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5.8s. Per Edmunds, the TLX SH-AWD hit 60 in 6.4s.
2015 Acura TLX Road Test | Edmunds.com
Edit - My memory was a bit foggy; the 328i that they tested cost the same as the TLX that was tested ($45k and change) and hit 60 at 5.4s.
2013 BMW 328i M Sport vs. 2013 Cadillac ATS 2.0 Premium vs. 2014 Lexus IS 250 F Sport on Edmunds.com
2015 Acura TLX Road Test | Edmunds.com
Edit - My memory was a bit foggy; the 328i that they tested cost the same as the TLX that was tested ($45k and change) and hit 60 at 5.4s.
2013 BMW 328i M Sport vs. 2013 Cadillac ATS 2.0 Premium vs. 2014 Lexus IS 250 F Sport on Edmunds.com
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That's with one run. I'd also suggest reading his comments about the TLX's acceleration. He goes into details explaining how he got 5.8s on the first day he got the car, and subsequently got 5.5s.
I know, we are talking about two sources. You are right if you were going to say that. Then again, so far we have only seen one actual test done by a major publication - Edmunds. And as shown in the Edmunds test, that particular TLX only had 600 miles on it. Most of the tests are done with about 2000 miles on the clock.
I think it's best to wait for more testing results from other mags such as Car and Driver and Motor Trend before we discuss further on this. Jeff himself will also do more testing once he gets another TLX AWD. The one he had only had 5% oil life in it so it might be slower than expected.
No, the CL Type S debuted in 2001; the 6MT debuted in 2003.
Size and cost wise, the TLX SH-AWD does compete with the 335i:
TLX SH-AWD = $42,345 (MSRP + destination) 31mpg HWY; 290hp; 6.4s 0-60
335i = $44,700 (MSRP + destination) 32mpg HWY; 300hp; 5.1s 0-60
Let's say you're right though, and the SH-AWD doesn't compare to the 335. That would mean it now compares with the 328 - obviously it wouldn't compete with the 320, that's what the 2.4 TLX is comparable to.
TLX SH-AWD = $42,345 (MSRP + destination) 31mpg HWY; 290hp; 6.4s 0-60
328i = $38,450 (MSRP + destination) 35mpg; 240hp; 5.4s 0-60
The 328i still outperforms the TLX, offers better fuel economy, and comes in at about $4k less.
"You can't compare those, they're RWD cars, not AWD" I hear you moan. True, so lets take a look at the 328i xDrive.
TLX SH-AWD = $42,345 (MSRP + destination) 31mpg HWY; 290hp; 6.4s 0-60
328i xDrive = $40,450 (MSRP + destination) 33mpg; 240hp; 5.7s 0-60
Still less expensive! Still more fuel efficient!
But by all means, keep moving the goal posts
Size and cost wise, the TLX SH-AWD does compete with the 335i:
TLX SH-AWD = $42,345 (MSRP + destination) 31mpg HWY; 290hp; 6.4s 0-60
335i = $44,700 (MSRP + destination) 32mpg HWY; 300hp; 5.1s 0-60
Let's say you're right though, and the SH-AWD doesn't compare to the 335. That would mean it now compares with the 328 - obviously it wouldn't compete with the 320, that's what the 2.4 TLX is comparable to.
TLX SH-AWD = $42,345 (MSRP + destination) 31mpg HWY; 290hp; 6.4s 0-60
328i = $38,450 (MSRP + destination) 35mpg; 240hp; 5.4s 0-60
The 328i still outperforms the TLX, offers better fuel economy, and comes in at about $4k less.
"You can't compare those, they're RWD cars, not AWD" I hear you moan. True, so lets take a look at the 328i xDrive.
TLX SH-AWD = $42,345 (MSRP + destination) 31mpg HWY; 290hp; 6.4s 0-60
328i xDrive = $40,450 (MSRP + destination) 33mpg; 240hp; 5.7s 0-60
Still less expensive! Still more fuel efficient!
But by all means, keep moving the goal posts
Are really really comparing a almost fully/fully loaded car to a base model?
True, the BMW is RWD. Does that mean we can make the same argument to Audi's then? Let's all add $20k to their price tag to "convert" them to RWD.
