th 5-series at its Dingolfing plant. The 5,000,000th 5-series was a Carbon Black Metallic — although it looks blue in the picture — 530d sedan.
The original 1972 E12 5-series was based on the 1970 BMW Garmisch 2002ti concept, designed by Marcello Gandini and shown at the Geneva Motor Show.
The fifth-generation 5-series has come a long way since the first-generation's range of four and six-cylinder engines. Whereas the top engine offered in the E12 5-series was a 218 horsepower six-cylinder, the current E60 car can be equipped with a 500 horsepower V10.
The original 1972 E12 5-series was based on the 1970 BMW Garmisch 2002ti concept, designed by Marcello Gandini and shown at the Geneva Motor Show.
The fifth-generation 5-series has come a long way since the first-generation's range of four and six-cylinder engines. Whereas the top engine offered in the E12 5-series was a 218 horsepower six-cylinder, the current E60 car can be equipped with a 500 horsepower V10.
01-30-2008, 09:46 PM
#1112
Senior Moderator
01-31-2008, 08:53 AM
#1114
Engineer
damn, i like it...
01-31-2008, 11:47 AM
#1116
The sizzle in the Steak
I likes!!!!
01-31-2008, 01:37 PM
#1117
Pro
I'm sorry, this is merely photoshop. Check the source, who the hell is motor authority?
The current 5 series just got a facelift for MY2008. The next 5 series will be a MY 2011 to come out in 2010. We are more than two years away.
The current E60 looks much better than the photoshop photos.
The current 5 series just got a facelift for MY2008. The next 5 series will be a MY 2011 to come out in 2010. We are more than two years away.
The current E60 looks much better than the photoshop photos.
01-31-2008, 02:06 PM
#1118
Senior Moderator
^ I've used Motorauthority at times to post car news and related info.
I see nothing wrong with what was posted by Crazy Sellout. I'm sure more information will come out in the next few days.
I see nothing wrong with what was posted by Crazy Sellout. I'm sure more information will come out in the next few days.
01-31-2008, 11:12 PM
#1119
Punk Rocker
Originally Posted by TMQ
I'm sorry, this is merely photoshop. Check the source, who the hell is motor authority?
The current 5 series just got a facelift for MY2008. The next 5 series will be a MY 2011 to come out in 2010. We are more than two years away.
The current E60 looks much better than the photoshop photos.
The current 5 series just got a facelift for MY2008. The next 5 series will be a MY 2011 to come out in 2010. We are more than two years away.
The current E60 looks much better than the photoshop photos.
You think the E60 looks better than those CG's???? You freakin blind or something?
02-01-2008, 12:07 AM
#1120
I shoot people
hmmmmmmm I was just started to like the new tail lights (of the latest change), not sure if I like the picture of the backside (previous page)