Acura: Sales, Marketing, and Financial News
08-06-2021, 03:13 AM
#5562
This car lost $20K value in less than a year despite V8 Ultimate. Who is laughing now? hell @YEH . Even 20 year old RLX platform didnot lose that much when cars were cheaper.
Used Cars - 2020 Genesis G90
Used Cars - 2020 Genesis G90
2020 Genesis G90 - $59,950
08-06-2021, 12:12 PM
#5564
This car lost $20K value in less than a year despite V8 Ultimate. Who is laughing now? hell @YEH . Even 20 year old RLX platform didnot lose that much when cars were cheaper.
Used Cars - 2020 Genesis G90
Used Cars - 2020 Genesis G90
2020 Genesis G90 - $59,950
Sigh!
How many times do we have to cover the same topic (is your mind totally incapable of processing info. that's given to you on a platter?).
Once again, not surprising that big, flagship sedans depreciate heavily,
The S Class depreciates 54% after 5 years, and around $26k in its 1st year (even more so for the Maybach).
Do you think S Class owners care?
They don't and they just get a new one every few years.
Only people who care so much about depreciation are the VALUE buyers which is what Acura buyers tend to be.
Here's a 2020MY RLX with Tech (w/ only 2,550 mi) for $36,990.
MSRP was $54,900, so basically lost $18k in value despite being barely broken in.
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/invent...584_isFeatured
That's losing a whopping 33% of its value despite being barely broken in (and still can't sell, having been listed for over 100 days).
It's really pitiful that this is all you have - which isn't anything since the RLX depreciates more, and it's not even in the flagship class - since you can't refute any of the sales/ATP data.
Last edited by YEH; 08-06-2021 at 12:24 PM.
08-06-2021, 12:35 PM
#5565
That RLX is 20 year old platform with 20 year old FWD V6 engine. The Genesis V8 G90 ultimate is upgraded for 2020. and still lost $20K. you still want to waste money on RWD platforms.
08-06-2021, 12:38 PM
#5566
Team Owner
If you care about resale value then you are not rich enough to afford a true luxury flagship.. which is why Acura can't sell any sedans over $50k...
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08-06-2021, 12:44 PM
#5567
No one's but Honda's for not investing in their once flagship sedan.
What happened to all that R&D spending that you always brag about?
Speaking of which, for all that R&D spending, why does the TLX keep getting slower (even slower than an old TL - lol!)?
And not surprisingly, your nos. are wrong for the G90 (wouldn't be surprised if you intentionally tried to mislead).
The MSRP for a 2020MY G90 Ultimate RWD is $75,700, so $59,990 would be only $15,750 off the original MSRP. or a depreciation of 21%.
You're either so stupid thst you can't do basic math or you're a total fraud who is trying to mislead everyone (I'd say both).
So, 21% for the G90 as opposed to a whopping 33% for the RLX, and that's despite bigger, more expensive sedans typically depreciating more.
The 2020 G90 only got a cosmetic refresh but is on an old platform with old engines.
The next G90 (which should launch later thus year in Korea) is on a new platform and is getting a new engine, and likely an electric variant as well.
And the 1st year depreciation on the new G90 will likely drop to around 16-18%.
Last edited by YEH; 08-06-2021 at 12:54 PM.
08-06-2021, 12:53 PM
#5568
It does not matter what is price in 2020. The new price in 2021 is $80k. remember used car prices are appreciatiing. Its only Genesis that is depreciating.
https://www.carvana.com/vehicle/1820146
2020 GENESIS
G90
5.0 Ultimate Sedan 4D | 13,218 miles
$50,990
Save $13,246 vs. KBB
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https://www.carvana.com/vehicle/1820146
2020 GENESIS
G90
5.0 Ultimate Sedan 4D | 13,218 miles
$50,990
Save $13,246 vs. KBB
NOTIFY ME
HOTSPOTS
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08-06-2021, 01:10 PM
#5570
^ You're dumber than bricks.
You base depreciation on the original MSRP for that model year.
And while used car prices have appreciated (they actually have started to drop now) this year, really hasn't been the case for big, flagship sedans.
This is just another example of you knowing nothing about the auto industry, much less just being a complete moron.
