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Old 03-30-2021, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by leomio85
I'm sure plenty of places are already starting to stick to sticker or above in anticipation of a possible supply shortage, as the news of production issues is basically mainstream at this point.
Maybe, but it's not happening yet. I told our sales rep (the same one who sold us our RDX 2 years ago) that I wasn't going to play "let's make a deal" for this car (S-AWD Tech). I said, "Give me your best price, and if we like it we may decide not to shop around." The sticker was $44,900. The first number he gave me was $39,000- under 42K out the door.
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Originally Posted by robnalex
Maybe, but it's not happening yet. I told our sales rep (the same one who sold us our RDX 2 years ago) that I wasn't going to play "let's make a deal" for this car (S-AWD Tech). I said, "Give me your best price, and if we like it we may decide not to shop around." The sticker was $44,900. The first number he gave me was $39,000- under 42K out the door.
You lucky dog. I guess it's just a difference in attitude from regions. When I was shopping around via emails, once it became apparent (and I did it in the nicest way possible) that I wasn't interested in paying sticker, I was completely ignored. I had better luck going in person, and one dealer actually had the audacity to be visibly annoyed that I was asking for under sticker for a 2019 RDX that was sitting around while they were getting shipments of 2020's in (with bird shit peppering the hood, baking in the sun sitting outside). Just to show how arrogant these sales assholes are on Long Island.

It's good to see that deals are still out there though. Hopefully this supply shortage isn't as bad as they're making it out to be.
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Originally Posted by 4G-Lover
I like the current TLX a lot but....who in his right mind is going to pay second sticker on a Type S?? Unless the car is going to be a spectacular outlier in term of capabilities, I suspect it will perform exactly as its 350 HP engine will allow it to perform....just like any other good or even excellent sub 400 horses sport sedans out there and there are a LOT of choices. The real outlier is the M340i which is seriously fast for its advertised power.
As good as the new TLX is and how commendable the effort from Acura is to differentiate it from the Accord (different front suspension, serious power difference between the top trims of both cars, longer wheelbase, etc...) especially after the disastrous first generation TLX, sorry but it ain't second sticker material in my book....the "Type S" badge is not the "M" badge....
Type-S, Type-R, ///M, AMG, RS, V Blackwing, TRD, Shelby, Hellcat ... I don't give a goddamn what f-ing badge/nomenclature you put on a car, I refuse to pay anything above sticker. Am I a cheap SOB? Yea, probably. But I still won't even remotely consider for a fraction of a nano-second a car if it's listed even a penny over sticker. If I do pay sticker, you better throw in some goddamn floor mats or something, lol.
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The special red paint TLX did not seem to do the trick at $50,000.
Yeah, Valencia Red Pearl was awesome. Was it only available in 2020 PMC TLX (and current-gen NSX) ?
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Old 03-31-2021, 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by leomio85
Type-S, Type-R, ///M, AMG, RS, V Blackwing, TRD, Shelby, Hellcat ... I don't give a goddamn what f-ing badge/nomenclature you put on a car, I refuse to pay anything above sticker. Am I a cheap SOB? Yea, probably. But I still won't even remotely consider for a fraction of a nano-second a car if it's listed even a penny over sticker. If I do pay sticker, you better throw in some goddamn floor mats or something, lol.
Totally agree.....I would not pay above MSRP even for a Ferrari, never mind mass produced vehicles. I always bought my cars significantly under invoice.
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Old 04-01-2021, 08:08 AM
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The recent predictions of rising sticker prices are not happening. Sticker prices on the current non-type-s TLX trims are dropping. Here are today's lowest nationwide stickers from CarGurus:

FWD Base : $37,500
SH-AWD Technology: $38,254
SH-AWD Base: $40,000
FWD A-Spec: $40,275
SH-AWD A-Spec: $42,275
FWD Advance: $42,525
FWD Technology: $43,025
SH-AWD Advance: $43,275
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Originally Posted by robnalex
The recent predictions of rising sticker prices are not happening. Sticker prices on the current non-type-s TLX trims are dropping. Here are today's lowest nationwide stickers from CarGurus:

FWD Base : $37,500
SH-AWD Technology: $38,254
SH-AWD Base: $40,000
FWD A-Spec: $40,275
SH-AWD A-Spec: $42,275
FWD Advance: $42,525
FWD Technology: $43,025
SH-AWD Advance: $43,275
I think you might be misinterpreting the term "sticker price". Sticker price is the price on the window sticker (aka the MSRP price). The only way it drops is if Acura themselves changes it; the dealership "asking price" or "transactional price" is not the same thing.
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Originally Posted by robnalex
The recent predictions of rising sticker prices are not happening. Sticker prices on the current non-type-s TLX trims are dropping. Here are today's lowest nationwide stickers from CarGurus:

FWD Base : $37,500
SH-AWD Technology: $38,254
SH-AWD Base: $40,000
FWD A-Spec: $40,275
SH-AWD A-Spec: $42,275
FWD Advance: $42,525
FWD Technology: $43,025
SH-AWD Advance: $43,275
Originally Posted by fiatlux
I think you might be misinterpreting the term "sticker price". Sticker price is the price on the window sticker (aka the MSRP price). The only way it drops is if Acura themselves changes it; the dealership "asking price" or "transactional price" is not the same thing.

