Acura: ILX News
02-07-2012, 08:46 PM
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The 2013 Acura ILX is here, and it will be one of the new 1st-responders to address the perception of Acura's weakened health. It might just be our eyes, but the transition to Acura-spec wheels and paint job makes this look much more of-the-family than the concept shown in Detroit. However, the production lines remain true, minus some of the chrome showy bits from the concept.
Motivation will be provided by either a 150-horsepower, 2.0-liter 4-cylinder working through a 5-speed automatic, a 201-hp, 2.4-liter with a 6-speed manual, or the 1st Acura hybrid with a 111-hp, 1.5-liter 4-cylinder getting help from Integrated Motor Assist and a CVT, good for fuel economy estimates of 35/38 miles per gallon, city/highway. Follow the jump for a press release with more information, and look out for live pics from our team at the Chicago Auto Show.
Acura Debuts 2013 RDX and All-New ILX Sedan at Chicago Auto Show
Sporty styling, new technology and efficient powertrains are highlights
CHICAGO, Feb. 8, 2012 – Following up on its blockbuster appearance at this year's Detroit auto show, Acura today unveiled production versions of two new vehicles at the Chicago Auto Show. A completely redesigned 2013 Acura RDX crossover sport utility vehicle and the all-new 2013 Acura ILX luxury compact sedan were shown. Both new Acura models are scheduled for launch in the Spring.
"We are excited to be launching these 2 new luxury models as the gateway of Acura's revitalized product lineup," said Jeff Conrad, vice president and general manager of Acura. "As we embark on our second 25 years as a premium luxury-performance automobile brand, we are excited about the role these 2 vehicles will play in welcoming a new generation of luxury car buyers to the Acura brand."
2013 Acura ILX
The 2013 Acura ILX compact sedan is an all-new model that is positioned as the gateway into the Acura brand. The primary target customers for the new ILX are Generation Y- successful 20 and 30-somethings moving into the luxury car ranks but looking for high-value propositions in their purchases.
"1st-time luxury buyers tend to place a high value on exterior styling, affordability and environmental issues, and that's what we have created with the new Acura ILX," said Jon Ikeda, head of the Acura Design Studio. "The strategy behind this new model is to position ILX as the first opportunity for many young buyers to enter the luxury market."
Sleek and sporty, the ILX combines luxury, performance and efficiency. While maintaining a strong emphasis on stylish and aerodynamically efficient exterior design, the ILX features a large and airy greenhouse that provides excellent outward visibility. As a 5-passenger luxury sedan, the ILX combines compact proportions with a spacious passenger interior and ample cargo space- perfect attributes for young professionals on the go.
The ILX will feature 3 advanced, sporty and efficient powertrain choices, including Acura's 1st-ever gas-electric hybrid. The entry-level ILX will be powered by a 2.0-liter inline 4-cylinder engine producing 150 horsepower at 6,500 rpm and 140 lb-ft of torque at 4,300 rpm. Paired with a Sequential SportShift 5-speed automatic transmission, the ILX 2.0L will deliver an EPA estimated* city/highway fuel economy of 24/32 mpg.
For those who seek a more dynamic driving experience, the ILX can be equipped with a 2.4-liter engine with an output of 201 horsepower at 7,000 rpm and 170 lb-ft torque at 4,300 rpm. Mated to a close-ratio, 6-speed manual transmission, the ILX 2.4L will deliver an EPA estimated* city/highway fuel economy of 20/29 mpg.
Marking the debut of Acura's 1st ever hybrid model, the ILX Hybrid makes use of a 1.5-liter inline engine and an Integrated Motor Assist® electric motor. Paired with a Continuously Variable Transmission (CVT), the ILX 1.5L Hybrid will deliver an EPA estimated* city/highway fuel economy rating of 35/38 mpg.
The hybrid drivetrain uses the gasoline engine as the primary power source, while an electric motor provides additional power when needed. A lithium-ion battery pack is used to capture and store electricity for the 20 horsepower electric motor. Together, the gasoline engine and electric motor produce 111 horsepower at 5,500 rpm and 127 lb-ft of torque between 1,000-3,000 rpm. During braking, the gasoline engine deactivates and the electric motor acts as a generator to recharge the battery pack. At a stop, the 1.5-liter engine can enter idle-stop mode to save fuel and reduce emissions. The engine remains off until the brake pedal is released.