The below us just further proof of your stupidity and ignorance.
Every automaker has to deal with shipping costs and it's priced into the final cost.
You think Mercedes isn't going to ship and sell the S Class here (much less to China) due to transport costs? Lol
And no, typically the Palisade/Telluride outsell the Pilot (can you get a fact right for once?) and at a higher ATP at that.
The G80 (significantly pricier than the TLX) has done 8k sales in a month in Korea.
Let us all know when the TLX ever reaches that.
And sales may be slightly down in Korea due to resurgence of the pandemic, along with the chip shortage, but HMG has not only increased market share, sales of expensive models continue to be strong.
.
You're a fricking moron if you think Honda is allocating chips to Japan to sell low margin subcompacts and Kei cars.
God, you're beyond stupid. LMAO!
Every auto maker is pushing their limited pool of chips to their most profitable models.
And let me continue to school you on BMW.and MB.
The 2 have similar ATPs, some months, BMW is higher than Merc.
While MB has the G-Wagon, the specialty AMG models and the Maybach (along with the S Class just being pricier overall), BMW makes up that difference with greater sales of its M division.
The X5 has a higher ATP than the GLE.
The 3/4 Series has a significantly higher ATP than the C Class due to all the M3/M4 sales.
While Merc sells more at the higher end of the market (in part because BMW doesn't have a G-Wagon competitor and hasn't built a supercar after the M1), BMW is still the go-to German for performance variants (albeit, Mercedes has made some gains there over the past decade).
You base depreciation on the original MSRP for that model year.
And while used car prices have appreciated (they actually have started to drop now) this year, really hasn't been the case for big, flagship sedans.
This is just another example of you knowing nothing about the auto industry, much less just being a complete moron.
The below us just further proof of your stupidity and ignorance.
I know you will bring whole world sells. do you know how expensive is shipping vehicles globally now?
talk only about North American market. Honda Pilot routinely outsells combined products from Kia and Hyundai?
TLX outsells Genesis G80/G70 combine.
Korea domestic market is in decline.
talk only about North American market. Honda Pilot routinely outsells combined products from Kia and Hyundai?
TLX outsells Genesis G80/G70 combine.
Korea domestic market is in decline.
You think Mercedes isn't going to ship and sell the S Class here (much less to China) due to transport costs? Lol
And no, typically the Palisade/Telluride outsell the Pilot (can you get a fact right for once?) and at a higher ATP at that.
The G80 (significantly pricier than the TLX) has done 8k sales in a month in Korea.
Let us all know when the TLX ever reaches that.
And sales may be slightly down in Korea due to resurgence of the pandemic, along with the chip shortage, but HMG has not only increased market share, sales of expensive models continue to be strong.
Honda allocating more semiconductors to domestic market thats why global sales will low for while. The launched high tech Honda Vezel (HRV) as much space inside as Honda CRV.
You're a fricking moron if you think Honda is allocating chips to Japan to sell low margin subcompacts and Kei cars.
God, you're beyond stupid. LMAO!
Every auto maker is pushing their limited pool of chips to their most profitable models.
And let me continue to school you on BMW.and MB.
The 2 have similar ATPs, some months, BMW is higher than Merc.
While MB has the G-Wagon, the specialty AMG models and the Maybach (along with the S Class just being pricier overall), BMW makes up that difference with greater sales of its M division.
The X5 has a higher ATP than the GLE.
The 3/4 Series has a significantly higher ATP than the C Class due to all the M3/M4 sales.
While Merc sells more at the higher end of the market (in part because BMW doesn't have a G-Wagon competitor and hasn't built a supercar after the M1), BMW is still the go-to German for performance variants (albeit, Mercedes has made some gains there over the past decade).
Last edited by YEH; 08-06-2021 at 01:20 PM.
08-06-2021, 01:50 PM
#5572
Even putting aside that depreciation is calculated from the original MSRP for that particular MY, the MSRP for a 2021MY G90 5.0 Ultimate RWD is $76,700, (up a $1k) not $80k (the model that you had posted for $59,950 is RWD, not AWD).
Even equipped with AWD, the MSRP is $79,200, not $80k; but I guess being only off by $3,300 (actually $4,336) is pretty good by SSF standards of being wrong).