Exactly. CarGurus is just like TrueCar. They're showing you the prices that people are paying on average. Sticker price ain't going nowhere. It'll actually go up a few hundred dollars next year as it normally does.
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Old 04-01-2021, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by leomio85
Type-S, Type-R, ///M, AMG, RS, V Blackwing, TRD, Shelby, Hellcat ... I don't give a goddamn what f-ing badge/nomenclature you put on a car, I refuse to pay anything above sticker. Am I a cheap SOB? Yea, probably. But I still won't even remotely consider for a fraction of a nano-second a car if it's listed even a penny over sticker. If I do pay sticker, you better throw in some goddamn floor mats or something, lol.
You mean you won't give the dealer more money for a car that will be below invoice in a few months after release? WHY!!?!?!?
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Originally Posted by robnalex
The recent predictions of rising sticker prices are not happening. Sticker prices on the current non-type-s TLX trims are dropping. Here are today's lowest nationwide stickers from CarGurus:

FWD Base : $37,500
SH-AWD Technology: $38,254
SH-AWD Base: $40,000
FWD A-Spec: $40,275
SH-AWD A-Spec: $42,275
FWD Advance: $42,525
FWD Technology: $43,025
SH-AWD Advance: $43,275
Well, excuuuuuuse me for using the wrong nomenclature, but thee are the prices dealers are asking, and they are going ⬇️⬇️⬇️.
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Well, excuuuuuuse me for using the wrong nomenclature, but thee are the prices dealers are asking, and they are going ⬇️⬇️⬇️.
Prices for local inventory will always be better versus MSRP. The Type-S is the one to watch since it's being produced now so prices are more in flux.
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HUD On Type S?

Anyone know if the Type S will have Heads Up Display?
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Originally Posted by KlownDie
Anyone know if the Type S will have Heads Up Display?
Spec sheet says no.
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Do you have a link to spec sheet you're referring to?

The one I found here is the release notes, and it doesn't mention the HUD.

https://acuranews.com/en-US/releases...7ug-5Z8WhLaa1o
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Originally Posted by KlownDie
Do you have a link to spec sheet you're referring to?

The one I found here is the release notes, and it doesn't mention the HUD.

https://acuranews.com/en-US/releases...7ug-5Z8WhLaa1o
im hoping they add it in the final release.
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Originally Posted by KlownDie
Do you have a link to spec sheet you're referring to?

The one I found here is the release notes, and it doesn't mention the HUD.

https://acuranews.com/en-US/releases...7ug-5Z8WhLaa1o

https://beta.acuranews.com/en-US/rel...late-september
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Ahh ok. Hopefully that's just a outdated non-released specs =/
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That link has been superseded by KlownDie's link below. A number of features were added that didn't make the original list (rain sensing wipers, power folding mirrors, etc).

Originally Posted by KlownDie
Do you have a link to spec sheet you're referring to?

The one I found here is the release notes, and it doesn't mention the HUD.

https://acuranews.com/en-US/releases...7ug-5Z8WhLaa1o
Due to the omission of the HUD in the latest table, we believe it is not included.
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My guess is they will limit Type-S availability and that will prop up demand, but once the Acura “enthusiast” crowd is done sales will go rather flat as some people will not accept the lower trim optioned Type-S for the high price expected.
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My guess is they will limit Type-S availability and that will prop up demand, but once the Acura “enthusiast” crowd is done sales will go rather flat as some people will not accept the lower trim optioned Type-S for the high price expected.
Yes, it will be interesting to see where things stand a year from now. I'm loving my 2021 TLX Tech, but miss the awesome torque and raw power of my 2001 CL-S. The 2.0-liter four-cylinder turbo can move, but you have to manipulate the transmission to make it happen. If you're in "normal" drive mode and want to make a really quick move, you have to switch to sport or sport+ to get it done. Just flooring it won't make it happen. My good old CL-S is not very sophisticated anymore, but when you need raw power instantly, it's there. If the type-s has some better color and other options in the future and the price is right, I may be tempted to move up.
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Originally Posted by robnalex
Yes, it will be interesting to see where things stand a year from now. I'm loving my 2021 TLX Tech, but miss the awesome torque and raw power of my 2001 CL-S. The 2.0-liter four-cylinder turbo can move, but you have to manipulate the transmission to make it happen. If you're in "normal" drive mode and want to make a really quick move, you have to switch to sport or sport+ to get it done. Just flooring it won't make it happen. My good old CL-S is not very sophisticated anymore, but when you need raw power instantly, it's there. If the type-s has some better color and other options in the future and the price is right, I may be tempted to move up.
A big drawback on the 2001 CL-S was the nightmarish 5-speed automatic transmission, which would self destruct after accumulated enough mileage due to faulty design. If the tranny failed on the highways, the tranny would shift from 5th to 2nd without warning, and the tires would lock up and the car spin out of control. Replacement trannies would fail the same way even though less frequently than the original unit. Worse still was that not even Honda knew which tranny units would fail and which wouldn't.