When we talk about RWD vs AWD vs FWD, we are talking about the feeling. And for sure, a properly tuned RWD chassis would almost always feel better than a FWD chassis. It may also feel more natural than an AWD platform. In terms of handling benefits, in respect to lap times, pulling more g's, slalom, in a production car? Hmm, I'm not too sure if RWD has a major advantage over AWD. Some of the fastest production cars are RWD (458, 911 GT3, P1), and some are AWD (GTR, 911 Turbo, 918). This is a topic that we can go all day long without a conclusion.
The TLX AWD Tech is at $41.5k
A 328i X drive needs the following to match up:
Leather seats: $1.5k
Cold weather: $1k
Drive assistance pkg: $1k
Driver assistance plus: $1.9k
Lighting pkg: $900
Tech pkg: $3.2k
Moonroof: $1k
Harmon Kardon: $900
Do the math and that's over $50k.
No, not everyone needs all the bells and whistles. That's for sure.
If all you want is a proper RWD luxury sedan that focuses more on sportiness and you don't need many features, and that you go to the track and take your car to its limits very often, then of course, the 328i makes perfect sense. Why on earth are you looking at an Acura?
However, if you are looking for a well equipped sedan that has a good balance of luxury, sportiness, fancy features, and price, then there's the TLX.
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you forgot to mention, RWD is more expensive to produce to start off with... how much more? i don't know.
Also the N20 motor itself is most likely more expensive than the 2.4 4 banger, probably more expensive than the 20 years old J series as well.
There are many things we can't see that cost more $$ to produce in the BMW + of course, the BMW will charge 4-5k more than what it s actually worth just because it is a BMW.
You do NOT need to go to the track to enjoy RWD, just as you dont need to go to the track to HATE FWD.
but you are right, it depends on what you value more. But many fanboys want to defend TLX in EVERY category... including categories that TLX is obviously losing in.
Also the N20 motor itself is most likely more expensive than the 2.4 4 banger, probably more expensive than the 20 years old J series as well.
There are many things we can't see that cost more $$ to produce in the BMW + of course, the BMW will charge 4-5k more than what it s actually worth just because it is a BMW.
You do NOT need to go to the track to enjoy RWD, just as you dont need to go to the track to HATE FWD.
but you are right, it depends on what you value more. But many fanboys want to defend TLX in EVERY category... including categories that TLX is obviously losing in.
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They should have had true base models at $2-3k less than the current pricing and offer the packages as options
You're not including destination, which I clearly noted above. That brings the cost to $42,345. I also included the cost of destination in the BMW comparisons (also noted).
FTFY.
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Show me where I said Acura is moving backwards. I said they have not advanced, ie - they're resting on their laurels.
Acura was about performance and luxury at great prices. They can no longer lean on that as there are many sub-$30k cars that have more features then them. The last car they produced that was near living up to that was the 3G TL-S.
As far as the 328 price, a 328 with leather, cold weather pack, lighting pack, and technology pack comes to a whopping $45,850.
You want to talk performance without discussing price? Fine by me. Accord V6, Maxima, Camry V6, Genesis. Want more? G37/Q50, ATS, IS350, Benz C class - hell, a CLA45 AMG. Even the upcoming Jaguar XE.
Those are all cars that offer similar, or in most cases, better performance and technology within the same size (with the exception of the CLA45, its obviously smaller).
Would you like to debate ground clearance or side view mirror design next, SSFTSX?
Acura was about performance and luxury at great prices. They can no longer lean on that as there are many sub-$30k cars that have more features then them. The last car they produced that was near living up to that was the 3G TL-S.
As far as the 328 price, a 328 with leather, cold weather pack, lighting pack, and technology pack comes to a whopping $45,850.
You want to talk performance without discussing price? Fine by me. Accord V6, Maxima, Camry V6, Genesis. Want more? G37/Q50, ATS, IS350, Benz C class - hell, a CLA45 AMG. Even the upcoming Jaguar XE.
Those are all cars that offer similar, or in most cases, better performance and technology within the same size (with the exception of the CLA45, its obviously smaller).
