Acura: NSX News
03-06-2006, 12:19 PM
#761
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What is the Lexus GT450? Is it the LF-A? There's no mention of it in the LF-A thread.
03-06-2006, 01:43 PM
#763
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srry but you can't call something that looks like that, an NSX. You just can't. RL Coupe, yes. NSX, no.
03-06-2006, 03:33 PM
#765
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Looks like they put the front end of the concept 4 onto a coupe body. It looks more like what the RL based coupe would be like. Maybe they're confusing different rumors?
03-06-2006, 04:11 PM
#767
Suzuka Master
Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
I thought that picture was thought to be of an S2000 successor for Acura?
That article has the wrong image matched up or something.
03-06-2006, 04:15 PM
#768
The sizzle in the Steak
Originally Posted by TL CHROMETIDE
Does anybody else think that this Honda powered V-10 equipped with SH-AWD should go up against a the Gallardo?
Front engine = teh sux.
03-06-2006, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximized
I don't care about the NSX nor the Supra. Until I see pre-production models, I can care less. Every month a magazine comes out with a rendering.
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03-06-2006, 10:18 PM
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I agree with Maximized. These car mags, especially the japanese ones, constantly give us different interpretations of the upcoming models. absolutely; until i see a concept, im not buying it.
03-07-2006, 11:50 AM
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So let me get this straight (according to this mag 
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- The new NSX is going to look like an RL coupe
- It is going to compete with the GTR
- The GTR costs around $70,000
- The GTR competitor version of the NSX will cost around $100,000
- The lower end NSX will be around $70,000 and have performance levels similar to the next generation G35
If they wanted to make a hit then the top of the line NSX should be $70,000, not the lower level NSX. It's amazing that these people can build great products but lack the understanding of how to place their upper end models ($1 to the RL) in the marketplace.
) :- The new NSX is going to look like an RL coupe
- It is going to compete with the GTR
- The GTR costs around $70,000
- The GTR competitor version of the NSX will cost around $100,000
- The lower end NSX will be around $70,000 and have performance levels similar to the next generation G35
If they wanted to make a hit then the top of the line NSX should be $70,000, not the lower level NSX. It's amazing that these people can build great products but lack the understanding of how to place their upper end models ($1 to the RL) in the marketplace.
03-07-2006, 04:44 PM
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Why not RWD? SH-AWD to me sounds new expensive tires every year; plus how can't they maintain 50/50 weight distribution with SH-AWD and front engine?
03-07-2006, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by runnerX
Why not RWD? SH-AWD to me sounds new expensive tires every year; plus how can't they maintain 50/50 weight distribution with SH-AWD and front engine?
They have 2 choices to acheive better balance with sh-awd...1) add weight to the rear of the car to reach 50/50, but this is counterintuitive especially in a sports car, or 2) develop a rwd based platform where the engine can be placed in the front but away from the front wheels, then mate a rwd-version of sh-awd to it.
03-10-2006, 07:11 AM
#779
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Originally Posted by mrdeeno
Well, none of their cars now with or without SH-AWD (except the s2000) has close to 50/50 weight distribution. Most are fwd or fwd-based with transversely mounted engines that sit over the front tires, making it front heavy.
They have 2 choices to acheive better balance with sh-awd...1) add weight to the rear of the car to reach 50/50, but this is counterintuitive especially in a sports car, or 2) develop a rwd based platform where the engine can be placed in the front but away from the front wheels, then mate a rwd-version of sh-awd to it.
They have 2 choices to acheive better balance with sh-awd...1) add weight to the rear of the car to reach 50/50, but this is counterintuitive especially in a sports car, or 2) develop a rwd based platform where the engine can be placed in the front but away from the front wheels, then mate a rwd-version of sh-awd to it.
03-10-2006, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Belzebutt
In a front-wheel platform with a transversely mounted engine you can't just move the front wheels foward a bit? Do the front wheels HAVE to be directly under the engine?
But for all intents and purposes, this would defeat the purpose of having a FWD car (space and packaging efficiency). I think that "safety" is a by-product of FWD but the thought was also crammed into the heads of consumers by marketing when most automakers embraced FWD (remember "cab-foward" by Chrysler?).
This would be similar to taking a g35x and removing the driveshaft to the rear wheels, thereby making it a front driver.
So realistically, there's no advantage to pulling a move like this...cost or performance-wise.
It's already acknowledged that it's easier and usually better to develop a sport/sporty car from a RWD-based platform. Even honda knows this (which is why the s2000 and nsx are rear-drivers). The only reason most Acuras and Hondas are FWD/FWD-based is because they are building it off the accord/global platform to save investment $. On the RL, SH-AWD is compensation to make a FWD-based car handle more like a RWD car, even though it's still front-heavy.
Actually, the weight distribution f/r is slightly worse than Audi's (can someone verify this?), which is also FWD-based...but I think this is because Audi's AWD system is slightly heavier than SH-AWD, so it adds more weight towards the rear.
The RL can get away with it and I think slow sales are not the result of it being FWD-based.
But the next NSX MUST be rwd-based for weight distribution. It should handle like a true sports car with only RWD, and a rwd version of SH-AWD should only supplement this handling (and not add too much weight).
03-10-2006, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by gocubsgo55
keep it mid-engine
oh, and although 500 HP is nice, out of a V10 it just won't do. At least 600 HP if Acura wants to sell this in my opinion. Also, don't come out with 2 engine options, it just brings down the "wow" factor of the supercar version.
oh, and although 500 HP is nice, out of a V10 it just won't do. At least 600 HP if Acura wants to sell this in my opinion. Also, don't come out with 2 engine options, it just brings down the "wow" factor of the supercar version.
