TLX Type S release thread; prices, trims and availability
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Fail and for those of you who don’t care about the power numbers why are you even looking at a type s? Just get the base 4 cylinder. An outdated Red Sport is faster. This car is only slightly faster than a 330i. That’s disappointing
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4.7 sec with a shoulder launch and a passenger in it as well. If that's disappointing, why isn't the S5, G70 and C43 disappointing. 0 - 60 is not everything. If you live by magazine numbers it's obvious you have never driven a variety of cars and have no clue....
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For a company bragging it's ass off for 2 years about performance crafted performance and a new engine for this. Very average at best. The key here is brand new engine, for a company that does minimal changes. For those expecting yearly improvements, just look at the NSX. Just cosmetics.
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The obsession with a few tenths of a second is pretty funny. At that precision, it comes down to driver, weather, tire pressure, countless other things that makes you the winner vs another putz in a bmw that you’ll race sooooo many times. /s. Tenths of a second is NOT a reason to buy or not to buy a car
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The obsession with a few tenths of a second is pretty funny. At that precision, it comes down to driver, weather, tire pressure, countless other things that makes you the winner vs another putz in a bmw that you’ll race sooooo many times. /s. Tenths of a second is NOT a reason to buy or not to buy a car
These cars are all going to be in the same ballpark, and I'm sure there is something for everyone, based on their particular preferences. I'm glad we have options and aren't all driving the same car.
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So what's the standard gold procedure for everyone across the globe to follow for 0-60 times? I'm not slightly concern about what AoA admitted. Acura invited a bunch of Pro Honda / Acura journalists to their own event. It's all irreverent bias BS just like the comical S4 vs TLX-S race. AoA might as well test the TLX-S in my hometown after he's done at his "home" track.
Agree the "home track" statement is pure bulls**t. Dragy runs should be pretty representational of what you will actually see on the street in a random traffic light run. Thing is you need to be sure they guy is quoting the Actual time not the 1 foot rollout time as Dragy shows both.
With my Dragy the Z4 loses against the C&D posted test numbers with the 1 foot rollout 3.7 to 3.99. No real way to improve on my time without traction compound on the street, a perfect 70*F day, a hot street surface & a short burnout to heat the tires. Nothing random about those requirements.
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Just curious got a PM that said don't argue with Nexx he sells the TLX, is that true? If it is true don't you have a pocketbook agenda?
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#130
I really dont mind 0-60 times. Its not making it fully loaded. No HUD, 360 camera, heated steering wheel, power folding mirrors and so on...
EDIT: It does come with power folding mirrors, so why doesnt the A-Spec?? lol
EDIT: It does come with power folding mirrors, so why doesnt the A-Spec?? lol
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#131
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Notice the slow slide to 0-60 is nothing position as some of the times leak out.
Last week & earlier this week seemed like a lot of guys were all in on acceleration when talking about the TLX/Audi drag race was a hot topic. Even though the Audi is a dog it was a German scalp to hang up and brag about. Now the second thoughts & what if's are starting to creep in.
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A one second improvement over the 2.0T TLX for ~7k more should be a good thing all the time, no? Now if dealerships convert that 7k to 17k more, it's a waste of money no matter how good it looks. A 73k Type-S in Canada, you should really run not walk away from dealer.
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Now forget the TLX Audi MB BMW whatever & just focus on the number 4.7. In the current state of sports sedans 4.7 is slow. Most quicker sports sedans were in the 4.5 range 10 years ago. Now some cars will be built for quick acceleration & fall on their butts in the upper ranges. Some cars will be built for mid to upper range acceleration will be slow to 60. Others at the top of the range can do both. That's why people choose different cars even with the prices floating around in the same general range. I would consider $55,000 to $62,000 in the same range as discounts & incentives are big players in this area.
