Acura: NSX News
08-01-2014, 01:35 PM
#4361
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sigh
That article just made to dislike the direction Acura is headed today even more.
That article just made to dislike the direction Acura is headed today even more.
08-01-2014, 01:38 PM
#4362
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I love how ppl on a honda/acura forum are such honda haters. Why are you still on here? The forum for the car you have sucks or something? You need Internet friends?
It is too bad honda can't build cars that are reliable and of the same build and material quality as Government Motors.
Honda motors are garbage.
Noone complains about honda switching from double wishbone suspension on all 4 corners to strut setup in front and beam setup in rear. Noone even knows the difference. They just complain about power numbers and bashing fwd.
I don't blame honda at all for their lineup. I blame the consumers. They make cars that sell for profits, unlike original nsx or s2000 that both lost honda money on every car they sold.
It is too bad honda can't build cars that are reliable and of the same build and material quality as Government Motors.
Honda motors are garbage.
Noone complains about honda switching from double wishbone suspension on all 4 corners to strut setup in front and beam setup in rear. Noone even knows the difference. They just complain about power numbers and bashing fwd.
I don't blame honda at all for their lineup. I blame the consumers. They make cars that sell for profits, unlike original nsx or s2000 that both lost honda money on every car they sold.
So how is that working out for Acura so far?
08-01-2014, 01:45 PM
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And certainly, valid. Cars going on fire is not foreign to Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini, and etc. Heck, remember the exploding M3 engines?
STILL...that being said, a brand like Honda, IMO is desperate for some GOOD PR regarding their halo/flagship car after it's been beset by cancellations, delays, more cancellations that has left a fanbase reeling. Speaking for myself, I was guardedly excited about the incoming NSX. So, to have it go up in smoke like this while testing is a black-eye that from a perception's perspective, Honda did not need to have. Above all. Horrid timing.
Just my 2 cents.
STILL...that being said, a brand like Honda, IMO is desperate for some GOOD PR regarding their halo/flagship car after it's been beset by cancellations, delays, more cancellations that has left a fanbase reeling. Speaking for myself, I was guardedly excited about the incoming NSX. So, to have it go up in smoke like this while testing is a black-eye that from a perception's perspective, Honda did not need to have. Above all. Horrid timing.
Just my 2 cents.
08-01-2014, 02:50 PM
#4364
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Honda has completely distanced itself from what made it great. Their competitors have all destroyed them with better value, performance, and styling. All while making a profit! These car manufacturers are not into the business of losing money.
What evidence do you have the Honda lost money on the NSX or S2000? Give me reputable links.
I for one am still a fan of Honda and that is probably why I am so critical of their failures. They need to innovate and advance their value as a product if they want to survive and sadly they have been lost in a sea of mediocrity the last few years.
When was the last time someone told you about that hot new Honda or Acura???
08-01-2014, 03:29 PM
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I love how ppl on a honda/acura forum are such honda haters. Why are you still on here? The forum for the car you have sucks or something? You need Internet friends?
It is too bad honda can't build cars that are reliable and of the same build and material quality as Government Motors.
Honda motors are garbage.
Noone complains about honda switching from double wishbone suspension on all 4 corners to strut setup in front and beam setup in rear. Noone even knows the difference. They just complain about power numbers and bashing fwd.
I don't blame honda at all for their lineup. I blame the consumers. They make cars that sell for profits, unlike original nsx or s2000 that both lost honda money on every car they sold.
It is too bad honda can't build cars that are reliable and of the same build and material quality as Government Motors.
Honda motors are garbage.
Noone complains about honda switching from double wishbone suspension on all 4 corners to strut setup in front and beam setup in rear. Noone even knows the difference. They just complain about power numbers and bashing fwd.
I don't blame honda at all for their lineup. I blame the consumers. They make cars that sell for profits, unlike original nsx or s2000 that both lost honda money on every car they sold.
You are so full of crap.
08-01-2014, 04:59 PM
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Don't feed the obnoxiously obvious troll
08-01-2014, 05:04 PM
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Brian is a troll and he 'got' you all upset. Meanwhile the Napoleonic-douchebag is chuckling away in his mom's basement.