Would you like to debate ground clearance or side view mirror design next, SSFTSX?
fwiw, I priced a 328 out on bmw's site, I believe this is pretty close feature wise:
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xDrive, intelligent all-wheel drive
See all standard features
BASE MSRP
$39,500
Luxury Line
$2,000
Sparkling Bronze Metallic
$550
Leather Dakota Black exclusive stitching
$0
Brushed Aluminum trim
$0
Lighting Package
$900
Premium Package
$3,100
Technology Package
$3,150
Destination & Handling:
$950
BMW Ultimate Service®
A suite of premium benefits that are included at no cost with all new BMW Vehicles.
Up to 4 Years/50,000 Miles Warranty
Included
Up to 4 Years/50,000 Miles
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Up to 4 Years/Unlimited Mileage
Roadside Assistance
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Total MSRP as Built $50,150
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you just compared an '01 cls with a '98 e36 m3. I was commenting on that.
5.8s. Per Edmunds, the TLX SH-AWD hit 60 in 6.4s.
2015 Acura TLX Road Test | Edmunds.com
Edit - My memory was a bit foggy; the 328i that they tested cost the same as the TLX that was tested ($45k and change) and hit 60 at 5.4s.
2013 BMW 328i M Sport vs. 2013 Cadillac ATS 2.0 Premium vs. 2014 Lexus IS 250 F Sport on Edmunds.com
2015 Acura TLX Road Test | Edmunds.com
Edit - My memory was a bit foggy; the 328i that they tested cost the same as the TLX that was tested ($45k and change) and hit 60 at 5.4s.
2013 BMW 328i M Sport vs. 2013 Cadillac ATS 2.0 Premium vs. 2014 Lexus IS 250 F Sport on Edmunds.com
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Wow. "Pretty dumb"? I won't even try to figure out where that came from. (Maybe you hang around a playground and that's how your peers treat each other.)
As for great cars, I was responding to the poster in my first quote, not you.
I'm also still not sure how your discussion of the cars all being essentially Hondas -- including the OP's listed cars -- has to do with anything. (We all agree that they are.) I was simply adding two cars to that list.
As for great cars, I was responding to the poster in my first quote, not you.
I'm also still not sure how your discussion of the cars all being essentially Hondas -- including the OP's listed cars -- has to do with anything. (We all agree that they are.) I was simply adding two cars to that list.
Also, trying to claim the RSX and TSX as great "Acura's" considering they were designed, developed, and produced outside of the US and had no involvement from Acura in their actual creation AND your attempt to compare the A3 and Golf similarities to those two was pretty stupid.
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I'm not arguing that the tlx or acura is ahead of the pack performance wise. they're middle of the pack, like the cl was. still a good value. same goes for 3g tl-s, a great car...of course I would say that since I own one. it doesn't have the performance stats of a 335, but I paid a lot less for it.
fwiw, I priced a 328 out on bmw's site, I believe this is pretty close feature wise:
fwiw, I priced a 328 out on bmw's site, I believe this is pretty close feature wise:
I am too lazy to explain every single one of them. just to name a few
TLX LED headlight - good but not adaptive
TLX Nav - low res and lack of features. Not much different from what you get in Oddy and Accord
TLX leather - does not offer any kind of bolster or extender
TLX - No HUD that is offered in Tech package
and many other options that are not even available in a TLX.
If you really want an apple to apple comparison then Acura needs to offer equipment and options of what you WANT, not what you need.
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i chose to ignore that
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skd2k1 is almost up there with SSFTSX. should just ignore him to be honest.
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Close in feature names but the actual functionality and quality of the options is night and day.
I am too lazy to explain every single one of them. just to name a few
TLX LED headlight - good but not adaptive
TLX Nav - low res and lack of features. Not much different from what you get in Oddy and Accord
TLX leather - does not offer any kind of bolster or extender
TLX - No HUD that is offered in Tech package
and many other options that are not even available in a TLX.
If you really want an apple to apple comparison then Acura needs to offer equipment and options of what you WANT, not what you need.
I am too lazy to explain every single one of them. just to name a few
TLX LED headlight - good but not adaptive
TLX Nav - low res and lack of features. Not much different from what you get in Oddy and Accord
TLX leather - does not offer any kind of bolster or extender
TLX - No HUD that is offered in Tech package
and many other options that are not even available in a TLX.