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zero pocketbook agenda brother. i get that people here want Acura to produce the best and fastest car. we all have owned an Acura at one point. we all loved an Acura at one point. Acura is alive today because they stay in their lane. they aren't trying to beat the Euro brands. They are a US/Canada brand. they want to provide products that hit the in midway points. not the fastest, not the most luxurious but great value for what you pay. my only issue is with the people who stay on this forum who have moved on to other products and constantly crap on Acura for something they do no want to be. I use to be a Nissan guy. I had a Z32 TT and loved it. I had a Z33 that I built and spent waaaay too much money too much money on. Nissan has lost it's way and as much as I want them to be best and greatest, I know its not going happen.. But I'm not lurking in the Nissan forums shitting on the Z34 or the new 400zx. Im sure Nissan fans are very much looking forward to the new Nissan products but who am I to tell them otherwise? If you love your Audi, great!!! Go and post on the Audi forums. If you love BMW, great!! Go post on the BMW forums. I happen to own both and an Acura. I appreciate what each brand brings to the table.
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zero pocketbook agenda brother. i get that people here want Acura to produce the best and fastest car. we all have owned an Acura at one point. we all loved an Acura at one point. Acura is alive today because they stay in their lane. they aren't trying to beat the Euro brands. They are a US/Canada brand. they want to provide products that hit the in midway points. not the fastest, not the most luxurious but great value for what you pay. my only issue is with the people who stay on this forum who have moved on to other products and constantly crap on Acura for something they do no want to be. I use to be a Nissan guy. I had a Z32 TT and loved it. I had a Z33 that I built and spent waaaay too much money too much money on. Nissan has lost it's way and as much as I want them to be best and greatest, I know its not going happen.. But I'm not lurking in the Nissan forums shitting on the Z34 or the new 400zx. Im sure Nissan fans are very much looking forward to the new Nissan products but who am I to tell them otherwise? If you love your Audi, great!!! Go and post on the Audi forums. If you love BMW, great!! Go post on the BMW forums. I happen to own both and an Acura. I appreciate what each brand brings to the table.
zero pocketbook agenda brother. i get that people here want Acura to produce the best and fastest car. we all have owned an Acura at one point. we all loved an Acura at one point. Acura is alive today because they stay in their lane. they aren't trying to beat the Euro brands. They are a US/Canada brand. they want to provide products that hit the in midway points. not the fastest, not the most luxurious but great value for what you pay. my only issue is with the people who stay on this forum who have moved on to other products and constantly crap on Acura for something they do no want to be. I use to be a Nissan guy. I had a Z32 TT and loved it. I had a Z33 that I built and spent waaaay too much money too much money on. Nissan has lost it's way and as much as I want them to be best and greatest, I know its not going happen.. But I'm not lurking in the Nissan forums shitting on the Z34 or the new 400zx. Im sure Nissan fans are very much looking forward to the new Nissan products but who am I to tell them otherwise? If you love your Audi, great!!! Go and post on the Audi forums. If you love BMW, great!! Go post on the BMW forums. I happen to own both and an Acura. I appreciate what each brand brings to the table.
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Also had a Camaro back in the day. Don't frequent their forums anymore either.
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Same thing for AoA 4.95s versus Redline's 4.73s, it becomes "it really depends on this and that". But when comparing S4's ~4.4 or M340's ~4.0s to the Type-S' ~4.7s, it becomes "who needs speed anyways". Funny how perspective changes things.
A one second improvement over the 2.0T TLX for ~7k more should be a good thing all the time, no? Now if dealerships convert that 7k to 17k more, it's a waste of money no matter how good it looks. A 73k Type-S in Canada, you should really run not walk away from dealer.
A one second improvement over the 2.0T TLX for ~7k more should be a good thing all the time, no? Now if dealerships convert that 7k to 17k more, it's a waste of money no matter how good it looks. A 73k Type-S in Canada, you should really run not walk away from dealer.
PERFORMANCE (C/D EST) TLX TYPE-S
60 mph: 4.6 sec
100 mph: 13.5 sec
1/4 mile: 13.7 sec
Disclaimer C&D has driven the car at Laguna Seca but without the test gear.
They front loaded the power curve & it does all its work to 60. Strong launch then its over. The other two Germans they did not bring run.
100 mph: 9.4 sec
1/4 mile: 12.4 sec
100 mph: 10.5 sec
1/4 mile: 12.6 sec
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LOL what? Can you admit that if redline tested the car and it did 4.4 you’d be on here giddy “owning the haters”. Take the passenger out he’s probably at 4.67. It’s Disappointing , you know it is no matter how much you want to claim it doesn’t matter.
