Acura: TLX News
08-12-2014, 01:13 PM
Team Owner
a gauge is a gauge, as long as it is functional and shows the intended information. then it is a real gauge.
Fake = forever standing still.
08-12-2014, 01:45 PM
Senior Moderator
The commercial is great if you have the mute button on. It needed a much better choice for that.
08-12-2014, 02:17 PM
Race Director
Maybe Acura wanted to get a bit closer to the Tesla center stack with its use of dual screens and lack of buttons. I mean in terms of manufacturing, slapping two iPads in the center stack and then designing everything with firmware might be the way to go in the future.
08-12-2014, 02:17 PM
AZ Community Team
Fake = reproduction
I can get why MB did the whole dial display on the S550 (older customer base). Also can see why the new C7 and Dart have user configurable displays for different modes and such.
None the less pretty cool to have a configurable display. Playing around with Torque, you can create alot of your own.
08-12-2014, 02:52 PM
Azine Jabroni
Well, technically it's a display emulating or reproducing a mechanical gauge.
Fake = reproduction
I can get why MB did the whole dial display on the S550 (older customer base). Also can see why the new C7 and Dart have user configurable displays for different modes and such.
None the less pretty cool to have a configurable display. Playing around with Torque, you can create alot of your own.
Fake = reproduction
I can get why MB did the whole dial display on the S550 (older customer base). Also can see why the new C7 and Dart have user configurable displays for different modes and such.
None the less pretty cool to have a configurable display. Playing around with Torque, you can create alot of your own.
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08-12-2014, 02:57 PM
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For the non-engineers in the thread
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_loop
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08-12-2014, 03:00 PM
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08-12-2014, 03:57 PM
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08-12-2014, 03:59 PM
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08-12-2014, 04:37 PM
Team Owner
You can't just go from all buttons to all screens. They are equally as bad except screens look better.
If i had to choose, i'd choose more buttons because the you will remember where the frequently used ones are. So it is still 1 sec operation vs. taking your eyes off the road to find where you can adjust your fan speed.
08-12-2014, 05:27 PM
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They need to find a good compromise between buttons/screen/knobs.
You can't just go from all buttons to all screens. They are equally as bad except screens look better.
If i had to choose, i'd choose more buttons because the you will remember where the frequently used ones are. So it is still 1 sec operation vs. taking your eyes off the road to find where you can adjust your fan speed.
You can't just go from all buttons to all screens. They are equally as bad except screens look better.
If i had to choose, i'd choose more buttons because the you will remember where the frequently used ones are. So it is still 1 sec operation vs. taking your eyes off the road to find where you can adjust your fan speed.
08-12-2014, 05:34 PM
+1 This is by far one of Acura's better ones. Better than the MDX's "Made for Humankind" ones, and better than the RLX's "Dark Horse" one.
Agreed. The two-tiered screens are cool - but as reviewers noted, there's learning curve. I'm sure I wouldn't mind it over the long run - but I do like the sea of single-function buttons.
08-12-2014, 05:35 PM
AZ Community Team
Acura definitely went to the minimal buttons on the TLX.
Besides the touchscreen on the Tech models there is voice reconition for car controls as well (including Nav, audio, climate, phone,...).
http://www.acura.com/Features.aspx?m...ce_recognition
I'd rather have 2 displays (like having two monitors for a PC) with the lower one being a touchscreen if it's responsive and intuitive.
I had a 740i rental last summer and found the single display to be annoying to use with the iDrive control.
Besides the touchscreen on the Tech models there is voice reconition for car controls as well (including Nav, audio, climate, phone,...).
http://www.acura.com/Features.aspx?m...ce_recognition
In addition to the sophisticated, new touchscreen and versatile steering wheel-mounted controls, the voice recognition feature allows you to perform the most frequently used audio, climate, and navigation functions without ever lifting a finger. Speak and it will be done.
- With a simple click of the steering wheel-mounted “Talk” control, the audio system instantly mutes so you can issue one of over 600 voice commands (with thousands of variations) to the audio, climate or navigation systems.
- If you come to an unfamiliar navigation screen, voiced guidance prompts can help. The available command choices are also highlighted.
- Some simple commands replace multiple manual functions. For example: “CD, song 4”, will turn on the audio system, select CD as an audio source and play the fourth song. That’s three-for-one efficiency.
- Don’t worry about entering a specific address. The navigation system recognizes over a million city, street and location names.
- This is the latest edition of the voice recognition system Acura has been refining for over a decade.
I had a 740i rental last summer and found the single display to be annoying to use with the iDrive control.
Last edited by Legend2TL; 08-12-2014 at 05:40 PM.
08-12-2014, 05:36 PM
Team Owner
As someone mentioned earlier, It seems the dual screens are "connected"
So certain functions will require you to operate on both screens.
That is just trying too hard to be fancy.
08-12-2014, 05:39 PM
Team Owner
Acura definitely went to the minimal buttons on the TLX.