And didn't I just give an example (there are many more) of a barely used RLX that lost 33% of its value (far more than the G90), so why hasn't it appreciate?
There are used Tellurides (with more miles) going for $7-9k more than the TLX - lol.
But all this is neither here nor there, but just SSF trying to obfuscate the fact that H/K outsold H/A and they didn't even need Genesis to do it.
Last edited by YEH; 08-06-2021 at 01:57 PM.
08-06-2021, 02:33 PM
#5574
You simply can't get anything correct, but you likely do that intentionally to mislead.
Even putting aside that depreciation is calculated from the original MSRP for that particular MY, the MSRP for a 2021MY G90 5.0 Ultimate RWD is $76,700, (up a $1k) not $80k (the model that you had posted for $59,950 is RWD, not AWD).
Even equipped with AWD, the MSRP is $79,200, not $80k; but I guess being only off by $3,300 (actually $4,336) is pretty good by SSF standards of being wrong).
And didn't I just give an example (there are many more) of a barely used RLX that lost 33% of its value (far more than the G90), so why hasn't it appreciate?
There are used Tellurides (with more miles) going for $7-9k more than the TLX - lol.
But all this is neither here nor there, but just SSF trying to obfuscate the fact that H/K outsold H/A and they didn't even need Genesis to do it.
Even putting aside that depreciation is calculated from the original MSRP for that particular MY, the MSRP for a 2021MY G90 5.0 Ultimate RWD is $76,700, (up a $1k) not $80k (the model that you had posted for $59,950 is RWD, not AWD).
Even equipped with AWD, the MSRP is $79,200, not $80k; but I guess being only off by $3,300 (actually $4,336) is pretty good by SSF standards of being wrong).
And didn't I just give an example (there are many more) of a barely used RLX that lost 33% of its value (far more than the G90), so why hasn't it appreciate?
There are used Tellurides (with more miles) going for $7-9k more than the TLX - lol.
But all this is neither here nor there, but just SSF trying to obfuscate the fact that H/K outsold H/A and they didn't even need Genesis to do it.
If Elon Musk droop Tesla prices. the used car prices of Tesla will go down. as people can order online the newer one.
Its only Genesis that it raised the price of new and used still drop. what joke
Honda is tranisting globally to new vehicles. so some short term shortages but it does not change the fact that high priced Honda/Acura SUVs and TLX are outperforming in sale H/K group.
Korea domestic market is in decline so it has more export capacity.
08-06-2021, 06:58 PM
#5576
^ You're dumber than bricks.
You're a fricking moron if you think Honda is allocating chips to Japan to sell low margin subcompacts and Kei cars.
God, you're beyond stupid. LMAO!
Every auto maker is pushing their limited pool of chips to their most profitable models.
And let me continue to school you on BMW.and MB.
The 2 have similar ATPs, some months, BMW is higher than Merc.
While MB has the G-Wagon, the specialty AMG models and the Maybach (along with the S Class just being pricier overall), BMW makes up that difference with greater sales of its M division.
The X5 has a higher ATP than the GLE.
The 3/4 Series has a significantly higher ATP than the C Class due to all the M3/M4 sales.
While Merc sells more at the higher end of the market (in part because BMW doesn't have a G-Wagon competitor and hasn't built a supercar after the M1), BMW is still the go-to German for performance variants (albeit, Mercedes has made some gains there over the past decade).
You're a fricking moron if you think Honda is allocating chips to Japan to sell low margin subcompacts and Kei cars.
God, you're beyond stupid. LMAO!
Every auto maker is pushing their limited pool of chips to their most profitable models.
And let me continue to school you on BMW.and MB.
The 2 have similar ATPs, some months, BMW is higher than Merc.
While MB has the G-Wagon, the specialty AMG models and the Maybach (along with the S Class just being pricier overall), BMW makes up that difference with greater sales of its M division.
The X5 has a higher ATP than the GLE.
The 3/4 Series has a significantly higher ATP than the C Class due to all the M3/M4 sales.