The ILX chassis utilizes advanced MacPherson strut front and multi-link rear suspension systems, along with new Amplitude Reactive Dampers. The dampers operate in 2 distinct performance parameters to simultaneously provide superior ride comfort and precision handling. In addition, Motion Adaptive Electric Power Steering is used for excellent steering feel and improved fuel efficiency. The result is a chassis with a high level of refinement, confident handling and a nimble and sporty driving experience.
The ILX will feature a high-quality, well-appointed interior that is smart, spacious and sporty. It will offer a number of new, high-value features including a standard Keyless Access System with smart entry and pushbutton start, along with Pandora® internet radio interface and SMS text message function for smart connectivity with the world.
As with all Acura models, the ILX will have a long list of standard features, multiple trim levels (a Premium Package and Technology Package), and excellent standard safety features- including Acura's acclaimed Advanced Compatibility Engineering™ (ACE™) body structure, front, side and side-curtain airbags, 4-channel anti-lock brakes and Vehicle Stability Assist™ (VSA®). Although yet to be tested, Acura anticipates that the ILX will achieve top crash safety ratings from both the NHTSA and IIHS.
The available Premium Package features leather seating surfaces, heated front seats, an upgraded 360 watt stereo system, a rear view camera and an Active Sound Cancellation system to make for a quieter cabin.
Building on the Premium Package, the available Technology Package adds Acura's award winning ELS Surround® audio system and a full complement of relevant technologies, including AcuraLink® Satellite Communication System, Acura Navigation System with Voice Recognition™, AcuraLink Real-Time Traffic with Traffic Rerouting™, and AcuraLink Real-Time Weather™ with radar image maps. The navigation system makes use of a hard disk drive (HDD) with 60 gigabytes of storage capacity- including 15 gigabytes that can be specifically allocated for music storage. With the available Premium or Technology Package, a new multi-view rear camera is used.
The Acura ILX will be manufactured (using U.S. and globally sourced parts), exclusively at the company's state-of-the-art Greensburg, Indiana plant, one of only three plants worldwide to receive J.D. Power and Associates' 2011 Platinum Award for outstanding product quality, and the top award for any factory in North America.
2013 Acura RDX
The 2013 Acura RDX, the second generation of Acura's five-passenger crossover SUV, will up the ante with a new approach to achieving both advanced performance and fuel efficiency via a new engine, transmission and all-wheel-drive system.
The 2013 RDX rides on a 4-wheel independent suspension with a MacPherson strut front and multi-link rear suspension design. A longer wheelbase, wider track and lower center of gravity provide the foundation for the new RDX's improved handling and ride quality. New chassis technology for 2013 includes Acura-exclusive Amplitude Reactive Dampers and a new Motion Adaptive Electric Power Steering system that replaces the previous hydraulic steering. The 2013 RDX will be available in front-wheel-drive and all-wheel-drive variants.
Standard features for 2013 RDX include bold new 5-spoke 18-inch wheels and improved 4-wheel disc brakes that include an Anti-lock Braking System (ABS) with Electronic Brake Distribution (EBD) and Brake Assist. Not only do the brakes provide better performance, but they also incorporate improvements to lessen brake drag for reduced rolling resistance and improved fuel economy.
Replacing the turbocharged 2.3-liter inline 4-cylinder used with the previous RDX, the 2013 RDX will now have as standard equipment a 3.5-liter V-6 engine that produces 273 horsepower- 33 more than the outgoing model. For even higher performance and improved fuel economy, the RDX makes use of an all-new 6-speed automatic transmission with a new lock-up torque converter. The RDX also gets a new, lighter weight all-wheel-drive system that provides outstanding performance and safety with increased efficiency to achieve higher fuel economy.
With an EPA estimated* city/highway fuel economy rating of 20/28 mpg, front-wheel-drive versions of the 2013 RDX are expected to offer the best fuel economy of any gasoline-powered V-6 luxury SUV in the class. All-wheel-drive models will deliver an EPA estimated* city/highway fuel economy of 19/27 mpg.
