alex2364

That's their plan. The next gen TL won't come out til fall of '08 as a '09 model.

fsttyms1

mltk53

ooooooo..very very interesting shots..kinda looked like a sedan from the back. but what the heck is up with the huge antenna?

CGTSX2004

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Hmm...looks like LED tails, possibly turn signal mirrors, an MDX style shield grille, and lightweight 5-spoke alloy wheels.

I am somewhat disappointed that the calipers and brakes still look so tiny...

Dan Martin

My money is on TL.

Those wheels look really light though, so it might be a TSX.

jlukja

The grill looks like the new TSX but the wheels & fenders don't.

mltk53

the whole front:fender, grill, hood, just looks like a tl to me. the rear...hmm a g35 wannabe? lol

mltk53

oh i got it. the bottom grill. definately the Tl

AsianRage

Yeah....

GreenMonster

Looks like it's big, so I'd agree that it's probably the TL... and wtf is tha big whip antenna doing on the back ?? Looks like something from my CB radio days, 10-4 good buddy

But... no coupe, no care...

fsttyms1

that front end looks big for a fwd/v6 setup

Dan Martin

I think just about all cars these days are going to have longer front ends because of the new pedestrian impact laws overseas.

fsttyms1

nah, thats all built into the bumper area and the way it would impact a human, im talking about the size of the actual front end (engine compartment) the space between the fender arch and the door line, and the distance of the dash/front wheel area. It just seems that the engine would be placed fairly far forward

Fibonacci

You silly, everyone knows that the next TL will be F/R V8, duh!

Ken1997TL

The big nose is because of the ACE body structure and new pedestrian/vehicle collision standards

PPLAPW

I say its a TL, just because the shape looks similar to the new Accords...

fsttyms1

I wasnt talking the nose, i was commenting on the placement of the wheels and the distance between the door and wheel opening. It appears that the motor is placed fairly far forward, thats all

mg7726

that's def a TL, look it's bloated like a pig...and the side mirrors give it away.

making contact wit the mothership

edit: i hope they're testing a SH-AWD or SH-RWD setup...PLEASE!

ostrich

I think it's more likely to be the new TSX. OK, in the spy shot it looks big, but it may just be optical illusion. The side profile, esp. the rear passenger window and the C-pillar is more similar to the current TSX.

BTW, I like how Acura has the license plates above the rear bumpers now. They have a nice design going on there, esp. with the current TSX, whose backside is very much Italian and absolutely stylish. If they start putting them in the bumpers at the back, they will start to look like Infiniti...

CGTSX2004

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Though actually, if you look at the picture closely, the distance from the end of the front wheel well to the start of the front door appears to have been elongated a fair amount. Now add in the fact that the cabin appears to be pushed farther back on the chassis and that the area in front of the wheel well does not appeared to have grown seems to indicate the possibility that the motor may have been set farther back to try to improve the weight balance of the car.

But then again, it's all speculation at this point so it's anybody's guess.

revitupwriteitoff

one of the reasons I went Lexus IS

BraveDemon

Yeah, it looks like a next gen TL. Its just too big and the wheelbase seems too long to be a TSX.

Besides, I thought it was decided that the TSX was going to look like the Sports 4 Concept? (I could be wrong. I haven't really followed any news on the next TSX).

But on a side note, with that camo gear on, it makes it seem like they've pulled the front axle forward by a 3-4 inches. Perhaps trying to change the weight ratio to work with the new Rumored SH-AWD?

Who knows. It'll be months before we find out anything.

mltk53

naww, the new tsx is actually going to be a transformer

stangg172004

headlights say acura, rear camo says infiniti profile, i feel, says lexus.