While Merc sells more at the higher end of the market (in part because BMW doesn't have a G-Wagon competitor and hasn't built a supercar after the M1), BMW is still the go-to German for performance variants (albeit, Mercedes has made some gains there over the past decade).
This CUV is much more upscale. more electronics.
08-19-2021, 01:11 PM
#5578
how many car companies have now word "America" in the front. free advertising for brand image.
https://www.foxnews.com/auto/heres-w...or-1-1-million
https://www.foxnews.com/auto/heres-w...or-1-1-million
Here's why an American-made Acura just sold for $1.1 million
It's a very special supercar
09-01-2021, 02:23 PM
#5579
Safety Car
August 2021
https://acuranews.com/en-US/releases...-supply-issues
Light Trucks Provide Bright Spots as American Honda August Sales Dampened by Supply Issues
September 1, 2021- American Honda weathers industrywide parts supply issues to post overall sales of 114,656 in August
- HR-V (10,836) and Passport (4,681) set 7th straight monthly sales records in August
- CR-V Hybrid powers Honda electrified vehicles to best August sales mark; Honda has set a new electrified vehicle sales record in every month of 2021
- Demand off the charts for all-new Civic Sedan, with supply the only limit as dealers quickly sell every unit they receive
- Acura light trucks surge despite limited supply of all-new MDX; RDX posts its best August
- All-new TLX Type S posts strong month and drives Acura sedan sales to best August since 2017
Total
Cars
Trucks Total
Cars
Trucks Total
Cars
Trucks
August 114,656
-15.6%
40,540
-25%
74,116
-9.5%
14,292
+4.7%
3,818
+11.5%
10,474
+2.5%
100,364
-17.9%
36,722
-27.5%
63,642
-11.2%
See accompanying spreadsheet for complete results.
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09-01-2021, 02:32 PM
#5580
only 5K sales now they have GV70.
https://www.ocbj.com/news/2021/sep/0...-sales/Genesis Motor America Inc. sold 4,975 vehicles, a 266% jump from a year ago. SUVs led sales for the luxury automaker with the GV80 notching the highest volume to total 1,726 sold in the month.
09-01-2021, 02:56 PM
#5581
Team Owner
^ not bad for a company that was only introduced a few years ago.... BTW: wrong thread fool.
09-01-2021, 04:00 PM
#5582
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Thank you @TSX69 for posting the sales numbers each month. I'm sure lots of Azine members appreciate you doing this, I know I do.
I don't know what Acura forecasted as sales of the TLX but it is interesting to see the monthly sales volume consistently outpace prior year. The redesign/refresh seems to be a hit even in light of chip shortages and supply chain hiccups.
I don't know what Acura forecasted as sales of the TLX but it is interesting to see the monthly sales volume consistently outpace prior year. The redesign/refresh seems to be a hit even in light of chip shortages and supply chain hiccups.
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09-01-2021, 04:34 PM
#5583
We still dont have RDX Type S and MDX Type S and entry level Type S.
RDX PMC editions all sold out at over $53K price. this is called brand identity.
09-01-2021, 04:47 PM
#5584
Team Owner
53k is not a lot of $$ in the luxury brand world... get a grip plz..
09-01-2021, 05:39 PM
#5586
Team Owner
Oh flat bottom steering is what i am looking for in a CUV 
Here is another news... Almost every new car is getting sold out... so RDX is not the only one.
Here is another news... Almost every new car is getting sold out... so RDX is not the only one.
09-02-2021, 01:25 AM
#5587
The GV70 is supply constrained.
Genesis expects the GV70 to be its highest volume model by far, but due to supply constraints, the larger/pricier GV80 still outsold it last month.
The brand, itself, is only a few years old, and they have to deal with supplying numerous overseas markets, not just NA like Acura.
The sales volume of the Korean market is almost as much as what Acura does here and that's with a higher ATP.
Speaking of ATP...
The GV80 carries a starting price of $49,945 including the destination fee. But in the first six months of 2021, buyers have been taking them home for an average purchase price well above that — $64,634, to be precise.
Surprisingly, that figure puts the GV80 close to the average figure paid for established rivals from Germany such as the Mercedes-Benz GLE ($67,394) and the BMW X5 ($68,635).