The RDX boasts a sleek and more aerodynamic body, evolving RDX from a sporty, compact SUV to a more formal SUV appearance with a longer, sculpted hood and styling that is more elegant and sophisticated to match the Acura philosophy of timeless, beautiful design.
Inside the 2013 RDX, new sweeping shapes, matte surface trim, and generous use of leather combine to give the RDX interior an upscale look and luxury feel that Acura customers have come to expect. Abundant use of sound deadening materials and Active Sound Control team to provide an exceptionally quiet cabin. Additional interior features, such as larger door openings, more passenger room, increased cargo volume and an available power rear tailgate make the RDX interior even more accommodating and flexible.
The 2013 RDX will receive a host of new technologies including Pandora® internet radio interface, SMS text message feature, a Keyless Access System with smart entry and pushbutton start, and a three view rear camera. An available Technology Package will provide a full complement of relevant technologies, including an Acura ELS Surround® audio system, AcuraLink® Satellite Communication System, Acura Navigation System with Voice Recognition™, AcuraLink Real-Time Traffic with Traffic Rerouting™, and AcuraLink Real-Time Weather™ with radar image maps. New for 2013, an even more advanced navigation system utilizes a hard disk drive (HDD) with 60 gigabytes of storage capacity- including 15 gigabytes that can be allocated for music storage.
Passenger safety has always been a cornerstone of every Acura model. In addition to using Acura's acclaimed Advanced Compatibility Engineering™ (ACE™) body structure, the 2013 RDX employs new design features and myriad high strength materials aimed specifically at occupant protection. Although yet to be tested, Acura anticipates that the RDX will achieve top crash safety ratings from both the NHTSA and IIHS.
The 2013 RDX will be produced (using U.S. and globally sourced parts) exclusively by the company's East Liberty, Ohio plant- home to one of four of the top five-rated assembly lines in North America in the J.D. Power and Associates' 2011 Initial Quality Study (IQS). The first generation RDX is produced at the Marysville, Ohio auto plant.
About Acura
Acura offers a full line of technologically advanced performance luxury vehicles through a network of 272 dealers within the United States. The 2012 Acura lineup features 6 distinctive models including the RL luxury performance sedan, the TL performance luxury sedan, the TSX sports sedan and Sport Wagon, the turbocharged RDX crossover SUV, the MDX luxury SUV and the ZDX 4-door sports coupe.
For consumer information, please visit www.acura.com.
*Preliminary EPA mileage estimate determined by Honda. Final EPA mileage estimates not available at the time of printing. Use for comparison purposes only.
Sporty styling, new technology and efficient powertrains are highlights
CHICAGO, Feb. 8, 2012 – Following up on its blockbuster appearance at this year's Detroit auto show, Acura today unveiled production versions of two new vehicles at the Chicago Auto Show. A completely redesigned 2013 Acura RDX crossover sport utility vehicle and the all-new 2013 Acura ILX luxury compact sedan were shown. Both new Acura models are scheduled for launch in the Spring.
"We are excited to be launching these 2 new luxury models as the gateway of Acura's revitalized product lineup," said Jeff Conrad, vice president and general manager of Acura. "As we embark on our second 25 years as a premium luxury-performance automobile brand, we are excited about the role these 2 vehicles will play in welcoming a new generation of luxury car buyers to the Acura brand."
2013 Acura ILX
The 2013 Acura ILX compact sedan is an all-new model that is positioned as the gateway into the Acura brand. The primary target customers for the new ILX are Generation Y- successful 20 and 30-somethings moving into the luxury car ranks but looking for high-value propositions in their purchases.
"1st-time luxury buyers tend to place a high value on exterior styling, affordability and environmental issues, and that's what we have created with the new Acura ILX," said Jon Ikeda, head of the Acura Design Studio. "The strategy behind this new model is to position ILX as the first opportunity for many young buyers to enter the luxury market."