Don't feed him.
Don't feed him.
08-01-2014, 05:10 PM
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Just stating he's full of crap...which is...in every thread he posts.
08-01-2014, 05:27 PM
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Are you crazy??? You can't blame the consumers. Blame Honda/Acura for not meeting the consumers needs. If they can't do that they are destined to fail as a business.
Honda has completely distanced itself from what made it great. Their competitors have all destroyed them with better value, performance, and styling. All while making a profit! These car manufacturers are not into the business of losing money.
What evidence do you have the Honda lost money on the NSX or S2000? Give me reputable links.
I for one am still a fan of Honda and that is probably why I am so critical of their failures. They need to innovate and advance their value as a product if they want to survive and sadly they have been lost in a sea of mediocrity the last few years.
When was the last time someone told you about that hot new Honda or Acura???
Honda has completely distanced itself from what made it great. Their competitors have all destroyed them with better value, performance, and styling. All while making a profit! These car manufacturers are not into the business of losing money.
What evidence do you have the Honda lost money on the NSX or S2000? Give me reputable links.
I for one am still a fan of Honda and that is probably why I am so critical of their failures. They need to innovate and advance their value as a product if they want to survive and sadly they have been lost in a sea of mediocrity the last few years.
When was the last time someone told you about that hot new Honda or Acura???
On the other hand, the S2000 was probably okay in terms of making money, but Honda was losing money for each NSX they built. I think it will be difficult and unrealistic to ask for proof though. But it is not rocket science for one to figure that one out - aluminium monocoque, titanium con rods, hand built, etc. The whole idea was to show what Honda could do back then. So even though Honda was losing money per car sold, it helped build the Honda brand and people began seeing it as a company that can make sporty cars. It made it easier for people to accept the Type R models, and their regular variants.
08-02-2014, 09:57 AM
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To be fair, Honda is doing fine these days. For instance, it will be hard to find a car that offers better performance, features, styling, value, AND (not or) handling than the Accord. Acura on the whole is doing okay. The SUV's and CUV's are carrying the Acura brand while the sedans are doing badly.
On the other hand, the S2000 was probably okay in terms of making money, but Honda was losing money for each NSX they built. I think it will be difficult and unrealistic to ask for proof though. But it is not rocket science for one to figure that one out - aluminium monocoque, titanium con rods, hand built, etc. The whole idea was to show what Honda could do back then. So even though Honda was losing money per car sold, it helped build the Honda brand and people began seeing it as a company that can make sporty cars. It made it easier for people to accept the Type R models, and their regular variants.
On the other hand, the S2000 was probably okay in terms of making money, but Honda was losing money for each NSX they built. I think it will be difficult and unrealistic to ask for proof though. But it is not rocket science for one to figure that one out - aluminium monocoque, titanium con rods, hand built, etc. The whole idea was to show what Honda could do back then. So even though Honda was losing money per car sold, it helped build the Honda brand and people began seeing it as a company that can make sporty cars. It made it easier for people to accept the Type R models, and their regular variants.
08-03-2014, 08:53 AM
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I feel the need...
STILL...that being said, a brand like Honda, IMO is desperate for some GOOD PR regarding their halo/flagship car after it's been beset by cancellations, delays, more cancellations that has left a fanbase reeling.
08-03-2014, 09:56 AM
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if guess still stands at starting at 125K
08-04-2014, 12:47 PM
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Fires are not uncommon during testing, here's a 2016 Ford Super Duty burning down to the ground during testing in the dessert.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/2016-for...g-testing.html
08-05-2014, 06:17 PM
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I feel the need...
08-06-2014, 01:40 AM
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08-06-2014, 01:58 AM
#4377
^ Explains why Honda/Acura paint is the suck
Autoline: You also talked about a new paint process that you're using on your mass production cars that cut, I think you said, 40% energy. Explain that a little bit.