And unlike the Germans, the GV80 doesn't have pricier hybrids/PHEVs or performance variants to jack up the ATP.
Should be the same story (if not more so within its segment) for the GV70, with the GV70's ATP being significantly higher than the RDX, even with the PMC Edition
Wow, a whole whopping 30 of them sold out in Canada. lol
Genesis expects the GV70 to be its highest volume model by far, but due to supply constraints, the larger/pricier GV80 still outsold it last month.
Its very bad numbers with 3 RWD and 2 SUVS with multiple engine. This Genesis name is more than a decade old. They used to have coupe and large sedans with that name.
We still dont have RDX Type S and MDX Type S and entry level Type S.
RDX PMC editions all sold out at over $53K price. this is called brand identity.
We still dont have RDX Type S and MDX Type S and entry level Type S.
RDX PMC editions all sold out at over $53K price. this is called brand identity.
The brand, itself, is only a few years old, and they have to deal with supplying numerous overseas markets, not just NA like Acura.
The sales volume of the Korean market is almost as much as what Acura does here and that's with a higher ATP.
Speaking of ATP...
The GV80 carries a starting price of $49,945 including the destination fee. But in the first six months of 2021, buyers have been taking them home for an average purchase price well above that — $64,634, to be precise.
Surprisingly, that figure puts the GV80 close to the average figure paid for established rivals from Germany such as the Mercedes-Benz GLE ($67,394) and the BMW X5 ($68,635).
And unlike the Germans, the GV80 doesn't have pricier hybrids/PHEVs or performance variants to jack up the ATP.
Should be the same story (if not more so within its segment) for the GV70, with the GV70's ATP being significantly higher than the RDX, even with the PMC Edition
Wow, a whole whopping 30 of them sold out in Canada. lol
Last edited by YEH; 09-02-2021 at 01:38 AM.
09-02-2021, 02:02 AM
#5588
Sales of the new Acura TLX Type S have exceeded 500 cars, according to a letter sent to dealers. The figure is based on retail sales through August 24th for the sporty luxury car.
While 500 cars may not sound like much since the car's launch nearly 60 days ago...
- So, in about 2 months time,sold around 500 of the Type S.
Kia does more than that for the 3.3TT 6 in a month.
At $627, the GV70 is a pretty abysmal value next to competitors like the 2022 Acura MDX. For example, the all-wheel-drive MDX is currently advertised at $499 with $4,099 at signing, or $613/month.
The MDX is cheaper to lease than the GV70, that is, the 2.5T GV70.
That's called being a value-oriented brand.
Don't take it from me, but from RDX owners..
While 500 cars may not sound like much since the car's launch nearly 60 days ago...
- So, in about 2 months time,sold around 500 of the Type S.
Kia does more than that for the 3.3TT 6 in a month.
At $627, the GV70 is a pretty abysmal value next to competitors like the 2022 Acura MDX. For example, the all-wheel-drive MDX is currently advertised at $499 with $4,099 at signing, or $613/month.
The MDX is cheaper to lease than the GV70, that is, the 2.5T GV70.
That's called being a value-oriented brand.
Don't take it from me, but from RDX owners..
Took delivery of the GV70 today. Anyone who’s even remotely contemplating switching to or buying this crossover owe it to themselves to give it a chance and take one for an extended test drive. It’s simply fantastic. Better than my First Edition Velar, and definitely in a different league to the RDX. In fact, I’m not sure they’re even in the same sport.
I have an RDX and I test drove this vehicle recently. It’s wayyyyy out of the RDX’s league. Seriously, you can’t even compare the two. This car is competing with luxury brands such as Mercedes and BMW. They cut no corners on this vehicle. Everything feels so premium and the car drives like butter. Cabin is quiet. Seats are very comfortable. Steering wheel feels awesome. I love the arm rest, it feels soft (unlike that hard crap in the X3). That 14.5 in touchscreen display is gorgeous and there’s also a rotary knob as well which is easier to use while driving. Really nice sound system. There are blind spot cameras for each turn signal (I’m talking about the advanced package). The rearview camera is the best I’ve seen, and the 360 camera is the cherry on top. The only place the rdx comes out on top is cargo space (which to me doesn’t really matter). I can’t wait for my lease to be over so I can snag one of these. Hope the prices improve by then because damn they’re crazy right now.