#138
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Notice the slow slide to 0-60 is nothing position as some of the times leak out.
Last week & earlier this week seemed like a lot of guys were all in on acceleration when talking about the TLX/Audi drag race was a hot topic. Even though the Audi is a dog it was a German scalp to hang up and brag about. Now the second thoughts & what if's are starting to creep in.
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#139
By standards you mean launching on a public shoulder with an additional passenger? How many tenths of a second do you think that added to the TLX's 0-60?
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For a company bragging it's ass off for 2 years about performance crafted performance and a new engine for this. Very average at best. The key here is brand new engine, from a company that does minimal changes. For those expecting yearly improvements, just look at the NSX. Just cosmetics.
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The obsession with a few tenths of a second is pretty funny. At that precision, it comes down to driver, weather, tire pressure, countless other things that makes you the winner vs another putz in a bmw that you’ll race sooooo many times. /s. Tenths of a second is NOT a reason to buy or not to buy a car
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Most of these YT times are going to be in a wide spread just like they will in real life for the consumers. Only way you are going to get good comparisons are staying with one publication who uses a standardized test procedure, prepared surface, then runs the raw data through the same post test leveling software. These will be ideal best case times that you will not come close to in the street. Most will have a 1 foot rollout which will give at time of about 0.3 seconds quicker than actual. So those 4.8's could become 4.5 in C&D. A hot Sport Sedan time in 2011
Agree the "home track" statement is pure bulls**t. Dragy runs should be pretty representational of what you will actually see on the street in a random traffic light run. Thing is you need to be sure they guy is quoting the Actual time not the 1 foot rollout time as Dragy shows both.
With my Dragy the Z4 loses against the C&D posted test numbers with the 1 foot rollout 3.7 to 3.99. No real way to improve on my time without traction compound on the street, a perfect 70*F day, a hot street surface & a short burnout to heat the tires. Nothing random about those requirements.
Agree the "home track" statement is pure bulls**t. Dragy runs should be pretty representational of what you will actually see on the street in a random traffic light run. Thing is you need to be sure they guy is quoting the Actual time not the 1 foot rollout time as Dragy shows both.
With my Dragy the Z4 loses against the C&D posted test numbers with the 1 foot rollout 3.7 to 3.99. No real way to improve on my time without traction compound on the street, a perfect 70*F day, a hot street surface & a short burnout to heat the tires. Nothing random about those requirements.
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With the majority of those numbers falling in the high-5's to low-6's (i.e. a general consensus) and an odd number in the low 7's (i.e. an outlier). You'll learn that concept one day.
One of the small surprises yesterday is that Acura Canada confirmed their TLX Type S will have the 360 camera and heated steering wheel standard (among the other extras the US Type S doesn't get).
By standards you mean launching on a public shoulder with an additional passenger? How many tenths of a second do you think that added to the TLX's 0-60?
One of the small surprises yesterday is that Acura Canada confirmed their TLX Type S will have the 360 camera and heated steering wheel standard (among the other extras the US Type S doesn't get).
By standards you mean launching on a public shoulder with an additional passenger? How many tenths of a second do you think that added to the TLX's 0-60?
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[QUOTE=BEAR-AvHistory;16721731]
PERFORMANCE (C/D EST) TLX TYPE-S
60 mph: 4.6 sec
100 mph: 13.5 sec
1/4 mile: 13.7 sec
QUOTE]
those numbers seem wrong. C/D has the A Spec at 14.5 1/4 mile, 0-60 5.9 seconds 0-100@ 15.3. The type S gets to 60 in their estimate 1.3 seconds quicker but is only 0.8 second quicker in the quarter mile? So its significantly slower from 61-100 then the 2.0L? Something is amiss with that calculation.
PERFORMANCE (C/D EST) TLX TYPE-S
60 mph: 4.6 sec
100 mph: 13.5 sec
1/4 mile: 13.7 sec
QUOTE]
those numbers seem wrong. C/D has the A Spec at 14.5 1/4 mile, 0-60 5.9 seconds 0-100@ 15.3. The type S gets to 60 in their estimate 1.3 seconds quicker but is only 0.8 second quicker in the quarter mile? So its significantly slower from 61-100 then the 2.0L? Something is amiss with that calculation.