03-11-2006, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by gocubsgo55
keep it mid-engine
oh, and although 500 HP is nice, out of a V10 it just won't do. At least 600 HP if Acura wants to sell this in my opinion. Also, don't come out with 2 engine options, it just brings down the "wow" factor of the supercar version.
oh, and although 500 HP is nice, out of a V10 it just won't do. At least 600 HP if Acura wants to sell this in my opinion. Also, don't come out with 2 engine options, it just brings down the "wow" factor of the supercar version.
I can see how hp has an effect on people with teh new zo6 etc. The only prob prob I see with a 600+hp nsx is that funds will all be directed towards the engine, like the vette, rather than having an awesome car throughout.
If the new nsx stays withing reason on the engine, money saved could be put toward other aspects that aren't applied to a Zo6 and are what seperate well rounded cars cars from performance build cars.
03-12-2006, 03:00 PM
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if the NSX could do this with a V6...
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...E80253C3D9.htm
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...25F0EB6975.htm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...72160170&q=NSX
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...57432827&q=NSX
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...38D41B5759.htm
As you can see the NSX was limited by age, power output, and not being AWD on the track. "not anymore"-Frost-blade
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...02200946&q=NSX
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...E80253C3D9.htm
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...25F0EB6975.htm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...72160170&q=NSX
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...57432827&q=NSX
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...38D41B5759.htm
As you can see the NSX was limited by age, power output, and not being AWD on the track. "not anymore"-Frost-blade
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...02200946&q=NSX
03-16-2006, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
Hmm...for a 10+ year old architecture, the NSX certainly holds its own against some major power players in the world.
03-18-2006, 12:38 PM
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Japan has restrictions on the hp where they limited it to 280/300. If there's no limit to hp then it might be a different story. That's y japanese car are a bit behind in power but not handling
03-18-2006, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by tnl_tsx
Japan has restrictions on the hp where they limited it to 280/300. If there's no limit to hp then it might be a different story. That's y japanese car are a bit behind in power but not handling
03-18-2006, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by tnl_tsx
Japan has restrictions on the hp where they limited it to 280/300. If there's no limit to hp then it might be a different story. That's y japanese car are a bit behind in power but not handling
Not quite...that's "gentlemen's agreement" between all the manufacturers that none of their cars would be rated higher than 276 hp, but the reality was that cars like the Skyline GT-R, Toyota Supra, Fairlady Z, and etc. were severely underrated as a result.The R34 Skyline GT-R, for example, has been rumored to put down closer to 320+ hp from the factory despite the ratings. Same with the Lancer EVO and WRX STi.
03-18-2006, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by swift22
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03-18-2006, 08:54 PM
#797
Burning Brakes
Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
Not quite...that's "gentlemen's agreement" between all the manufacturers that none of their cars would be rated higher than 276 hp, but the reality was that cars like the Skyline GT-R, Toyota Supra, Fairlady Z, and etc. were severely underrated as a result.The R34 Skyline GT-R, for example, has been rumored to put down closer to 320+ hp from the factory despite the ratings. Same with the Lancer EVO and WRX STi.
03-18-2006, 09:44 PM
#798
Drifting
Originally Posted by NSX-Tuner
Honda Type R History Video, includes NSX
1 hr, 12 min long.
Streaming, unfortunately,
Starts with NSX, goes to Integra, Civic, S2000
Video
1 hr, 12 min long.
Streaming, unfortunately,
Starts with NSX, goes to Integra, Civic, S2000
Video
awesome vid though. definitly worth the hour i spent watching it.
03-21-2006, 10:21 AM
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Okay...make up your minds, Honda. 
First they say DB9...now it's the Gallardo and F430. But, I'm sure this is great news for the people who were thumbing there noses at the DB9-fighter...
http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/03/...009-acura-nsx/
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New details emerge on the 2009 Acura NSX
The 2009 Honda/Acura NSX will target the Ferrari F430 and Lamborghini Gallardo, according to Britain’s AutoExpress magazine. Currently, the automaker is said to be testing two “stunning” prototypes — one with a front-engine layout, and one with a mid-engine, like the previous model. The car will have a 500 horsepower V10 and all-wheel-drive — as indicated by previous reports — and will also set the stage for a new design direction at Acura, according to AE. Recently, Germany’s Auto Motor und Sport said the new NSX would be something of a rand tourer and target Aston Martin. Given the use of a high-revving V10 engine, we tend to agree with the AutoExpress analysis. (Pictured right is a Honda supercar concept that might give some hints to the design of the new NSX).
First they say DB9...now it's the Gallardo and F430. But, I'm sure this is great news for the people who were thumbing there noses at the DB9-fighter...
http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/03/...009-acura-nsx/
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New details emerge on the 2009 Acura NSX
The 2009 Honda/Acura NSX will target the Ferrari F430 and Lamborghini Gallardo, according to Britain’s AutoExpress magazine. Currently, the automaker is said to be testing two “stunning” prototypes — one with a front-engine layout, and one with a mid-engine, like the previous model. The car will have a 500 horsepower V10 and all-wheel-drive — as indicated by previous reports — and will also set the stage for a new design direction at Acura, according to AE. Recently, Germany’s Auto Motor und Sport said the new NSX would be something of a rand tourer and target Aston Martin. Given the use of a high-revving V10 engine, we tend to agree with the AutoExpress analysis. (Pictured right is a Honda supercar concept that might give some hints to the design of the new NSX).