Besides the touchscreen on the Tech models there is voice reconition for car controls as well (including Nav, audio, climate, phone,...).
http://www.acura.com/Features.aspx?m...ce_recognition
I'm OK with a 2 displays and lower one with a touchscreen if it's responsive and intuitive.
I had a 740i rental last summer and found the single display to be annoying to use with the iDrive control.
Besides the touchscreen on the Tech models there is voice reconition for car controls as well (including Nav, audio, climate, phone,...).
http://www.acura.com/Features.aspx?m...ce_recognition
I'm OK with a 2 displays and lower one with a touchscreen if it's responsive and intuitive.
I had a 740i rental last summer and found the single display to be annoying to use with the iDrive control.
I have it on my 335.. never used it once. I wish they can remove that crap and give me 5 more HP.
As far as BMW, well they are the inventor or all modern "idrive" and lookalikes. That should tell you a lot about their mentality. I think user friendliness is last on their priority list.
With that being said, I am glad BMW still retained most of the key/frequent function as buttons and knobs (volumne, AC, Fan speed and etc...)
now entering address to the Navi is another story, i find myself use my phone more often than the Navi in my car.
Last edited by oonowindoo; 08-12-2014 at 05:43 PM.
08-12-2014, 05:42 PM
I feel the need...
Acura. Fix. Now.
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08-12-2014, 05:51 PM
Team Owner
The touchscreen keyboard was MUCH easier and faster to use than that stupid dial (Idrive)
08-12-2014, 06:00 PM
AZ Community Team
I assuming (hoping 
) voice recognition has gotten better over time. The voice recognition for the BlueTooth in 05 TL is poor to fair.
BMW did a great job with their control for phone integration for calls and audio. Within a few minutes I paired my iPhone5, and used the steering wheel controls to scroll through phonebook and select audio tracks from the phone which was intuitive.
) voice recognition has gotten better over time. The voice recognition for the BlueTooth in 05 TL is poor to fair. BMW did a great job with their control for phone integration for calls and audio. Within a few minutes I paired my iPhone5, and used the steering wheel controls to scroll through phonebook and select audio tracks from the phone which was intuitive.
i have had that voice recognition crap since my G35 days. Never worked the way i wanted.
I have it on my 335.. never used it once. I wish they can remove that crap and give me 5 more HP.
As far as BMW, well they are the inventor or all modern "idrive" and lookalikes. That should tell you a lot about their mentality. I think user friendliness is last on their priority list.
With that being said, I am glad BMW still retained most of the key/frequent function as buttons and knobs (volumne, AC, Fan speed and etc...)
now entering address to the Navi is another story, i find myself use my phone more often than the Navi in my car.
I have it on my 335.. never used it once. I wish they can remove that crap and give me 5 more HP.
As far as BMW, well they are the inventor or all modern "idrive" and lookalikes. That should tell you a lot about their mentality. I think user friendliness is last on their priority list.
With that being said, I am glad BMW still retained most of the key/frequent function as buttons and knobs (volumne, AC, Fan speed and etc...)
now entering address to the Navi is another story, i find myself use my phone more often than the Navi in my car.
08-12-2014, 06:02 PM
I feel the need...
I don't want to go to restaurant momofuku in timbuktu. WTF!
08-12-2014, 06:06 PM
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BMW really changed the automotive industry though. I remember when the 2002 745Li came out. The hump in the dash was called stupid and ugly. iDrive was considered way too confusing. Now look what happened. Everyone went towards BMW. They were really ahead of the time with that.
08-12-2014, 06:10 PM
Team Owner
I assuming (hoping ) voice recognition has gotten better over time. The voice recognition for the BlueTooth in 05 TL is poor to fair.
BMW did a great job with their control for phone integration for calls and audio. Within a few minutes I paired my iPhone5, and used the steering wheel controls to scroll through phonebook and select audio tracks from the phone which was intuitive.
) voice recognition has gotten better over time. The voice recognition for the BlueTooth in 05 TL is poor to fair. BMW did a great job with their control for phone integration for calls and audio. Within a few minutes I paired my iPhone5, and used the steering wheel controls to scroll through phonebook and select audio tracks from the phone which was intuitive.
The only problem i have with BMW's Idrive is its Navigation. I do not have 5 minutes just sitting there entering address.
08-12-2014, 06:14 PM
Team Owner
You want to know whats even more comical about Acura's nav setting is when you try to search for an address by name and it pulls up a list of supposed name matches of the place you are looking for, but it doesn't default to the closest by proximity.
I don't want to go to restaurant momofuku in timbuktu. WTF!
I don't want to go to restaurant momofuku in timbuktu. WTF!
08-12-2014, 06:26 PM
Team Owner
my friend's dealer unloading their first batch of TLX. it does not seem there are any 4 bangers based on the looks of the wheels.