Arcticcl9

I've studied the pics, and I think it's a TSX/Sport4 concept because:

1) front headlights seems to be taped extensively to mask the extra side "angles" to make it look like the current generation TSX or TL. Check out the extra tape near the front wheel well, and compare that to the shot of the Sport4 Concept.
2) we can't see any exhaust/or tips in the rear shots due to the masking in the rear. From the spy shot you can barely see a dark outline of the integrated exhaust in the rear bumper(a la Civic Type R in UK), and the shadow looks triangular like the Sport4 Concept.
3) side sheet metal crease seems to mimic that of the sport4 concept, right under the window sill line.
4) like someone mentioned earlier, the taillight lookd close to the Sport4 concept

mltk53

^^
nice speculations. but even the sport 4 concept, no one knows its going to be the tsx 100% the front lower grill tells me that its a tl for shure.

Mokos23

geez guys I think it's the TL. it's too big to be a TSX. it would be sad if this next TL is bigger and more powerful than the current RL, which i bet 90% it will be.

dom

Looks TL sized to me.

But I'm more interested in the drive train.

revitupwriteitoff

after some time to think, dom's got my thoughts wrapped up ^^

Mokos23

I will assume it will be SH-AWD with a FWD bias with probably 315hp and a type-S version of 340hp.

F23A4

That sounds reasonable though, a Type S model probably would not make an appearance until the 2010 MY. (By then the Infiniti G Sport will likely be around 350hp and who knows how Toyota might enhance the output on the IS350's 2GR-FSE.)

BraveDemon

You read my mind 04EuroAccordTsx. But what I'm wondering is how much more expensive the next Gen TL will be. With the addition of an even more powerful engine (hopefully dual overhead cams this time around - DOHC) and an SH-AWD drive train, I have a feeling the TL base price will sky rocket.

The price of the TL in the past 6 years has slowly increased: I currently have a 2nd Gen TL-S and it was no where near as expensive as the 3rd Gen TL-S.

Perhaps Acura will offer a base FWD model around $30k to keep the TL an affordable mid-size luxury sedan (with the SH-AWD drive train as an option) just to insure a steady base of sales - much like Audi with their A4 and A6.

I assume, that when the TL-S is introduced in the later years of production, it will only be offered as SH-AWD with HP output close to 350.... in which case, the 4th Gen TL-S will easily hit $40k+.

Mokos23

I think prices will start maybe $34-35k for the regular TL and then $36-38K with navi. then the TL-S version will be from $40-43K.

Nah, I think the next TSX will also move up in price to start probably $30-31K for the base with hopefully a turbo, $32-33K with the navi and turbo.

So, there will be no more Acuras will be in the $20K range, which will be good so that it won't be looked upon as a "cheap" luxury brand because Infiniti or Lexus haven't offered any cars for under $30K in awhile.

But, not sure if also the sales will be better or worse since Acura wants to move upscale and that's why people including myself wanted a car you get most of your money, but want a luxury feel too.

Those people might look at Infiniti or Lexus instead because all 3 Japanese luxury brands will be at the same price range then too.

I think Honda wants to remove their "value luxury" or "cheap luxury" term from the Acura brand.

Acuraluvr

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i dont like the color

supraken

iTrader: (1)

I think it's the TL... A few things,

1. Look at where the rear door ends, the rear door quarter glass has a sharp drop off. Similar to the current TL. TSX/Sports 4 both have a more rounded drop off.

2. Calipers - can't tell for sure, but looks like two-piston calipers. I think Acura will cheap out on the TSX and use singles again.

The rest is mostly comparison to the Sports 4:

3. Moonroof - Sports 4 has a panaromic moonroof, then again, most likely something Acura will leave out in the production car.

4. Hood - Looks like the hood ends somewhere further from the headlights, I think the Sports 4's hood (and TSX's hood) actually meets the headlights/Grill

5. Bottom front bumper flares, definitely more reminensence of the TL, same thing with the fender flares.

Also, the car looks similar in size to the TL, and profile is similar to the upcoming Accord and current TL.

I think maybe Acura is trying to give it a G35 treatment

JediMindTricks

very interesting...

i'm not even going to guess what it is (new TL!).

but i can't wait to see what the next sedans will look like.

and +45 on hoping that acura's testing out sh-awd's or rwd

Moog-Type-S

If that front grille ends up looking like the MDX....

Too bad it looks FWD.

Yumcha

on drivetrain...

Brandon24pdx

FWD FTW!

aackshun

ftmfw!