Sleek and sporty, the ILX combines luxury, performance and efficiency. While maintaining a strong emphasis on stylish and aerodynamically efficient exterior design, the ILX features a large and airy greenhouse that provides excellent outward visibility. As a 5-passenger luxury sedan, the ILX combines compact proportions with a spacious passenger interior and ample cargo space- perfect attributes for young professionals on the go.
The ILX will feature 3 advanced, sporty and efficient powertrain choices, including Acura's 1st-ever gas-electric hybrid. The entry-level ILX will be powered by a 2.0-liter inline 4-cylinder engine producing 150 horsepower at 6,500 rpm and 140 lb-ft of torque at 4,300 rpm. Paired with a Sequential SportShift 5-speed automatic transmission, the ILX 2.0L will deliver an EPA estimated* city/highway fuel economy of 24/32 mpg.
For those who seek a more dynamic driving experience, the ILX can be equipped with a 2.4-liter engine with an output of 201 horsepower at 7,000 rpm and 170 lb-ft torque at 4,300 rpm. Mated to a close-ratio, 6-speed manual transmission, the ILX 2.4L will deliver an EPA estimated* city/highway fuel economy of 20/29 mpg.
Marking the debut of Acura's 1st ever hybrid model, the ILX Hybrid makes use of a 1.5-liter inline engine and an Integrated Motor Assist® electric motor. Paired with a Continuously Variable Transmission (CVT), the ILX 1.5L Hybrid will deliver an EPA estimated* city/highway fuel economy rating of 35/38 mpg.
The hybrid drivetrain uses the gasoline engine as the primary power source, while an electric motor provides additional power when needed. A lithium-ion battery pack is used to capture and store electricity for the 20 horsepower electric motor. Together, the gasoline engine and electric motor produce 111 horsepower at 5,500 rpm and 127 lb-ft of torque between 1,000-3,000 rpm. During braking, the gasoline engine deactivates and the electric motor acts as a generator to recharge the battery pack. At a stop, the 1.5-liter engine can enter idle-stop mode to save fuel and reduce emissions. The engine remains off until the brake pedal is released.
The ILX chassis utilizes advanced MacPherson strut front and multi-link rear suspension systems, along with new Amplitude Reactive Dampers. The dampers operate in 2 distinct performance parameters to simultaneously provide superior ride comfort and precision handling. In addition, Motion Adaptive Electric Power Steering is used for excellent steering feel and improved fuel efficiency. The result is a chassis with a high level of refinement, confident handling and a nimble and sporty driving experience.
The ILX will feature a high-quality, well-appointed interior that is smart, spacious and sporty. It will offer a number of new, high-value features including a standard Keyless Access System with smart entry and pushbutton start, along with Pandora® internet radio interface and SMS text message function for smart connectivity with the world.
As with all Acura models, the ILX will have a long list of standard features, multiple trim levels (a Premium Package and Technology Package), and excellent standard safety features- including Acura's acclaimed Advanced Compatibility Engineering™ (ACE™) body structure, front, side and side-curtain airbags, 4-channel anti-lock brakes and Vehicle Stability Assist™ (VSA®). Although yet to be tested, Acura anticipates that the ILX will achieve top crash safety ratings from both the NHTSA and IIHS.
The available Premium Package features leather seating surfaces, heated front seats, an upgraded 360 watt stereo system, a rear view camera and an Active Sound Cancellation system to make for a quieter cabin.
Building on the Premium Package, the available Technology Package adds Acura's award winning ELS Surround® audio system and a full complement of relevant technologies, including AcuraLink® Satellite Communication System, Acura Navigation System with Voice Recognition™, AcuraLink Real-Time Traffic with Traffic Rerouting™, and AcuraLink Real-Time Weather™ with radar image maps. The navigation system makes use of a hard disk drive (HDD) with 60 gigabytes of storage capacity- including 15 gigabytes that can be specifically allocated for music storage. With the available Premium or Technology Package, a new multi-view rear camera is used.
The Acura ILX will be manufactured (using U.S. and globally sourced parts), exclusively at the company's state-of-the-art Greensburg, Indiana plant, one of only three plants worldwide to receive J.D. Power and Associates' 2011 Platinum Award for outstanding product quality, and the top award for any factory in North America.