#142
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zero pocketbook agenda brother. i get that people here want Acura to produce the best and fastest car. we all have owned an Acura at one point. we all loved an Acura at one point. Acura is alive today because they stay in their lane. they aren't trying to beat the Euro brands. They are a US/Canada brand. they want to provide products that hit the in midway points. not the fastest, not the most luxurious but great value for what you pay. my only issue is with the people who stay on this forum who have moved on to other products and constantly crap on Acura for something they do no want to be. I use to be a Nissan guy. I had a Z32 TT and loved it. I had a Z33 that I built and spent waaaay too much money too much money on. Nissan has lost it's way and as much as I want them to be best and greatest, I know its not going happen.. But I'm not lurking in the Nissan forums shitting on the Z34 or the new 400zx. Im sure Nissan fans are very much looking forward to the new Nissan products but who am I to tell them otherwise? If you love your Audi, great!!! Go and post on the Audi forums. If you love BMW, great!! Go post on the BMW forums. I happen to own both and an Acura. I appreciate what each brand brings to the table.
zero pocketbook agenda brother. i get that people here want Acura to produce the best and fastest car. we all have owned an Acura at one point. we all loved an Acura at one point. Acura is alive today because they stay in their lane. they aren't trying to beat the Euro brands. They are a US/Canada brand. they want to provide products that hit the in midway points. not the fastest, not the most luxurious but great value for what you pay. my only issue is with the people who stay on this forum who have moved on to other products and constantly crap on Acura for something they do no want to be. I use to be a Nissan guy. I had a Z32 TT and loved it. I had a Z33 that I built and spent waaaay too much money too much money on. Nissan has lost it's way and as much as I want them to be best and greatest, I know its not going happen.. But I'm not lurking in the Nissan forums shitting on the Z34 or the new 400zx. Im sure Nissan fans are very much looking forward to the new Nissan products but who am I to tell them otherwise? If you love your Audi, great!!! Go and post on the Audi forums. If you love BMW, great!! Go post on the BMW forums. I happen to own both and an Acura. I appreciate what each brand brings to the table.
If you test drive it, enjoy the way it drives/looks/handles and are comfortable with what you are paying that is really all that matters. Plenty of choices out there today. It's good to hear other opinions but ultimately you are the one that will be driving the car. At some point end of year or next I will probably take one out for a test drive for curiosities sake. Am really interested to see if the trans has fast responsive shifts outside of the sport+ mode.
#143
Interesting numbers. C&D has made an estimate based on their time at the demo but did not say if was an actual or what the magazine would post with a rollout.
PERFORMANCE (C/D EST) TLX TYPE-S
60 mph: 4.6 sec
100 mph: 13.5 sec
1/4 mile: 13.7 sec
Disclaimer C&D has driven the car at Laguna Seca but without the test gear.
They front loaded the power curve & it does all its work to 60. Strong launch then its over. The other two Germans they did not bring run.
100 mph: 9.4 sec
1/4 mile: 12.4 sec
100 mph: 10.5 sec
1/4 mile: 12.6 sec
PERFORMANCE (C/D EST) TLX TYPE-S
60 mph: 4.6 sec
100 mph: 13.5 sec
1/4 mile: 13.7 sec
Disclaimer C&D has driven the car at Laguna Seca but without the test gear.
They front loaded the power curve & it does all its work to 60. Strong launch then its over. The other two Germans they did not bring run.
100 mph: 9.4 sec
1/4 mile: 12.4 sec
100 mph: 10.5 sec
1/4 mile: 12.6 sec
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/
This latest test car weighed in at a trim 3377 pounds, three pounds less than Honda's official number. All that lightweighting paired with the zestiest powertrain results in a 60-mph sprint in 5.4 seconds and a quarter-mile pass in 14.0 seconds at 101 mph.
#144
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This is funny, before the 20th, people were defending the Type-S for not having the HUD, 360 camera, heated steering wheel, touch screen, virtual cockpit, trunk brace and didn't care much for the 0-60 performance. After the 20th, the same people are up in arms trying to justify the 0-60 time.
One already mentioned about the elephant and I will mention it again. How many of you will put in your deposits for this Type-S?
One already mentioned about the elephant and I will mention it again. How many of you will put in your deposits for this Type-S?