If you really want an apple to apple comparison then Acura needs to offer equipment and options of what you WANT, not what you need.
what a person "wants" is subjective.
bottom line, the cl-s 6mt couldn't hang with 330i of it's day.
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I agree. Thay CL Type-S had a presence that the new TL's did not have. Had some style too. One that were black with bigger wheels were badass.
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Actually, Ad homs is a Facebook page with a picture of a horse in the profile...
https://www.facebook.com/alaa.dablan.79
Now, an ad hominem would be a crutch for people who can't effectively argue their point of view.
If you really want to try and sound smart using terms you don't know (how could you, you don't even know how to uppercase the beginning of sentences) at least go on Google and make sure you get those fancy words spelled correctly.
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If you're trying to respond to a person's post try quoting them and not someone different. It makes what you're trying to say sound like nonsense.
Also, trying to claim the RSX and TSX as great "Acura's" considering they were designed, developed, and produced outside of the US and had no involvement from Acura in their actual creation AND your attempt to compare the A3 and Golf similarities to those two was pretty stupid.
Also, trying to claim the RSX and TSX as great "Acura's" considering they were designed, developed, and produced outside of the US and had no involvement from Acura in their actual creation AND your attempt to compare the A3 and Golf similarities to those two was pretty stupid.
And speaking of redirecting the discussion, what does the country of origin have to do with whether a car deserves the awards it won from the automotive press? The cars listed by the OP were not described under your parameters...and no one but you is holding them to that. Lexus has many cars that were created outside this country, from Toyota cars...as does Audi, (created from VWs...and in many cases rebadged). But apparently you like to hold Acura to special rules -- which do not apply to the discussion anyway.
BTW, Acura = Honda -- the same company...until just a few months ago, when they recently became officially separate companies. Look it up.
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Actually, Ad homs is a Facebook page with a picture of a horse in the profile...
https://www.facebook.com/alaa.dablan.79
Now, an ad hominem would be a crutch for people who can't effectively argue their point of view.
If you really want to try and sound smart using terms you don't know (how could you, you don't even know how to uppercase the beginning of sentences) at least go on Google and make sure you get those fancy words spelled correctly.
https://www.facebook.com/alaa.dablan.79
Now, an ad hominem would be a crutch for people who can't effectively argue their point of view.
If you really want to try and sound smart using terms you don't know (how could you, you don't even know how to uppercase the beginning of sentences) at least go on Google and make sure you get those fancy words spelled correctly.
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Ok, enough is enough. Lets get this back on track and more civilized.
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Yes you are right 328 similarly equipped will be at $50k. and there is a reason why it is $50k.
That is like comparing 2 55" TV... 1 cost $600 and 1 cost $2000. Yes they offer the similar features but no they are not the same.
What a person "Wants" is subjective that is why you have to offer different OPTIONS to cover as much ground as possible. But having choices usually means more $$.
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How is that splitting hair? similarly equipped does not mean they should cost the same.
Yes you are right 328 similarly equipped will be at $50k. and there is a reason why it is $50k.
That is like comparing 2 55" TV... 1 cost $600 and 1 cost $2000. Yes they offer the similar features but no they are not the same.
Yes you are right 328 similarly equipped will be at $50k. and there is a reason why it is $50k.
That is like comparing 2 55" TV... 1 cost $600 and 1 cost $2000. Yes they offer the similar features but no they are not the same.
again, what people want is subjective, some people want more options and are willing to spend more money for those options and some don't. there is more than one way to skin a cat. not everyone shares your wants.
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I think we are pretty civilized here... compare to what is going on the TLX section? we are calm as fuk. =D
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you forgot to mention, RWD is more expensive to produce to start off with... how much more? i don't know.
Also the N20 motor itself is most likely more expensive than the 2.4 4 banger, probably more expensive than the 20 years old J series as well.
There are many things we can't see that cost more $$ to produce in the BMW + of course, the BMW will charge 4-5k more than what it s actually worth just because it is a BMW.
You do NOT need to go to the track to enjoy RWD, just as you dont need to go to the track to HATE FWD.
but you are right, it depends on what you value more. But many fanboys want to defend TLX in EVERY category... including categories that TLX is obviously losing in.