2013 Acura RDX
The 2013 Acura RDX, the second generation of Acura's five-passenger crossover SUV, will up the ante with a new approach to achieving both advanced performance and fuel efficiency via a new engine, transmission and all-wheel-drive system.
The 2013 RDX rides on a 4-wheel independent suspension with a MacPherson strut front and multi-link rear suspension design. A longer wheelbase, wider track and lower center of gravity provide the foundation for the new RDX's improved handling and ride quality. New chassis technology for 2013 includes Acura-exclusive Amplitude Reactive Dampers and a new Motion Adaptive Electric Power Steering system that replaces the previous hydraulic steering. The 2013 RDX will be available in front-wheel-drive and all-wheel-drive variants.
Standard features for 2013 RDX include bold new 5-spoke 18-inch wheels and improved 4-wheel disc brakes that include an Anti-lock Braking System (ABS) with Electronic Brake Distribution (EBD) and Brake Assist. Not only do the brakes provide better performance, but they also incorporate improvements to lessen brake drag for reduced rolling resistance and improved fuel economy.
Replacing the turbocharged 2.3-liter inline 4-cylinder used with the previous RDX, the 2013 RDX will now have as standard equipment a 3.5-liter V-6 engine that produces 273 horsepower- 33 more than the outgoing model. For even higher performance and improved fuel economy, the RDX makes use of an all-new 6-speed automatic transmission with a new lock-up torque converter. The RDX also gets a new, lighter weight all-wheel-drive system that provides outstanding performance and safety with increased efficiency to achieve higher fuel economy.
With an EPA estimated* city/highway fuel economy rating of 20/28 mpg, front-wheel-drive versions of the 2013 RDX are expected to offer the best fuel economy of any gasoline-powered V-6 luxury SUV in the class. All-wheel-drive models will deliver an EPA estimated* city/highway fuel economy of 19/27 mpg.
The RDX boasts a sleek and more aerodynamic body, evolving RDX from a sporty, compact SUV to a more formal SUV appearance with a longer, sculpted hood and styling that is more elegant and sophisticated to match the Acura philosophy of timeless, beautiful design.
Inside the 2013 RDX, new sweeping shapes, matte surface trim, and generous use of leather combine to give the RDX interior an upscale look and luxury feel that Acura customers have come to expect. Abundant use of sound deadening materials and Active Sound Control team to provide an exceptionally quiet cabin. Additional interior features, such as larger door openings, more passenger room, increased cargo volume and an available power rear tailgate make the RDX interior even more accommodating and flexible.
The 2013 RDX will receive a host of new technologies including Pandora® internet radio interface, SMS text message feature, a Keyless Access System with smart entry and pushbutton start, and a three view rear camera. An available Technology Package will provide a full complement of relevant technologies, including an Acura ELS Surround® audio system, AcuraLink® Satellite Communication System, Acura Navigation System with Voice Recognition™, AcuraLink Real-Time Traffic with Traffic Rerouting™, and AcuraLink Real-Time Weather™ with radar image maps. New for 2013, an even more advanced navigation system utilizes a hard disk drive (HDD) with 60 gigabytes of storage capacity- including 15 gigabytes that can be allocated for music storage.
Passenger safety has always been a cornerstone of every Acura model. In addition to using Acura's acclaimed Advanced Compatibility Engineering™ (ACE™) body structure, the 2013 RDX employs new design features and myriad high strength materials aimed specifically at occupant protection. Although yet to be tested, Acura anticipates that the RDX will achieve top crash safety ratings from both the NHTSA and IIHS.
The 2013 RDX will be produced (using U.S. and globally sourced parts) exclusively by the company's East Liberty, Ohio plant- home to one of four of the top five-rated assembly lines in North America in the J.D. Power and Associates' 2011 Initial Quality Study (IQS). The first generation RDX is produced at the Marysville, Ohio auto plant.
About Acura
Acura offers a full line of technologically advanced performance luxury vehicles through a network of 272 dealers within the United States. The 2012 Acura lineup features 6 distinctive models including the RL luxury performance sedan, the TL performance luxury sedan, the TSX sports sedan and Sport Wagon, the turbocharged RDX crossover SUV, the MDX luxury SUV and the ZDX 4-door sports coupe.