The CL-S/TL-S were good cars, but with a shitty tranny. In fact, the TL-S had the highest output hp within the mid-side sport sedan class.

I know, because I owned a 2002 TL-S, and got rid of it in no time when the replaced tranny was starting to show telltale signs of yet another imminent failure.

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Originally Posted by Edward'TLS
A big drawback on the 2001 CL-S was the nightmarish 5-speed automatic transmission, which would self destruct after accumulated enough mileage due to faulty design. If the tranny failed on the highways, the tranny would shift from 5th to 2nd without warning, and the tires would lock up and the car spin out of control. Replacement trannies would fail the same way even though less frequently than the original unit. Worse still was that not even Honda knew which tranny units would fail and which wouldn't.

The CL-S/TL-S were good cars, but with a shitty tranny. In fact, the TL-S had the highest output hp within the mid-side sport sedan class.

I know, because I owned a 2002 TL-S, and got rid of it in no time when the replaced tranny was starting to show telltale signs of yet another imminent failure.
I owned a 2000 TL. When all was said and done the transmission had been replaced 4 times at no cost. Loved that car though. Traded it in with 118,000 miles on the speedo. The guy who bought it from the dealer liked the car so much that, after I gave the dealer permission to have him call me about some required service, he thanked me for maintaining what he said was the best used car he had ever purchased. Other than the transmission that was a great vehicle.
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Originally Posted by Edward'TLS
A big drawback on the 2001 CL-S was the nightmarish 5-speed automatic transmission, which would self destruct after accumulated enough mileage due to faulty design. If the tranny failed on the highways, the tranny would shift from 5th to 2nd without warning, and the tires would lock up and the car spin out of control. Replacement trannies would fail the same way even though less frequently than the original unit. Worse still was that not even Honda knew which tranny units would fail and which wouldn't.

The CL-S/TL-S were good cars, but with a shitty tranny. In fact, the TL-S had the highest output hp within the mid-side sport sedan class.

I know, because I owned a 2002 TL-S, and got rid of it in no time when the replaced tranny was starting to show telltale signs of yet another imminent failure.
Yup, I remember your user name from back from the pre-Acurazine days, when this forum was acura tl . com. In November, I'll have been on this forum for 20 years! I came here around the time I bought my 2002 TL-P, and before I could develop any tranny trouble, I traded out for an early 2004 TL. Those were the days...
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Originally Posted by Honda430
I owned a 2000 TL. When all was said and done the transmission had been replaced 4 times at no cost. Loved that car though. Traded it in with 118,000 miles on the speedo. The guy who bought it from the dealer liked the car so much that, after I gave the dealer permission to have him call me about some required service, he thanked me for maintaining what he said was the best used car he had ever purchased. Other than the transmission that was a great vehicle.
Props to the old-timers. I was too "financially challenged" to afford Acuras back then, but at least I was buyin Hondas.
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What’s the consensus and guesses on when the online builder will be available so we can play around building our type s? If I remember correctly the online builder for the standard edition came available exactly on launch day back in September. Hopefully they launch the type s builder by the end of the month so we can play around and see the different options and accessories.
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Yup, I remember your user name from back from the pre-Acurazine days, when this forum was acura tl . com. In November, I'll have been on this forum for 20 years! I came here around the time I bought my 2002 TL-P, and before I could develop any tranny trouble, I traded out for an early 2004 TL. Those were the days...


Yup, time flies. It's about time to replace my oil-burning 4G TL. Only this time I'm in no hurry, and I can patiently wait for the TL-S to reach land.