Jon Minto: Well, traditionally we've used a 4 coat and 3 bake process, paint process. By eliminating one of the coating and baking processes, of course we can reduce the energy that's used in the baking process of the ovens, and that's what's allowed us to do it. And we can maintain the same or improve the level of quality.
Autoline: How do you do that? Because, I think, a lot of people watching right now would be, "What do you mean you're putting less paint on a car?" How can that be better?
Jon Minto: Yeah, we... umm... of course we do all the testing to make sure that things such as corrossion protection, etc. are maintained. But just by looking at... work with our supplies for paint development and working with our Honda engineering company for the application, we've found a way that we can manage to use less coats and get the same protection.
Jon Minto: Well, traditionally we've used a 4 coat and 3 bake process, paint process. By eliminating one of the coating and baking processes, of course we can reduce the energy that's used in the baking process of the ovens, and that's what's allowed us to do it. And we can maintain the same or improve the level of quality.
Autoline: How do you do that? Because, I think, a lot of people watching right now would be, "What do you mean you're putting less paint on a car?" How can that be better?
Jon Minto: Yeah, we... umm... of course we do all the testing to make sure that things such as corrossion protection, etc. are maintained.
But just by looking at... work with our supplies for paint development and working with our Honda engineering company for the application, we've found a way that we can manage to use less coats and get the same protection.
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08-06-2014, 11:59 AM
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I drive a Subata.
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I bet the VaporSX will have higher pricing tag and lower performance figures than GTR. 
08-06-2014, 12:07 PM
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08-06-2014, 12:59 PM
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08-06-2014, 01:09 PM
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But they can't accept the fact that those people do not give a shit about your 30mpg and they shouldn't.
08-06-2014, 01:34 PM
#4383
I'm the Firestarter
08-06-2014, 03:26 PM
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correction, All cars will rust. it is just a matter of time. unless Audi is made of gold.
wait, can gold rust?
wait, can gold rust?
08-07-2014, 05:36 AM
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I feel the need...
Not sure why this video post is in the NSX thread. It is referring to new paint process in Acura's "mass produced" vehicle lines, not the NSX.
08-07-2014, 08:11 AM
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If i wanted something FAST the last thing i would be worried about is getting 30mpg driving.
08-07-2014, 08:23 AM
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08-07-2014, 12:36 PM
#4390
99 TL, 06 E350
So what if the NSX went down in flames, isn’t that what most new Ferarri’s are doing?
Ferrari FF
Ferrari FF
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08-07-2014, 01:07 PM
#4391
Team Owner
There are no surprises anymore about Ferrari on fire.
but an unreliable Honda? that will kill Honda.
but an unreliable Honda? that will kill Honda.
08-07-2014, 07:46 PM
#4392
6G TLX-S
^^^^^
Agree.
The Honda/Acura brand is solely built on exceptional Japanese reliabilities.
Honda/Acura vehicles are not suppose to breakdown, let alone on fire.
Agree.
The Honda/Acura brand is solely built on exceptional Japanese reliabilities.
Honda/Acura vehicles are not suppose to breakdown, let alone on fire.
08-08-2014, 07:47 AM
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08-08-2014, 12:31 PM
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It's funny how the engineers were wearing flame suits in the car...it's like they were expecting a fire....
And boy were they calm, simply took out the camera and started snapping pics while the car was on fire.
Lets just say odds are it will be safe to assume that the days of Type-S and Type-R versions are probably long gone. And if it has taken them 20 years to come out with a new nsx, odds are it will take them at min 10 years to come out with a type -r version to compete with something already outdated
08-14-2014, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by supergt.net
Never flinching in the tough conditions! Weider Modulo NSX CONCEPT-GT scores a stunning win
The FUJI GT 300km RACE, Round 5 of the 2014 AUTOBACS SUPER GT took place at Fuji Speedway in Shizuoka Pref. on Aug. 10. In a race thrashed by the effects of Typhoon #11 that brought out the Safety Car twice, the No. 18 Weider Modulo NSX CONCEPT-GT driven by Naoki Yamamoto and Frederic Makowiecki was the winner of the GT500 class race, bringing the Honda NSX CONCEPT-GT its first win of the season. In the GT300 class race the winner for the first time this season was the No. 61 SUBARU BRZ R&D SPORT that led all the way for a pole to checkers victory.