Out of curiosity, I happened to take a test drive today of a GV70 2.5T Prestige (top Canadian trim) and was really, really impressed. It absolutely competes head to head with the Germans which isn't something I can say strongly about the RDX. The way it rolled down the road was so much smoother than the RDX - much quieter, more supple, nicer weighting in the controls. Fit and finish along with material quality was top notch - definitely comparable to Audi and Mercedes (better actually). The rear seat is on the small side (like a Q5's) and the trunk, IMO, is unacceptably small (like a Macan) while Canadian pricing is a bit higher than the RDX ($7k top trim to top trim) so while I think it's overall a much better car than the RDX I couldn't see myself switching.
If the pricing were just a bit closer (say only a $3-4k diff) and the trunk was more usable I'd have a hard time telling anyone to pick the RDX over the GV70 - the difference is just really dramatic. If the small trunk isn't an issue for you then it's a no contest. Acura's got some serious work in front of it.
If the pricing were just a bit closer (say only a $3-4k diff) and the trunk was more usable I'd have a hard time telling anyone to pick the RDX over the GV70 - the difference is just really dramatic. If the small trunk isn't an issue for you then it's a no contest. Acura's got some serious work in front of it.
09-02-2021, 03:10 AM
#5589
MDX has 20 year old engine with deals on basic car with no deals on Aspec or Advance modesl.. Basic car of MDX is far less loaded than GV70 using 2.5T and 3.5T.
if you want to know real price of GV70. Imported vs Imported. Honda sells 5 year old CRV at this prices with smaller engine and far less warranty. which Honda or Acura gives you 14.5inch screen?
Genesis is bargain basement brand with free maintainance, longer warranty and at home service and much more features for the price. it does not have any brand identity.
if you want to know real price of GV70. Imported vs Imported. Honda sells 5 year old CRV at this prices with smaller engine and far less warranty. which Honda or Acura gives you 14.5inch screen?
Genesis is bargain basement brand with free maintainance, longer warranty and at home service and much more features for the price. it does not have any brand identity.
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/genesi...70-2021-review
Prices start from £39,450, meaning the GV70 undercuts all of those rivals. Even the top-spec petrol-powered Luxury Line only comes in at £44,370. Below Luxury Line there’s also Premium Line and Sport Line trims, the latter of which we’re driving here.
The infotainment tech is displayed on a huge 14.5-inch touchscreen
The GV70 feels heavy, mainly because it is (this model weighs more than two tonnes) and as a result there’s an appreciable amount of body roll. The steering is heavier than in other Genesis models to give an impression of sportiness, but it only adds to a sense of lethargy.
New Genesis GV70 2021 review
Prices start from £39,450, meaning the GV70 undercuts all of those rivals. Even the top-spec petrol-powered Luxury Line only comes in at £44,370. Below Luxury Line there’s also Premium Line and Sport Line trims, the latter of which we’re driving here.
The infotainment tech is displayed on a huge 14.5-inch touchscreen
The GV70 feels heavy, mainly because it is (this model weighs more than two tonnes) and as a result there’s an appreciable amount of body roll. The steering is heavier than in other Genesis models to give an impression of sportiness, but it only adds to a sense of lethargy.
09-02-2021, 01:39 PM
#5590
every NSX is sellling $50K above MSRP.
people will pay $100K for this GT version. 350bhp.
https://acuraconnected.com/2021/05/1...ds-rdx-pmc-gt/
09-02-2021, 01:44 PM
#5591
Team Owner
^ In case if you have been living under a rock, you need to pay $3k over MSRP for Accord, 5K over for M340i or $10k over for Any BMW Ms. Shit my GF's sister just paid $4k over for a stupid Crosstrac...
It is not exclusive to Acura.... It is the market. But nope... No one would ever pay $100k for any kind of RDX...besides that shit is not even sold by Acura... It is done by SOMEONE and he just lost all of his suspension/engine warranty.
It is not exclusive to Acura.... It is the market. But nope... No one would ever pay $100k for any kind of RDX...besides that shit is not even sold by Acura... It is done by SOMEONE
and he just lost all of his suspension/engine warranty.
