jaybepr

Same here my friend, I was at Jhon Eagle back in July. The sales man called me when I was working on my papers @ Gillman, It was perfect timing

KrylonBlue

The one disappointment I've had so far is that the Dynamic Drive mode switches back to normal on start up. I want it to stay in Sport Mode upon start up but it doesn't appear that's possible.

neuronbob

Checked in with my preferred dealer, Motorcars Acura in Bedford (Cleveland), Ohio.

no cars available for test drive at this point
They are doing MSRP deals.

However, there’s a long line of interested folks so delivery will understandably take a while.

MarcoTLX

hmmm quick question, I probably should ask them myself, but do you know if Radley Acura in VA is charging ADM for the Type-S? Me and my mom got a good relationship with that dealership and I was just up there the other day inquiring about the Type-S.

My salesmen told me that they are taking deposits of $500. Never got to ask about ADM as I had to go back and check on my car that was getting serviced.

motlagh

Radley was $2k ADM last I checked.

MarcoTLX

ok not bad at all, thank you.. not bad at all would love if they just sold it at msrp lol

FreshTLX

Just left Acura of Sherman Oaks on Van Nuys in CA.

Brace yourself ... $20K over MSRP. No test drive.

That's the fastest I've ever walked out of a dealer.

MarcoTLX

they are going to have some difficulty selling that Type-S for sure…. I feel bad for anyone willing to pay $73k-$75k before taxes and title for a Acura Sedan

KrylonBlue

$20K over MSRP?!?!?!?!?!

I love Acura as a brand but that's insanity.

motlagh

Did they at least comp the vaseline?

Honda430

That’s astounding. I bought my last two Acuras from them. When the Type S hit the lots I went there to take a look. My sales guy told me they were going to charge ADM. I told him to call me when they were willing to do a little discounting. Looks like I won’t be hearing from him any time soon. 😂😂😂

FreshTLX

Yeah. I've been taking my TLX there for about a year to get it serviced. Not necessarily a good or bad experience, it's been fine. But after that interaction with the sales department, I won't ever go back there. Experiences like that are really frustrating and are what turn people away from a particular brand.

pyrodan007

A few thousand is borderline understandable in the current production limitation situation, but 20k. Car is in last place, but with adm now competes with a different class of cars with much more performance. I would love to have been a fly on the wall to hear their excuses.

mike03a3

That's beyond insane For that kind of money you can get a very well equipped 540ix!
Are people in California actually willing to pay that? Or even $10k ADM?

fiatlux

All you need to do is to find 1 buyer who's willing to pay that.

If you think that's bad, check out this $30K markup on a Veloster N from Hyundai of Anaheim

F23A4

I'm sure the Veloster N will get a pass....'cause 'N'.

CheeseyPoofs McNut

I'd pay 70K for that car since they already sprayed it with Armour All!

MDXAccord

I'm tracking dealers inventories around me. There are 10 Type-S around the area that have been sitting there for about 3 weeks. I don't think dealers will budge on their markup, especially since most of these dealers around me also have a Honda dealer attached to them that have sold Civic Type-R's for crazy Market Adjustment. I really want to know what compels people to pay any markup at all.

Justy48

Dealer: Hunt Valley Acura, Cockeysville, MD
Test Drive: No.
ADM: None
Price: (B4 T, T, and T): $53,944 incl $99 for Nitrogen
Trade-In: $15,000 for 2011 BMW 335ix (E92). Very competitive offer; it was only $600 less than CarMax.
Color: Apex Blue/Black
Extras: None, no pressure to buy.
Overall: Ordered 8/4/21. Delivered as promised on 8/24/21. Very professional experience.

MarcoTLX

WOAH I was just at this Acura Dealer today...I was inquiring about the Type-S since I am 75% sure Imma put a deposit down on one. Just some additional info for this dealer... their down deposit is $1000, and I was also told they have a Black on Black TLX Type-S iirc coming in at the end of September

Good to know they aren't charging ADM definitely gonna keep this dealer in mind. So far my preferred dealer, Radley Acura is accepting $500 deposits and little to no ADM, Hunt Valley is $1000 with no ADM. Hunt Valley is also willing to do a dealer trade to get the Type-S I am looking for so thats a plus (though I feel any dealer should be able to do that)

MDXAccord

Anyone in So Cal looking, the cheapest I have found is a $2500 markup. Well really a $5000 markup masked with accessories.

Apex Blue with White Interior
MSRP $53845
Trunk Tray $115
Wheel Locks $381
3M Clear Guard $399
KARR Security System $1330
Market Adjustment $2500
Total $58570

They have 4 sitting on the lot including one with the accessory wheels. I would go ahead and give them a call, I'm sure you can get some of these taken off. I did not get the Apex Blue mainly because of a trade-in that they did not want to budge on. Ask to speak to Andrea 310-706-8524

neuronbob

My salesperson at Motorcars Acura in Bedford (mentioned above) called me on Thursday and asked if I wanted to put a deposit down. The have a black/back, a white/black, and a silver/red coming in the next month or so. Still nothing there to test drive. At this point, I'm not sure I'm interested in giving up features compared to my RLX Sport Hybrid, and certainly not without a test drive. Mulling over the silver. In any case, give them a call if you want an MSRP deal.

