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Old 07-31-2007, 06:06 PM
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Maybe Acura will offer a base TL thats FWD and a Type S that has SH-AWD...

Old 07-31-2007, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Arcticcl9
I've studied the pics, and I think it's a TSX/Sport4 concept because:

1) front headlights seems to be taped extensively to mask the extra side "angles" to make it look like the current generation TSX or TL. Check out the extra tape near the front wheel well, and compare that to the shot of the Sport4 Concept.
2) we can't see any exhaust/or tips in the rear shots due to the masking in the rear. From the spy shot you can barely see a dark outline of the integrated exhaust in the rear bumper(a la Civic Type R in UK), and the shadow looks triangular like the Sport4 Concept.
3) side sheet metal crease seems to mimic that of the sport4 concept, right under the window sill line.
4) like someone mentioned earlier, the taillight lookd close to the Sport4 concept
I agree. My guess is the TSX since we have the Sports4 concept photos to compare with.

I still haven't seen any next-gen TL photos or concepts around.
Old 07-31-2007, 07:47 PM
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I'm gonna enjoy some for now and let you guys duke it out...
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Originally Posted by Brandon24pdx
FWD FTW!

you know you can fix that pretty easily, right? see av.
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wouldn't it be ironic if that ends up being an RL refresh?
Old 07-31-2007, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
wouldn't it be ironic if that ends up being an RL refresh?
no...that would be quite awesome...
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really?
Old 08-01-2007, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
wouldn't it be ironic if that ends up being an RL refresh?
The last thing the RL needs is a refresh!
They need to scrap it 100% and start over.
Honda needs to raise the standard of their flagship car.

Start with the drivetrain.
Old 08-01-2007, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
The last thing the RL needs is a refresh!
They need to scrap it 100% and start over.
Honda needs to raise the standard of their flagship car.

Start with the drivetrain.


and the problem with acura's "flagship" is that it's not really a flagship as the RL is the equivalent to Lexus' GS and Infiniti's M.
Old 08-01-2007, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by BraveDemon


But on a side note, with that camo gear on, it makes it seem like they've pulled the front axle forward by a 3-4 inches. Perhaps trying to change the weight ratio to work with the new Rumored SH-AWD?
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Problem is doing that on a FWD means the motor has to go with it(meaning they have to push the motor forward with it) due to trans design. Trans output has to come out on the back side of the motor. Especially with awd setup
Old 08-02-2007, 12:21 AM
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Is it only me that sees this - that's a RHD car on the wrong side of the road - I assume this means testing in Japan. That means it's probably a TSX (or an RL) - why would they test a TL in Japan? Or did I miss something?
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Originally Posted by biker
Is it only me that sees this - that's a RHD car on the wrong side of the road - I assume this means testing in Japan. That means it's probably a TSX (or an RL) - why would they test a TL in Japan? Or did I miss something?
Huh?? They're testing in Nevada.
Old 08-02-2007, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
I wasnt talking the nose, i was commenting on the placement of the wheels and the distance between the door and wheel opening. It appears that the motor is placed fairly far forward, thats all
The technical term is long "front overhang".

As in, the opposite of what you want for a sexy look.



By the way, I think it's the TSX since it's supposed to be a year ahead of the TL.
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So, if it is indeed the next gen TSX, i assume that the 2nd gen TSX will be also manufactured in the USA now and no longer in Japan.
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Two new pictures added at TOV

http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=698294
Old 08-02-2007, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Problem is doing that on a FWD means the motor has to go with it(meaning they have to push the motor forward with it) due to trans design. Trans output has to come out on the back side of the motor. Especially with awd setup
I agree, and thats what I was thinking as well. Moving the front axle 2-3 inches forward wouldn't create enough space to mount the engine behind the axle; thus we can safely assume it's not RWD bias.

But what I was implying was more that they might've moved the axle 2-3 inches forward to offset the added weight of the new drive train - if indeed there is SH-AWD on that test mule, the mid to rear section of the new Acura Sedan should be much heavier. In which case, a way to keep the same handling characteristics of a FWD would be to mount the engine further forward.

So really, I was just kinda saying that the pictures seem to indicate the front axle was moved forward, meaning the engine was moved forward to offset added weight to the mid/rear section of the car. But then again... when I keep staring at the pics, it seems like it may just be an optical illusion created by the camo gear.
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
quad muffs??
Old 08-02-2007, 12:03 PM
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Im going to say TL since the third brake light is at the top of the rear window like the current TL and the exhaust tips look similar to the current TL.
Old 08-02-2007, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by alex2364
Huh?? They're testing in Nevada.
I guess I did miss something - some of the other pics makes it more obvious. Then it's more likely it's the TL - Honda would probably test the TSX in Europe or Japan. Like the last time the TSX is bound to debut in Japan first - Tokyo auto show next month? 09 TL debut in Detroit in Jan?
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Originally Posted by mltk53
quad muffs??

Skinny ass tires in the front and back!!

Yup, Acura is a mockery in the luxury arena.
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Originally Posted by mltk53
quad muffs??
Quad tips, dual mufflers.
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they should just Rebadge current RL to TL-S.... 300hp... SHAWD.. perfect...


and get a bigger.. wider.. more powerful V10 (from NSX) and call it a RL...
Old 08-06-2007, 12:27 AM
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I'm guessing tsx..
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Originally Posted by F23A4
Quad tips, dual mufflers.
i knew that.
Old 08-22-2007, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
Looks like it's big, so I'd agree that it's probably the TL... and wtf is tha big whip antenna doing on the back ?? Looks like something from my CB radio days, 10-4 good buddy

But... no coupe, no care...

That is to get the electricity from a lightning bolt to the flex capacitor..
All cars in the future will have this option..
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New Spyshots (Daylight) - VTEC.net

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Missed the 5 min. edit time limit. Last pic:

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You can already make out the ugly MDX style grille.
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It looks to have the chrome trim around the windows like the current TSX does. That's about the only thing I can tell at the moment.
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.....the size and contours remind me of the current generation Maxima.
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Originally Posted by F23A4
.....the size and contours remind me of the current generation Maxima.
wow....i had the exact same thought
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Originally Posted by F23A4
.....the size and contours remind me of the current generation Maxima.
The first thought that comes to mind for me is the current gen Lex GS.
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Anyway to tell if it's using SH-AWD
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
Anyway to tell if it's using SH-AWD

From the link I posted earlier today. Take it for what it's worth...

Originally Posted by VTEC.net
We still don’t know too much about the 2009 TL, but our photographer was very impressed with the way he saw it handle. In his own words, he exclaimed “…its just crazy fast and looks to have a lot of grip....the guy took a corner posted at 20mph at around 45-50 with no trouble!”
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“…its just crazy fast and looks to have a lot of grip....the guy took a corner posted at 20mph at around 45-50 with no trouble!”

As my AV6 can cover that with little fanfare (thank you NJ Turnpike on/off ramps), I would hope a 4G TL could.
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
You can already make out the ugly MDX style grille.
Oh no!!!
Please stop the ugly!!!!
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Those look like the current TSX mirrors and say bye bye to the touch screen navi too...
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
You can already make out the ugly MDX style grille.

OH FUC
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I am a bit worried,........


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