The FUJI GT 300km RACE, Round 5 of the 2014 AUTOBACS SUPER GT took place at Fuji Speedway in Shizuoka Pref. on Aug. 10. In a race thrashed by the effects of Typhoon #11 that brought out the Safety Car twice, the No. 18 Weider Modulo NSX CONCEPT-GT driven by Naoki Yamamoto and Frederic Makowiecki was the winner of the GT500 class race, bringing the Honda NSX CONCEPT-GT its first win of the season. In the GT300 class race the winner for the first time this season was the No. 61 SUBARU BRZ R&D SPORT that led all the way for a pole to checkers victory.
08-15-2014, 01:23 AM
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10-07-2014, 04:38 PM
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Once Again, The Acura NSX Targets Ferrari For A Fraction Of The Price
That's late October 2015. Which means you probably won't see anything on the road until Spring/Summer 2016.
Once Again, The Acura NSX Targets Ferrari For A Fraction Of The Price
It's been kind of a while since we've heard anything about the upcoming 2015 Acura NSX, but the folks at Honda are still apparently hammering away at their hybrid supercar. And now they've released some actual performance targets: Ferrari 458 performance for an Audi R8 price tag. Sound familiar?
It should, because the original NSX was benchmarked against the Ferrari 328 and 348 back during its development in the 1980s. It looks like Honda wants the new car to go the same way.
Here's what NSX development chief Ted Klaus told What Car:
Of course, the new NSX will be a very different car than the 458 Italia, using a twin turbo hybrid V6 instead of the Ferrari's naturally aspirated V8. But with more and more supercars going hybrid, like the Audi R8, it should be in good company.
Klaus also implied there could be more variants of the new NSX down the road, like a more high-performance version or a convertible, but they haven't decided which to go with first.
Honda says the next NSX will be unveiled in production form a year from now at the 2015 Tokyo Motor Show. It's been a long, long wait for this car, and Honda is talking a big game.
Let's hope the NSX can back it up.
It's been kind of a while since we've heard anything about the upcoming 2015 Acura NSX, but the folks at Honda are still apparently hammering away at their hybrid supercar. And now they've released some actual performance targets: Ferrari 458 performance for an Audi R8 price tag. Sound familiar?
It should, because the original NSX was benchmarked against the Ferrari 328 and 348 back during its development in the 1980s. It looks like Honda wants the new car to go the same way.
Here's what NSX development chief Ted Klaus told What Car:
'We have to achieve the type of acceleration that the customer is achieving with the Ferrari,' said Klaus. 'More importantly we have to achieve this every day and also at the Nurburgring.'
However, he said that the intention is to keep Honda's new petrol-electric hybrid supercar more affordable than the 458. 'I think we are aiming within the range of the Audi R8,' he said. 'I realise that is a wide range but the NSX will still be extremely accessible.'
However, he said that the intention is to keep Honda's new petrol-electric hybrid supercar more affordable than the 458. 'I think we are aiming within the range of the Audi R8,' he said. 'I realise that is a wide range but the NSX will still be extremely accessible.'
Klaus also implied there could be more variants of the new NSX down the road, like a more high-performance version or a convertible, but they haven't decided which to go with first.
Honda says the next NSX will be unveiled in production form a year from now at the 2015 Tokyo Motor Show. It's been a long, long wait for this car, and Honda is talking a big game.
Let's hope the NSX can back it up.
That's late October 2015. Which means you probably won't see anything on the road until Spring/Summer 2016.
10-07-2014, 04:42 PM
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Vaporcar. Nothing to see. Move along. 
10-07-2014, 05:33 PM
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Once Again, The Acura NSX Targets Ferrari For A Fraction Of The Price
That's late October 2015. Which means you probably won't see anything on the road until Spring/Summer 2016.
That's late October 2015. Which means you probably won't see anything on the road until Spring/Summer 2016.