Also the N20 motor itself is most likely more expensive than the 2.4 4 banger, probably more expensive than the 20 years old J series as well.
There are many things we can't see that cost more $$ to produce in the BMW + of course, the BMW will charge 4-5k more than what it s actually worth just because it is a BMW.
You do NOT need to go to the track to enjoy RWD, just as you dont need to go to the track to HATE FWD.
but you are right, it depends on what you value more. But many fanboys want to defend TLX in EVERY category... including categories that TLX is obviously losing in.
And you are probably right that the N20 is more $$ to make than the K24 and/or J35. Again, I have no clue.
And I agree, you don't need to go to a track to enjoy RWD. Here's what I said in my previous post,
"And for sure, a properly tuned RWD chassis would almost always feel better than a FWD chassis. It may also feel more natural than an AWD platform."
I also agree that there are fan boys out there that would defend for something that's false. At the same time, I also see some people making false statements about the TLX that make it sound worse than it is.
Honda is obviously milking the K series and J series. But to be fair, the TLX 2.4L competes well with the 320i, IS250 and ATS 2.5 in terms of NVH, performance, and fuel economy. The TLX 3.5L also competes well in those categories against 328i, C300, IS350, A4 2.0T and ATS 2.0T/3.6.
The biggest concern in the powertrain department is that, there's nothing from the TLX line up that can compete head on with S4, C400, and 335i. In fact, it's only the German brands that are involved at that level. The Q50 is somewhere in between a IS350 and 335i in terms of straight line performance.
No, I'm comparing a base SH-AWD with a base (and then later, decently equipped) 328i. Just because Acura has tons of options in the base model does not make it valuable. It's the same principal as trying to sell a modified car at a premium; buyers that have no interest in said features see no value in it.
That's fine, but still quite sizable gap. But of course, as mentioned, if you are only looking for performance/dollar ratio, and you don't need any of those features, then it makes little sense to get the TLX.
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I didn't say it means they should cost the same, the point is that they don't cost the same when similarly equipped.
again, what people want is subjective, some people want more options and are willing to spend more money for those options and some don't. there is more than one way to skin a cat. not everyone shares your wants.
again, what people want is subjective, some people want more options and are willing to spend more money for those options and some don't. there is more than one way to skin a cat. not everyone shares your wants.
Using the 328i and TLX as examples, it is true that when a 328i is equipped with similar options as the TLX, the 328i will cost a lot more than the TLX.
But not all buyers want every single one of the built-in options on their pre-packaged-trim-leveled vehicles. So why make them pay extra money for built-in options that these buyers don't want to have nor need to have.
For these buyers, a custom-optioned 328i will be cheaper in price than the TLX which "contains" the buyers' individual desired options.
Therefore, a custom-optioned European luxury sedan (equipped with every options specified by the sedan buyers) may sometimes be even cheaper in price than the equivalently equipped (as the Euro sedan) pre-packaged-trim-leveled Acura.
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I don't quite understand why some people always use a loaded Acura vehicle for equipment-level benchmark pricing comparisons, especially that Acura sedans have never been benchmark vehicles in any vehicle class.
Using the 328i and TLX as examples, it is true that when a 328i is equipped with similar options as the TLX, the 328i will cost a lot more than the TLX.
But not all buyers want every single one of the built-in options on their pre-packaged-trim-leveled vehicles. So why make them pay extra money for built-in options that these buyers don't want to have nor need to have.
For these buyers, a custom-optioned 328i will be cheaper in price than the TLX which "contains" the buyers' individual desired options.
Therefore, a custom-optioned European luxury sedan (equipped with every options specified by the sedan buyers) may sometimes be even cheaper in price than the equivalently equipped (as the Euro sedan) pre-packaged-trim-leveled Acura.
Using the 328i and TLX as examples, it is true that when a 328i is equipped with similar options as the TLX, the 328i will cost a lot more than the TLX.
But not all buyers want every single one of the built-in options on their pre-packaged-trim-leveled vehicles. So why make them pay extra money for built-in options that these buyers don't want to have nor need to have.
For these buyers, a custom-optioned 328i will be cheaper in price than the TLX which "contains" the buyers' individual desired options.