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#145
Placed my deposit back on 4/16. Can't wait to drive the Type S. My buyer's order was for MSRP plus accessories. Requested Apex Blue/Ebony with HPT Option.
#147
So do we know the engine code/series for the Type S? There was a lot of talk if it's a J-series and if it has VTEC. I still can't find that info.
#148
CD just did 2021 Accord 2.0T 10AT, Sport trim. They got 5.4s. So the type S is 0.8s faster than a $25K cheaper Accord? That's unfortunate. And Accord is a thousand pounds lighter.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/
This latest test car weighed in at a trim 3377 pounds, three pounds less than Honda's official number. All that lightweighting paired with the zestiest powertrain results in a 60-mph sprint in 5.4 seconds and a quarter-mile pass in 14.0 seconds at 101 mph.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/
This latest test car weighed in at a trim 3377 pounds, three pounds less than Honda's official number. All that lightweighting paired with the zestiest powertrain results in a 60-mph sprint in 5.4 seconds and a quarter-mile pass in 14.0 seconds at 101 mph.
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This is funny, before the 20th, people were defending the Type-S for not having the HUD, 360 camera, heated steering wheel, touch screen, virtual cockpit, trunk brace and didn't care much for the 0-60 performance. After the 20th, the same people are up in arms trying to justify the 0-60 time.
One already mentioned about the elephant and I will mention it again. How many of you will put in your deposits for this Type-S?![Tongue](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
One already mentioned about the elephant and I will mention it again. How many of you will put in your deposits for this Type-S?
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I'll still defend it. My Accord 2.0 with Hondata stage 2 is like 6.5 0-60. So a 4.8-4.9 0-60 is fine to me. It's about how I feel when I drive the car. I'm not going to be doing full boost rips from every stop.
I think I remember seeing it on the video from the previous Stigg. He said it was J30CA I think? I'll have to find the video again.
#151
Totally ready to purchase and honestly can't wait. I'll be going from a 2005 TSX to this. I do wish it had HUD and heating steering wheel but I will survive. Super excited to finally upgrade. LOL! Been watching my wife drive a new car every 3 years. It's my turn now.
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0.8 seconds in a 0-60 time is massive. There is a huge difference between a car that does it in 5 vs 4 seconds (think TLX vs M3 -- and the M3 is 20k more). And you're comparing a car way out of its class. There are plenty of cheap cars with lots of HP. A Mustang GT is $35K and has 450hp. This comparison doesn't really make any sense though because people generally aren't cross shopping those two cars.
No one can satisfy fanboys. I feel like I'm on a Subaru forum.
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Makes a lot more sense than comparing TLX and a Mustang. Accord and TLX are both midsize sedans and come from the same company. Few weeks ago someone here posted they went from TLX to Accord and I said those shouldn't be compared because they're different tiers. I got ton of crap for saying that. Now that I accepted that consensus and compared it, I'm getting crap for comparing them........
No one can satisfy fanboys. I feel like I'm on a Subaru forum.
No one can satisfy fanboys. I feel like I'm on a Subaru forum.
Calling me a fanboy is hilarious though. I don't even own an Acura. You don't need to be a fanboy to point out nonsense.
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The heated steering wheel makes sense for Canada. Knowing Canadians get the 360 camera standard has to suck for US customers!
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Shoulder can be clean & fresh or not so clean & fresh. If the guy thought he would get shitty times due to the roads surface I expect he would not have done it. Launching off a shoulder would not be my first rodeo.
When doing some beta testing for a JB4 my test loop was two on ramps, 4 shoulders & repeat till 12 launches. There was no negative factor when comparing the graphs.
As for the passenger its like any number of things that you cant account for on a random traffic light GP. Passenger 150LBS Gas Full Tank 100LBS. Mix & match to your hearts content. The other car has the same random issues.
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PERFORMANCE (C/D EST) TLX TYPE-S
60 mph: 4.6 sec
100 mph: 13.5 sec
1/4 mile: 13.7 sec
QUOTE]
those numbers seem wrong. C/D has the A Spec at 14.5 1/4 mile, 0-60 5.9 seconds 0-100@ 15.3. The type S gets to 60 in their estimate 1.3 seconds quicker but is only 0.8 second quicker in the quarter mile? So its significantly slower from 61-100 then the 2.0L? Something is amiss with that calculation.
