Official TLX Sales Thread
#161
Apparently they still got a niche market. No manufacurure would be producing if no one buys their products. But I am not trying to defend Honda if they are not responding to consumer complaints promptly, I just think that from where they stand, TLX is not as big a disaster as it's perceived here. Otherwise they would've discontinued or re-designed it back in 2016 or 2017. Yet here we are. 2018, and the sales number shows they still sell.
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Apparently they still got a niche market. No manufacurure would be producing if no one buys their products. But I am not trying to defend Honda if they are not responding to consumer complaints promptly, I just think that from where they stand, TLX is not as big a disaster as it's perceived here. Otherwise they would've discontinued or re-designed it back in 2016 or 2017. Yet here we are. 2018, and the sales number shows they still sell.
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Apparently they still got a niche market. No manufacurure would be producing if no one buys their products. But I am not trying to defend Honda if they are not responding to consumer complaints promptly, I just think that from where they stand, RLX is not as big a disaster as it's perceived here. Otherwise they would've discontinued or re-designed it back in 2016 or 2017. Yet here we are. 2018, and the sales number shows they still sell.
I don't think anyone is saying the TLX is a disaster (at least I'm not), but the thing is the TLX hasn't met Acura's sales goals or expectations. The same goes for the ILX.
Acura's slow to change. They do what they want to do. The TLX isn't their bread and butter volume seller anymore. That's why they didn't redesign the TLX earlier. If the TLX was important to them, they would've put out a better more competitive product or refreshed it sooner like when Honda rushed out with a redesigned Civic in late 2012 because Consumer Reports didn't give it a "Recommended" rating.
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^^^ There's some guy driving a new RLX looking at that MTD chart right now and saying "hey, that's me!"
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I still love my TLX and I know it's not perfect.. I really do wish Acura/Honda would step up their game to meet the "performance" image they want to portray. But articles like this will definitely help sales...
Why the Acura TLX is one of the best cars of 2017 - Business Insider
Why the Acura TLX is one of the best cars of 2017 - Business Insider
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If you look - it's pretty much just a few people making the same negative comments over and over. In a low traffic forum like this they tend to stand out more.
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Acura's sales are 16.5K YTD, with Nov and Dec the sales will reach 20K.
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Low traffic forum? AZ is one of the busiest car forums on the net, with a bunch of new members joining daily
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Historically, Acura's sales in Canada is very consistent for the past couple of years. Acura sells about 20,000 units. I would say very close to Lexus (around 22-22K/year). And almost 40% more than Infiniti (YTD sales: 10.5K.)
Acura's sales are 16.5K YTD, with Nov and Dec the sales will reach 20K.
Acura's sales are 16.5K YTD, with Nov and Dec the sales will reach 20K.
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Infiniti YTD sales: 10,620 on average they sell 1,000 units/month.
Lexus: 21,299 (Which is an amazing year for them. In 2014, 15 & 16 Lexus sold 17K, 22K, 22.5K respectively in Canada, which is very close to Acura sales numbers.
INFINITI Reports Canadian Sales for October 2017 - INFINITI Online Newsroom
Lexus Brand Sales Figures -
I hope you are happy now
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Why are you solely looking at Canada, and not the entire world when it comes to YTD sales? Canada is such a small segment of the pie. So what you're doing is cherry picking the information that best suits your argument, as opposed to looking at the whole picture.
That's like saying "well, there's world peace in Switzerland. That means the rest of the world is the exactly the same!"
That's like saying "well, there's world peace in Switzerland. That means the rest of the world is the exactly the same!"
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Why are you solely looking at Canada, and not the entire world when it comes to YTD sales? Canada is such a small segment of the pie. So what you're doing is cherry picking the information that best suits your argument, as opposed to looking at the whole picture.
That's like saying "well, there's world peace in Switzerland. That means the rest of the world is the exactly the same!"
That's like saying "well, there's world peace in Switzerland. That means the rest of the world is the exactly the same!"
1. Post#167 by Speedy_Racer (Canada sales number)
2. Post#170 by txl2017 (surprised to see Acura TLX sales increasing)
3. Post#173 by Saintor (mentions 46.8% increase in Canadian sales)
4. Post#174: I wrote that historically in Canada Acura sales are higher than Infiniti and Lexus is very close.
I was replying to those 2 posts. If this answer doesn't make you happy....then have a fantastic day. I don't have time to argue. Merci - bonne journee!
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Why are you solely looking at Canada, and not the entire world when it comes to YTD sales? Canada is such a small segment of the pie. So what you're doing is cherry picking the information that best suits your argument, as opposed to looking at the whole picture.
That's like saying "well, there's world peace in Switzerland. That means the rest of the world is the exactly the same!"
That's like saying "well, there's world peace in Switzerland. That means the rest of the world is the exactly the same!"
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Why's there so much hate on this forum? The OP said "Historically in Canada." He's from Canada according to his info, so he's just giving an example of how sales are in his country. It's like how us Americans focus on US sales. It's hard to look worldwide because different countries have different needs and wants in a car... Isn't there a TLX-L that's going to debut in China?
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Percentage stats without the raw numbers are the things of marketing departments wet dreams.
Company sells 1 car in October '16 then sells 2 in October '17 for a 100% increase in sales.
Which is why % have little meaning with a framework to support them. In fact a car company going from I car to 2 cars could claim to have the fastest growth rate in all of Canada.
If you want to play the happy news backwards the NSX in Canada must be ready to abandonment with an astounding 87% loss in sales October to October. Or September 17 to October 17 TLX sales are down 9% in Canada.