Therefore, a custom-optioned European luxury sedan (equipped with every options specified by the sedan buyers) may sometimes be even cheaper in price than the equivalently equipped (as the Euro sedan) pre-packaged-trim-leveled Acura.
That's pretty much what we are saying. I don't think he's saying that other makes should use Acura as a benchmark.
With that said, you can't exactly custom build a Euro sedan exactly as you want.
Using the 3 series example, let's say I want heated rear seats for my parents, but don't want front heated seats, I can't do that. I must get Cold weather package and now I will also be stuck with heated steering wheel. Another example is if I ONLY want the M suspension, I must also get the variable sport steering as part of the dynamic handling package.
Same thing goes for heads up display. What if I want something cool like the heads up display? I must now spend $3k on the tech package in order to get that feature.
Yet another example, if all I want is paddle shifters, I will need to also get the Sport Line.
And what if I want paddle shifters on a 320i? Sorry, that's impossible.
So yes, in some scenarios, you are definitely correct that getting a 328i can be cheaper than a pre packaged Acura. And certainly, it's more flexible than the Acura system. However, I also believe you can't always custom build a 3 series exactly the way you want.
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yah you can't have it EXACTLY the way you want it... or maybe with Bentley and RR. That just shows choices = $$
However, with BMW and Merc, at least the most popular options like sunroof, Dakota leather, Extended or full leather (dashboard), Navi, LED headlights can all be ordered sepeartely without packages.
However, with BMW and Merc, at least the most popular options like sunroof, Dakota leather, Extended or full leather (dashboard), Navi, LED headlights can all be ordered sepeartely without packages.
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yah you can't have it EXACTLY the way you want it... or maybe with Bentley and RR. That just shows choices = $$
However, with BMW and Merc, at least the most popular options like sunroof, Dakota leather, Extended or full leather (dashboard), Navi, LED headlights can all be ordered sepeartely without packages.
However, with BMW and Merc, at least the most popular options like sunroof, Dakota leather, Extended or full leather (dashboard), Navi, LED headlights can all be ordered sepeartely without packages.
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Seems to be a "chick-or-the-egg" issue. If they want to go upmarket, they'll need to change their approach. If they are waiting until they get more volume first, they may find themselves in a permanent state of waiting.
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i don't think Acura has enough models and volume to follow the same model as BMW.
but I honestly think Acura should not have made LED headlight standard on every TLX and soon on every Acura. it is good for consumers until when they realize the $25k ILX has the same headlight. when every Acura on the road has the same headlight, then it is no longer something special and with many other standard features.
but I honestly think Acura should not have made LED headlight standard on every TLX and soon on every Acura. it is good for consumers until when they realize the $25k ILX has the same headlight. when every Acura on the road has the same headlight, then it is no longer something special and with many other standard features.
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^that was one of the reasons I bought an acura, because so much tech came standard. personally, I couldn't care less if a less expensive model has the same headlights, but I'm sure there are folks out there who would be bothered by that. at the same time, I don't know anyone who wants halogen headlights on their 2015 luxury car.
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^that was one of the reasons I bought an acura, because so much tech came standard. personally, I could care less if a less expensive model has the same headlights, but I'm sure there are folks out there who would be bothered by that. at the same time, I don't know anyone who wants halogen headlights on their 2015 luxury car.
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Like oonowindoo and I are saying, Acura doesn't have enough models and volume to follow the same model as BMW, Mercedes, or Audi. Companies like Cadillac, Infiniti, and Lexus have larger parent companies to back them.
If they stay with FWD chassis, and start following the same model as other luxury makes, then most likely their production and manufacturing costs would go up. That cost would need to be transferred to the customers. I don't know how much more that would cost, but even making each Acura model 10% more expensive can be very risky.
i don't think Acura has enough models and volume to follow the same model as BMW.
but I honestly think Acura should not have made LED headlight standard on every TLX and soon on every Acura. it is good for consumers until when they realize the $25k ILX has the same headlight. when every Acura on the road has the same headlight, then it is no longer something special and with many other standard features.
but I honestly think Acura should not have made LED headlight standard on every TLX and soon on every Acura. it is good for consumers until when they realize the $25k ILX has the same headlight. when every Acura on the road has the same headlight, then it is no longer something special and with many other standard features.