C&D TLX-TYPE-S
PERFORMANCE (C/D EST) TLX TYPE-S
60 mph: 4.6 sec
100 mph: 13.5 sec
1/4 mile: 13.7 sec
QUOTE]
those numbers seem wrong. C/D has the A Spec at 14.5 1/4 mile, 0-60 5.9 seconds 0-100@ 15.3. The type S gets to 60 in their estimate 1.3 seconds quicker but is only 0.8 second quicker in the quarter mile? So its significantly slower from 61-100 then the 2.0L? Something is amiss with that calculation.
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zero pocketbook agenda brother. i get that people here want Acura to produce the best and fastest car. we all have owned an Acura at one point. we all loved an Acura at one point. Acura is alive today because they stay in their lane. they aren't trying to beat the Euro brands. They are a US/Canada brand. they want to provide products that hit the in midway points. not the fastest, not the most luxurious but great value for what you pay. my only issue is with the people who stay on this forum who have moved on to other products and constantly crap on Acura for something they do no want to be. I use to be a Nissan guy. I had a Z32 TT and loved it. I had a Z33 that I built and spent waaaay too much money too much money on. Nissan has lost it's way and as much as I want them to be best and greatest, I know its not going happen.. But I'm not lurking in the Nissan forums shitting on the Z34 or the new 400zx. Im sure Nissan fans are very much looking forward to the new Nissan products but who am I to tell them otherwise? If you love your Audi, great!!! Go and post on the Audi forums. If you love BMW, great!! Go post on the BMW forums. I happen to own both and an Acura. I appreciate what each brand brings to the table.
zero pocketbook agenda brother. i get that people here want Acura to produce the best and fastest car. we all have owned an Acura at one point. we all loved an Acura at one point. Acura is alive today because they stay in their lane. they aren't trying to beat the Euro brands. They are a US/Canada brand. they want to provide products that hit the in midway points. not the fastest, not the most luxurious but great value for what you pay. my only issue is with the people who stay on this forum who have moved on to other products and constantly crap on Acura for something they do no want to be. I use to be a Nissan guy. I had a Z32 TT and loved it. I had a Z33 that I built and spent waaaay too much money too much money on. Nissan has lost it's way and as much as I want them to be best and greatest, I know its not going happen.. But I'm not lurking in the Nissan forums shitting on the Z34 or the new 400zx. Im sure Nissan fans are very much looking forward to the new Nissan products but who am I to tell them otherwise? If you love your Audi, great!!! Go and post on the Audi forums. If you love BMW, great!! Go post on the BMW forums. I happen to own both and an Acura. I appreciate what each brand brings to the table.
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04WDPSeDaN (05-21-2021)
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VTEC is a slick option name like SHAWD not a function.
The function of advancing & retarding the cam shafts in relation to the crankshaft is present on almost all modern cars including the Type-S. IIRC the TLX V6 uses oil pressure to move the device. My BMW is called VANOS & in oil pressure activated, in the FORD COYOTE its called VCT & is also oil pressure activated, the 420BHP Chevy is CVVT same stuff.
The function of advancing & retarding the cam shafts in relation to the crankshaft is present on almost all modern cars including the Type-S. IIRC the TLX V6 uses oil pressure to move the device. My BMW is called VANOS & in oil pressure activated, in the FORD COYOTE its called VCT & is also oil pressure activated, the 420BHP Chevy is CVVT same stuff.
Last edited by BEAR-AvHistory; 05-21-2021 at 01:53 PM.
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The problem isn't that you compared them. The problem is the metric you choose doesn't make any sense. The TLX isn't $20k more than an Accord because of the 0-60 time. Just like a M440i isn't "overpriced" relative to a Mustang GT because it makes less power.
Calling me a fanboy is hilarious though. I don't even own an Acura. You don't need to be a fanboy to point out nonsense.
Calling me a fanboy is hilarious though. I don't even own an Acura. You don't need to be a fanboy to point out nonsense.
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Haha I just noticed this too! The original claim was wrong that Gray wouldn't be available w/ red interior - but for some reason it's not with the wheel upgrade!! Wtf?!