For consumer information, please visit www.acura.com.
*Preliminary EPA mileage estimate determined by Honda. Final EPA mileage estimates not available at the time of printing. Use for comparison purposes only.
Last edited by TSX69; 02-07-2012 at 08:51 PM.
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02-07-2012, 09:45 PM
#402
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Thanks, TSX69! I followed the link you provided and found the other photos - is it me or is it the paint colour or what? This suddenly looks so bland in this dull gray colour! So not like that concept vehicle..... maybe it will look hotter in other colours? I know the rims are obviously not as nice as the concept, but overall, in this gray colour, it just looks dull.... hmm..... there has to be a nicer colour than this to show off a brand new vehicle in!
02-07-2012, 10:20 PM
#403
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TSX wagon lives on?
02-07-2012, 10:22 PM
#404
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I knew I was right about the ILX getting the bored out Civic engine thats used in the JDM CR-V called the R20. the 10hp/12tq jump is good however I would have thought it would match more closely with the mpg the R18 gets which is as high as 41mpg on the HF model but oh well. My mom loves this car and It will be her next Acura. I pick all her cars out since i was 16..lol. I've had a good record so she continues trusting my choice. To this day that woman doesn't even test drive the car b4 buying. Okay I've opined enough. 
02-07-2012, 10:41 PM
#405
Racer
These arent earth dreams engines are they? Maybe in a year or two the ILX and the RDX will get a power / torque bump
150 hp in the ILX? Thats just not enough. It's not enough for anyone except perhaps old ladies.
150 hp in the ILX? Thats just not enough. It's not enough for anyone except perhaps old ladies.
02-08-2012, 12:21 AM
#406
I have to say I'm disappointed.
The rear 1/4 just looks weird. Too stubby.
Maybe it'll look better in person?
And WTF is up with the wheel gap? I know Honda tends to have pretty big wheel gaps, but this is just ridiculous.
02-08-2012, 12:33 AM
#407
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02-08-2012, 12:34 AM
#408
I told you so. THis car will be a big let down.
Just look at its fuel economy with such underpowered engine. than just go over the dial gauges and door trim. I am not even going over its out dated design features and cramped interior.
this car is not worth saving few thousand over TSX.
TSX has that raised side mirror buttons.
There are curves in the interior that are not visible from inside and have spacious feeling.
Just look at its fuel economy with such underpowered engine. than just go over the dial gauges and door trim. I am not even going over its out dated design features and cramped interior.
this car is not worth saving few thousand over TSX.
TSX has that raised side mirror buttons.
There are curves in the interior that are not visible from inside and have spacious feeling.
02-08-2012, 12:43 AM
#409
02-08-2012, 06:42 AM
#412
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Interior
Typical Acura design but it does look like a lot less buttons in the center ... not so much on the steering wheel. Really liking the 6-sided shape around the navi & how the non-navi has an extra frame around it to make up for the smaller screen. Guess Acura is going the way of uncovered cup holders ...
02-08-2012, 06:58 AM
#413
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02-08-2012, 07:44 AM
#414
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The more things change the more they stay the same. 150HP in a supposed luxury line? with that type of FE? Seriously? I had to check the calendar to make sure it wasn't April 1st. If the 2.4 was available with a AT all would be forgiven, but nope, 201 HP is the performance version so no AT. 
And still 201HP? Would it have killed them to tune it for 10-15 more?
Too bad, it has good styling inside and out IMO.
And still 201HP? Would it have killed them to tune it for 10-15 more? Too bad, it has good styling inside and out IMO.
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02-08-2012, 08:50 AM
#415
Burning Brakes
Those engines could really use DI. The resulting power and FE increase would put it on par if not slightly above the competition.
If they're planning to add DI in a year or two, I see little reason to buy the first year model. Why go for the inferior engine?
If they're planning to add DI in a year or two, I see little reason to buy the first year model. Why go for the inferior engine?
02-08-2012, 09:04 AM
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Definitely isn't bad looking but yeah WTF with the engines. Acura still can't put out a complete package.