Company sells 1 car in October '16 then sells 2 in October '17 for a 100% increase in sales.
Which is why % have little meaning with a framework to support them. In fact a car company going from I car to 2 cars could claim to have the fastest growth rate in all of Canada.
If you want to play the happy news backwards the NSX in Canada must be ready to abandonment with an astounding 87% loss in sales October to October. Or September 17 to October 17 TLX sales are down 9% in Canada.
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Percentage stats without the raw numbers are the things of marketing departments wet dreams.
Company sells 1 car in October '16 then sells 2 in October '17 for a 100% increase in sales.
Which is why % have little meaning with a framework to support them. In fact a car company going from I car to 2 cars could claim to have the fastest growth rate in all of Canada.
If you want to play the happy news backwards the NSX in Canada must be ready to abandonment with an astounding 87% loss in sales October to October. Or September 17 to October 17 TLX sales are down 9% in Canada.
Company sells 1 car in October '16 then sells 2 in October '17 for a 100% increase in sales.
Which is why % have little meaning with a framework to support them. In fact a car company going from I car to 2 cars could claim to have the fastest growth rate in all of Canada.
If you want to play the happy news backwards the NSX in Canada must be ready to abandonment with an astounding 87% loss in sales October to October. Or September 17 to October 17 TLX sales are down 9% in Canada.
But in this case, it make sense. TLX is in the market for the past 3 years. MoM and/or YoY comparison with %s makes sense to me. Overall, YTD, TLX has only 1% increase which is nothing significant. We have to read and understand sales number and %s before making a statement. So your point is very valid.
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I'd imagine the aim of Acura Canada at this moment is to beat the 2016 overall sales. Two of my local dealers have been more aggressive in advertising. One salesperson even left me 2 voice mails last week. If you want to buy a new Acura now, it's a good time to do so now.
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I'd imagine the aim of Acura Canada at this moment is to beat the 2016 overall sales. Two of my local dealers have been more aggressive in advertising. One salesperson even left me 2 voice mails last week. If you want to buy a new Acura now, it's a good time to do so now.
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I have no idea. I didn't call back the salesperson to ask as even if I were in the market for a new car, it would be a CUV, wagon, or minivan. Wife does not want a sedan...
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- https://acurazine.com/forums/car-tal...-shake-964132/
- https://acurazine.com/forums/car-tal...tranny-956063/
- https://acurazine.com/forums/car-tal...ix-gtp-950330/
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#191
If the negative reviews on this forum have some correlation with the sales, I can't imagine what the ILX forum would be like!
Edit: Just checked the US chart, it seems sales for almost all Acura models are down across the board. TLX is actually not doing all that bad comparing with other Acura models. Certainly nothing to brag about, but just put things in perspective - again in light of the negative comments we see here...
Edit: Just checked the US chart, it seems sales for almost all Acura models are down across the board. TLX is actually not doing all that bad comparing with other Acura models. Certainly nothing to brag about, but just put things in perspective - again in light of the negative comments we see here...
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Negative reviews will always stand out and stick longer than postive reviews. The same 10 or so posters that don't like the TLX are still coming around to keep posting...while the new and most likely happy TLX owners made their purchase and don't feel the need to come and post again.
Its understandable, if you are happy and love the car maybe you will post about it once and then keep living your happy life. While the negative reviewers feel
the need to come and repeat the same points over and over again. I can see it from both sides.
Regarding the sales, I think they will continue to increase due to end of year incentives, availability of CPO cars, and lastly because the car does look much better in person.
I have always said that in pictures the car simply doesn't look all that attractive. I wasn't impressed at all, but after seeing it in person, on the streets and seeing it driving on the opposite way towards me, the car does indeed have a wow effect. It certainly has presence and a nice aggressive yet subtle look.
Its a headturner and that definitely sparks interest in buyers. Im not saying people see it in the street and go buy one right away, but it does make people do the research and Acura still has (like it or not) good reliability and a great value for the price.
I think this is why the sales are slowly increasing but only after a very cold debut.
Its understandable, if you are happy and love the car maybe you will post about it once and then keep living your happy life. While the negative reviewers feel
the need to come and repeat the same points over and over again. I can see it from both sides.
Regarding the sales, I think they will continue to increase due to end of year incentives, availability of CPO cars, and lastly because the car does look much better in person.
I have always said that in pictures the car simply doesn't look all that attractive. I wasn't impressed at all, but after seeing it in person, on the streets and seeing it driving on the opposite way towards me, the car does indeed have a wow effect. It certainly has presence and a nice aggressive yet subtle look.
Its a headturner and that definitely sparks interest in buyers. Im not saying people see it in the street and go buy one right away, but it does make people do the research and Acura still has (like it or not) good reliability and a great value for the price.
I think this is why the sales are slowly increasing but only after a very cold debut.
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Interestingly enough - if you look at reviews on the TLX subforum from people who have actually purchased the car you won't find many negative reviews other than for the 2015 V6 model.
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Of course - however I've seen honest reviews from people who post what they like and don't like over time - Neuronbob's last one is a good example of the good/bad about the car.
The point being - many people are simply bashing Acura for no longer being a brand who caters to the enthusiast as they once did vs people who actually bought and own the current car and offer their honest opinions of what it's like.
The point being - many people are simply bashing Acura for no longer being a brand who caters to the enthusiast as they once did vs people who actually bought and own the current car and offer their honest opinions of what it's like.
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Not too sure about that, still many complaints about vibrations. Let's not forget many members left because of the TLX problems. Unlike GM, we we're not expecting that many problems from a year one Acura. Now we know to wait just like all other companies.