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08-12-2014, 06:27 PM
A-TSX Oldie
Originally Posted by Fibonacci
You want to know whats even more comical about Acura's nav setting is when you try to search for an address by name and it pulls up a list of supposed name matches of the place you are looking for, but it doesn't default to the closest by proximity.
I don't want to go to restaurant momofuku in timbuktu. WTF!
I don't want to go to restaurant momofuku in timbuktu. WTF!
08-12-2014, 06:34 PM
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08-12-2014, 10:09 PM
You want to know whats even more comical about Acura's nav setting is when you try to search for an address by name and it pulls up a list of supposed name matches of the place you are looking for, but it doesn't default to the closest by proximity.
I don't want to go to restaurant momofuku in timbuktu. WTF!
I don't want to go to restaurant momofuku in timbuktu. WTF!
why can't they just give us an android ui and 9in hi-def screen? that would be the best solution imo.
Last edited by skd2k1; 08-12-2014 at 10:11 PM.
08-12-2014, 11:27 PM
Team Owner
HDMI cable + a good screen
Solution to everything.
Solution to everything.
08-13-2014, 04:57 AM
I feel the need...
The thought had occurred to me, but haven't managed to figure it out yet. 
But back to the stacked dual screens, after spending some seat in our 3G MDX, I don't think it is a winning strategy. My wish list would be:
Changing the seat heater on the fly in the touchscreen never fails to annoy the piss out of me. It's a shining example of complicating a function that used to be intuitive and take a split second.
But back to the stacked dual screens, after spending some seat in our 3G MDX, I don't think it is a winning strategy. My wish list would be:
- Make the main video screen bigger and super high res
- Separate the HVAC functions and restore physical buttons for them
- Remove lockout feature while moving (why can't passenger make entries?)
- Get the jog dial (and touch screen keyboard) programmed to respond FASTER
Changing the seat heater on the fly in the touchscreen never fails to annoy the piss out of me. It's a shining example of complicating a function that used to be intuitive and take a split second.
08-13-2014, 09:35 AM
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08-13-2014, 10:42 AM
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Google doesnt charge for updates. Also As long as you are in an area where people are actually using it. Around here not so much. Plus ive seen that cops have gotten smart and started anonymously marking them as gone from said location when they arent.
08-13-2014, 10:48 AM
I didn't know about cops using waze, those bastids!
08-13-2014, 11:23 AM
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Looked at a V6 TLX Tech this morning, I was pretty impressed overall with the looks and quality of the interior (materials, gaps, switch/control feel,...). Didn't have time to drive it, had to get to work. The instrument cluster and center stackup look nice. The quality of the plastic and leather are extremely good for this price point, look very close to RLX levels. Acura did a great job overall, they should be selling 5-6K/month at these prices.
08-13-2014, 11:45 AM
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It's probably just me, but I only use voice recognition for calling people...I just feel weird talking to the car....lol...
I think 5000-6000 units/month would be fantastic for Acura. But I doubt it will reach that high given how good the competition is. In the old days, there were probably 4 good competitors (TL, G35, 3 series, ES). Now we have like 7 solid competitors (TLX, A4, C Class, 3 series, ATS, IS, Q50, ES) plus a few alternatives (According Touring, A3, CLA, etc).
I think 5000-6000 units/month would be fantastic for Acura. But I doubt it will reach that high given how good the competition is. In the old days, there were probably 4 good competitors (TL, G35, 3 series, ES). Now we have like 7 solid competitors (TLX, A4, C Class, 3 series, ATS, IS, Q50, ES) plus a few alternatives (According Touring, A3, CLA, etc).
08-13-2014, 01:11 PM
I'm the Firestarter
http://owners.honda.com/hondalink/nextgeneration
Acura should get on this. It's the future.
08-13-2014, 01:13 PM
I'm the Firestarter
BMW really changed the automotive industry though. I remember when the 2002 745Li came out. The hump in the dash was called stupid and ugly. iDrive was considered way too confusing. Now look what happened. Everyone went towards BMW. They were really ahead of the time with that.
08-13-2014, 01:15 PM
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Looked at a V6 TLX Tech this morning, I was pretty impressed overall with the looks and quality of the interior (materials, gaps, switch/control feel,...). Didn't have time to drive it, had to get to work. The instrument cluster and center stackup look nice. The quality of the plastic and leather are extremely good for this price point, look very close to RLX levels. Acura did a great job overall, they should be selling 5-6K/month at these prices.
Drove a V6 FWD Tech this morning. I was really impressed with it. Looking forward to the SH-AWD test drive and a possible Type S.
08-13-2014, 01:15 PM
Team Owner
i think initially (first year), 4000-4500 units will be more realistic and it is still a great number for TLX, but i am not sure that will contribute enough for Acura's overall number considering it replaces 2 cars.
3500 for 4 bangers and 1000 for the V6 will be my prediction.
3500 for 4 bangers and 1000 for the V6 will be my prediction.
08-13-2014, 01:17 PM
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