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A big drawback on the 2001 CL-S was the nightmarish 5-speed automatic transmission, which would self destruct after accumulated enough mileage due to faulty design.
Yep. Mine failed after the car was out of warranty, but Honda replaced it for free anyway. I never had any problems with the replacement tranny. In fact, although she's showing her age cosmetically, she still runs like when she was new.
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Yep. Mine failed after the car was out of warranty, but Honda replaced it for free anyway. I never had any problems with the replacement tranny. In fact, although she's showing her age cosmetically, she still runs like when she was new.
You were real lucky to have Honda covered the cost for you. I had heard far too many sad stories (on the 2G TL subforum) that new owners bought an used 2G TL and they had no money to fix the failed tranny after just owning the car for a couple months. That was exactly the reason why the car was dumped onto the used car market in the first place.

As for myself, with the multiple factory extended warranties on the tranny all expired, it would have cost me Cdn $5k+ to replace a crapped-out tranny. The value of my TL-S then was only around $8-9k. That was why I had to dump the car ASAP, because no way in hell was I gonna fork out $5k+ to fix my crippled car which worth only a couple thousands $ more.



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Anyone know if the Type S will have Heads Up Display?
no, no surround cameras either, too many things pulled to keep a price point that is already a bit high.
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no, no surround cameras either, too many things pulled to keep a price point that is already a bit high.
i would say unconfirmed
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Originally Posted by KeithL
no, no surround cameras either, too many things pulled to keep a price point that is already a bit high.
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i would say unconfirmed

Yep. Shots of one that was on a truck(maybe for display purposes) showed a front camera.

We won't anything for sure until one comes out and it's actually seen. Honda/Acura is so tight lipped about everything when it comes to their cars coming out, it's hard to say what is actually true.
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Yep. Shots of one that was on a truck(maybe for display purposes) showed a front camera.

We won't anything for sure until one comes out and it's actually seen. Honda/Acura is so tight lipped about everything when it comes to their cars coming out, it's hard to say what is actually true.
The original spec list had the Type-S without surround cameras and no HUD and a few other things. Did they add them back in?
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The original spec list had the Type-S without surround cameras and no HUD and a few other things. Did they add them back in?
they only confirmed to have added a couple things. Power folding mirrors, rain sensing wipers were the standouts. Still no hud or camera confirmed.
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Miss 2008 when the TL Type S was EVERYTHING. Oh well, simpler times I guess.

Also, super annoyed the gray color option doesn't allow Red interior Whyyyyy
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Originally Posted by RedsTL
Miss 2008 when the TL Type S was EVERYTHING. Oh well, simpler times I guess.

Also, super annoyed the gray color option doesn't allow Red interior Whyyyyy
me too. Still hoping it’s a mistake like when they changed the red on red option to red and black
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Miss 2008 when the TL Type S was EVERYTHING. Oh well, simpler times I guess.
I'm still driving my 2008 TL-S and while I don't know if it is "EVERYTHING," it certainly is a fun car to drive and making decisions about a new car purchase more difficult.
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Originally Posted by robnalex
Yep. Mine failed after the car was out of warranty, but Honda replaced it for free anyway. I never had any problems with the replacement tranny. In fact, although she's showing her age cosmetically, she still runs like when she was new.
I had a similar experience with my late 2003 TL. After tranny replacement at ~74k ish, car ran amazingly all the way to 199k before getting totaled. I miss the way that car shifted in sport shift.
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Originally Posted by NBP04TL4ME
I'm still driving my 2008 TL-S and while I don't know if it is "EVERYTHING," it certainly is a fun car to drive and making decisions about a new car purchase more difficult.
Still driving mine as well, and I believe that the 07-08 TL Type S had all the base optional car features included by default. Maybe not the goofy small stuff like floor mats and trunk organizer, but everything else! I know there are many more advanced features complicating accomplishing this in 2021, but it's still a bit disappointing considering the price point.
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Originally Posted by RedsTL
Miss 2008 when the TL Type S was EVERYTHING. Oh well, simpler times I guess.

Also, super annoyed the gray color option doesn't allow Red interior Whyyyyy

The Type S was not "everything" even back then...it was simply a nice looking, very good front driver sporty sedan and good value but its performance were already matched years before by an even cheaper non premium brand 5.5 gen Nissan maxima. Also for less money, the Mazdaspeed6 was a worthy challenger.
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Originally Posted by 4G-Lover
The Type S was not "everything" even back then...it was simply a nice looking, very good front driver sporty sedan and good value but its performance were already matched years before by an even cheaper non premium brand 5.5 gen Nissan maxima. Also for less money, the Mazdaspeed6 was a worthy challenger.
Sorry, I meant that it contained all of the "options" of the base TL model.


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