02-08-2012, 10:07 AM
#417
It will look nice with wheels and a drop for sure, no exhausts is interesting, and the interior is actually quite nice
The biggest disappointment is the powertrain selection, They will lost ALOT of sales on the fact that there is no 200 hp automatic, perhaps this was done to avoid stepping on the toes of the TSX, but 150, while im sure will be adequate for the car, isnt enough i feel. Even 170 would have given the car alot of pep for it's size, but I dont think they fully thought this one through
The biggest disappointment is the powertrain selection, They will lost ALOT of sales on the fact that there is no 200 hp automatic, perhaps this was done to avoid stepping on the toes of the TSX, but 150, while im sure will be adequate for the car, isnt enough i feel. Even 170 would have given the car alot of pep for it's size, but I dont think they fully thought this one through
02-08-2012, 10:23 AM
#418
Race Director
I could see them offering the 150 HP engine IF it provided some good mileage numbers - but they are barely average. I expected the 2.4 to have better numbers as well. Acura is going the BMW route and waiting to up the ante with drivetrains in later model years.
02-08-2012, 10:44 AM
#420
The sizzle in the Steak
...and the award for the goofiest looking nav screen design goes to: The ILX
Did it really need a hexagon shape?!?!?
Did it really need a hexagon shape?!?!?
02-08-2012, 10:46 AM
#421
The sizzle in the Steak
150 bhp....yup this REALLY did come from the Civic.
02-08-2012, 10:46 AM
#422
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02-08-2012, 11:34 AM
#423
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I don't see anything that's appealing to me with this car.
02-08-2012, 12:36 PM
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02-08-2012, 12:39 PM
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They are still rocking that crap!?
My 2005 TL had that!
My 2005 TL had that!
02-08-2012, 12:44 PM
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02-08-2012, 12:57 PM
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Wow the rear looks terrible. I think cars look weird anymore that don't have exhaust openings unless that is a pic of the hybrid.
02-08-2012, 01:07 PM
#431
However, I think its safe to say that this car wasn't intended for most of the forum dwellers here who have moved beyond entry level cars. For those of you with teens that are starting to drive, would this appeal to you as a parent if you could afford a little more than a Civic as a first car for your kid?
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02-08-2012, 01:12 PM
#432
This is about what I expected for the 2.0L, the K20 from the base RSX did 160 but that was before the HP spec was tweeked in 2007. It's the Hybrid drivetrain that is disappointing. I was really hoping for a unique pairing of the existing components to offer some separation from the HCH beyond the extra luxury goodies and styling.
However, I think its safe to say that this car wasn't intended for most of the forum dwellers here who have moved beyond entry level cars. For those of you with teens that are starting to drive, would this appeal to you as a parent if you could afford a little more than a Civic as a first car for your kid?
However, I think its safe to say that this car wasn't intended for most of the forum dwellers here who have moved beyond entry level cars. For those of you with teens that are starting to drive, would this appeal to you as a parent if you could afford a little more than a Civic as a first car for your kid?
The problem is the same: Acura COULD get it RIGHT 100% but, as often happened the lest 4-5 years, they forgot sth on the road and there you get an old AT, an old engine and so on...
02-08-2012, 02:08 PM
#433
Burning Brakes
Not bad for an entry luxury, but I'll be aiming more upstream on Acura's totem pole. The TSX seems to be a much better entry level luxury sedan. Acura would fare a little better keeping the TSX in it's lineup. The ILX is starting to look like a glorified Honda and can easily blur the line between the two brands.
Oh, and Acura interiors are "advancing" ahead of the exterior designs.
Where's the 2002-2006 design team?
Oh, and Acura interiors are "advancing" ahead of the exterior designs.
Where's the 2002-2006 design team?
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02-08-2012, 02:19 PM
#434
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However, I think its safe to say that this car wasn't intended for most of the forum dwellers here who have moved beyond entry level cars. For those of you with teens that are starting to drive, would this appeal to you as a parent if you could afford a little more than a Civic as a first car for your kid?
I can only hope the ED engines will put some life into this car in a couple of years but with Honda's recent track record, I'm not holding my breathe.