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09-02-2021, 04:42 PM
#5592
who pay$10k for 340 when one year old lose $20k at honda dealer.
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/ctd...373700322.html
This is called Brand image. over 25 years old in 3 garage home in los gatos. Google founders reside nearby.
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/ctd...374797050.html
2020 BMW 3 Series M340i - $46,981
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/ctd...373700322.html
2021 BMW 3 Series M340i Sedan North America sedan Mineral Grey - $51,995
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto...372553601.html
Lexus lx450 Land cruiser FJ80 197k miles 1 owner - $14,500 (los gatos)
09-02-2021, 04:47 PM
#5593
Team Owner
i said 5k for m340i.. who? EVERYONE who wants one right now? Unlike your made up $100k RDX, $5k over MSRP for M340i actually exists.....
Oh yes when i am looking to spend $50k on a used BMW, Craiglist is where i would go
WTF does a LX450 with 200k miles have to do with anything we talk about here. More important, WTF does that have to do with how close or far Google founders live?
You never answered my question.. LX450 or MDX?
Let me guess... you had a RDX and you bought a Nissan at some point then recently bought a used Toyota or Lexus recently?
Oh yes when i am looking to spend $50k on a used BMW, Craiglist is where i would go
WTF does a LX450 with 200k miles have to do with anything we talk about here. More important, WTF does that have to do with how close or far Google founders live?
You never answered my question.. LX450 or MDX?
Let me guess... you had a RDX and you bought a Nissan at some point then recently bought a used Toyota or Lexus recently?
Last edited by oonowindoo; 09-02-2021 at 04:53 PM.
09-02-2021, 08:23 PM
#5596
MDX has 20 year old engine with deals on basic car with no deals on Aspec or Advance modesl.. Basic car of MDX is far less loaded than GV70 using 2.5T and 3.5T.
if you want to know real price of GV70. Imported vs Imported. Honda sells 5 year old CRV at this prices with smaller engine and far less warranty. which Honda or Acura gives you 14.5inch screen?
Genesis is bargain basement brand with free maintainance, longer warranty and at home service and much more features for the price. it does not have any brand identity.
if you want to know real price of GV70. Imported vs Imported. Honda sells 5 year old CRV at this prices with smaller engine and far less warranty. which Honda or Acura gives you 14.5inch screen?
Genesis is bargain basement brand with free maintainance, longer warranty and at home service and much more features for the price. it does not have any brand identity.
And oh, where's Acura?
Here's EV's ranking of the top "midsize" SUVs...
Top 10 best mid-size SUVs
- Hyundai Tucson
- Land Rover Defender
- Skoda Enyaq iV
- BMW X3
- Jaguar F-Pace
- Nissan Qashqai
- Ford Kuga
- Skoda Karoq
- Peugeot 3008
- Toyota RAV4
Don't see the CR-V anywhere. Lol
Last edited by YEH; 09-02-2021 at 08:33 PM.
09-02-2021, 08:40 PM
#5597
In July, the Tucson, alone, outsold the entire Honda brand in Europe.
And it wasn't even close - 14,883 to 6,676. lol
And it wasn't even close - 14,883 to 6,676. lol
09-02-2021, 08:46 PM
#5598
Team Owner
09-02-2021, 09:19 PM
#5599
You mean in a market where Honda is already a non-entity? Lol
And oh, where's Acura?
Here's EV's ranking of the top "midsize" SUVs...
Don't see the CR-V anywhere. Lol
And oh, where's Acura?
Here's EV's ranking of the top "midsize" SUVs...
Top 10 best mid-size SUVs
- Hyundai Tucson
- Land Rover Defender
- Skoda Enyaq iV
- BMW X3
- Jaguar F-Pace
- Nissan Qashqai
- Ford Kuga
- Skoda Karoq
- Peugeot 3008
- Toyota RAV4
Don't see the CR-V anywhere. Lol
Thats the point i was making. most of Hyundai and Kia goes to fleet sales. its bargain brand with longer warranties. combining turbo/DCT/48V. it is give alot more tech for the price. it need all that tech to sell vehicles. it cannot achieve standardization of Honda.
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