02-08-2012, 02:28 PM
#435
The sizzle in the Steak
I have interest in a car exactly like this for the wife (who needs an AT). Looks great, nice feature set with the latest toys. What's not to like? I'll still take it out for a test drive but I'm almost certain that 150HP isn't enough, especially not with that mileage. The power trains are a huge letdown.
I can only hope the ED engines will put some life into this car in a couple of years but with Honda's recent track record, I'm not holding my breathe.
I can only hope the ED engines will put some life into this car in a couple of years but with Honda's recent track record, I'm not holding my breathe.
02-08-2012, 03:13 PM
#437
I really want to like this car: it's got the features I want / need (I'd get the tech package), but I am not going to be the first to buy it because I know that down the road they will offer the ED engines on these (heck, the new accord will be getting a DI 4-banger).
Also, regarding the 201 hp engine, the problem is that they can't offer the a/t because it would kill all tsx sales. They are leasing 2012 tsx's for too low right now and creating the same car (but a tad bit smaller), with more options, for less, will cannibalize sales and kill dealers. I expect that when this car gets its update, it'll be a solid buy. For now, stick to the tsx or hold out with your current car.
Also, regarding the 201 hp engine, the problem is that they can't offer the a/t because it would kill all tsx sales. They are leasing 2012 tsx's for too low right now and creating the same car (but a tad bit smaller), with more options, for less, will cannibalize sales and kill dealers. I expect that when this car gets its update, it'll be a solid buy. For now, stick to the tsx or hold out with your current car.
02-08-2012, 03:21 PM
#438
i thought the least they could've done was give it the 6-spd to differentiate it from the Civic. I knew the 2.0L was going to be standard, but it should have been the 2.4L with the 6-spd auto to make this car tantalizing from a spec-only point of view.
the engine #'s are disappointing. and the 2.4L with the manual only? FTL, Acura. Even fuel mileage isn't great.
I do like the exterior, still. I didn't realize the end was that stubby, it looked more proportional in the concept pics. But that's not enough to make me hate it.
Interior is expected, can't hide the econo-car roots (slim center console, HVAC vents practically next to each other, etc) but I think they did a good job at Acura-zing it, much better than what GM did with its Buick offering.
The wrinkled leather is a little telling of the expected quality of material (not good). Hate the one-seat only map pocket on the back, for some reason that just stood out like a sore thumb to me.
I'm still giving it a 7.5/10, though, I think it was a good effort, much better than the RSX. But pricing is still a concern - if they even dare cross 30K for this thing they're really smoking the good stuff.
the engine #'s are disappointing. and the 2.4L with the manual only? FTL, Acura. Even fuel mileage isn't great.
I do like the exterior, still. I didn't realize the end was that stubby, it looked more proportional in the concept pics. But that's not enough to make me hate it.
Interior is expected, can't hide the econo-car roots (slim center console, HVAC vents practically next to each other, etc) but I think they did a good job at Acura-zing it, much better than what GM did with its Buick offering.
The wrinkled leather is a little telling of the expected quality of material (not good). Hate the one-seat only map pocket on the back, for some reason that just stood out like a sore thumb to me.
I'm still giving it a 7.5/10, though, I think it was a good effort, much better than the RSX. But pricing is still a concern - if they even dare cross 30K for this thing they're really smoking the good stuff.
02-08-2012, 03:49 PM
#439
I drive a Subata.
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Do you guys really like the exterior design of this? I really wanted to like this car when it was first mentioned. But, maybe it's just me, it looks pretty damn boring. It has the type of Camry or Corolla vanilla feel to it.
The last gen RSX and 1st gen TSX look much better than this one imo.
The last gen RSX and 1st gen TSX look much better than this one imo.
02-08-2012, 03:51 PM
#440
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Do you guys really like the exterior design of this? I really wanted to like this car when it was first mentioned. But, maybe it's just me, it looks pretty damn boring. It has the type of Camry or Corolla vanilla feel to it.
The last gen RSX and 1st gen TSX look much better than this one imo.
The last gen RSX and 1st gen TSX look much better than this one imo.