ELIN

Your RLX gets similar 0-60 to the Type S, doesn't it? If you are in love with the look of the Type S and don't mind the big fuel econ drop, I would wait a bit for Acura to work out first year of a new generation issues. If you've been following the TLX threads, you know there's plenty of issues to go around. The most glaring are:

1) Wireless charging pad won't work on iPhone 12 and higher (still no fix)

2) Puddle lights on the side mirrors keep going out (still no permanent fix)

dmski

Those issues are very minor. 2022 is shaping up to be worse in terms of car supply. If you can get one at MSRP, I say do it. Don't expect any discounts on these for at least 2 years if ever.

Pens Fan

The TLX Type S is not available in Silver-Modern Steel Metallic is what the dealer is referring to.

MDXAccord

I would not expect Market Adjustment to go down anytime soon. A new report is saying the shortage will not end until 2023.

https://www.techradar.com/news/globa...-on-until-2023

MDXAccord

You're right........we can get back to topic at hand....

For those in SoCal I found a great deal for you

Acura in Thousand Oaks is selling a Type-S with 320 miles $55,825

MarcoTLX

55k but has 300 miles on it already..... what is going on with cars in SoCal being marked up higher than most other cars in the U.S. lol

leomio2.0

It’s probably the demo, so you know those were a hard 320miles.

caLiTLX

I was at the dealer, Montclair Acura in Southern California, the other day and I was able to get within $2k of markup. Prior to this, they had a $5k markup but willing to work with you if you go in and negotiate. From the $53k MSRP sticker price, I was at $55k and some change with the sales representative.

Needless to say, I pulled the trigger and purchased a new Type S; Modern Steel Metallic with red interior. I even got to test drive it before running any numbers, only had 5 miles and still had all the plastics on the inside. At the time, they had two white ones, a tiger eye pearl with all the accessories, and an apex blue.

I got a good interest rate which made it more appealing to buy. Not sure how true it is but the finance manager told
me that invoice price for these is at $51k - take that with a grain of salt since I didn’t see the actual invoice.

mike03a3

So they had five, probably a good percentage of their original quota, sitting on the lot and were still expecting $5K ADM? I would think the fact that they had five instead of a waiting list would have been a clue that they needed to get serious because the hype based demand has faded. Right now those cars are sitting on his floorplan costing him money. I would have told him MSRP or I'm walking. Odds are he would have caved.

Dealer invoice is a somewhat fictitious number. The dealers get a variety of kick-backs and incentives so their actual cost is below invoice. In normal, non COVID times, it was common to be able to get below invoice if you were patient and bought at the right time of the month, quarter or year when they were trying to book everything possible.

In any event, congrats on the car. I'm sure you will love it.

ELIN

Invoice is close to $51k if you get a premium color.

leomio2.0

I wonder, with the availability of information via the internet, if they simply just lie about "invoice price" to make people feel like they "stole the car" from the dealership. At $2k less than sticker price, I can't see actual invoice being remotely close to that price. Honestly, I have a hard time believing invoice is even close to 10% of that the sticker price is, especially when you see some deals that people get, even before incentives.

There's no reason to pay mark-up on the Type-S ... heck, after the first year or so, no reason to pay sticker either. The M340i and S4 could be had with a respectable discount (9-11%) pre-pandemic. Yes, the Type-S stickers for less, but you're getting less car too (no argument, it is what it is at this point).

dmski

Dealers are asking for markups on anything limited these days whether it's Type S or Veloster N and only getting worse. I picked up mine for MSRP but seeing empty lots now two months later I wonder if they would offer sticker price today....

leomio2.0

True, but there are more Type-S's sitting on lots in dealers around me then there are MDXs on the lot. Mind you, they're still single digits, but I'm just saying you may have a shot at getting one at sticker still. I've also seen two on the roads with registered plates this past week, so they're at least being sold around here too.

Unless you're leasing or your car took a shit, I see no good reason to buy a car right now. I was aiming to buy myself a new car around late-'22/early-'23, but that's going to be pushed back at least a year, seeing as this chip shortage is seemingly going to last thru most of 2022, and even then, the supply:demand curve likely won't correct itself for a while after that. I would hope that this whole pandemic debacle would teach people to view their cars less as such disposable items, but we all know that's never going to happen.

MarcoTLX

yeah a few dealers around me still got Type-S’s sitting on lots so that gives me hope too… my car hasn’t shitted itself but I’m missing features I realized I wanted a few months after I first got my current TLX so I’m willing to pay the price (and negotiate) for trading in for a Type-S (if not an AWD A-Spec)

Edward'TLS

Dealers let the TLX Type-S cars sitting in back lots rather than taking down their ADM, because these are Type-S and not regular TLX cars. Similarly, when the MDX Type-S comes out, don't be surprise to see MDX Type-S SUVs, which carry hefty ADM, also sitting in back lots for the same reason.

ELIN

I wonder how many Type S's floated away from lots last week. Unsold cars are a liability in more ways than one!

Edward'TLS

^^^^^

Over at the 4G MDX sub-forum, a member just mentioned that his dealer phoned him to return his deposit on a 2022 MDX order, because the factory had stopped making the SUV. Seems like the new vehicle shortage is only getting worse, not better.

So this becomes a game of who can wait longer under this limited vehicle supply : the dealers who want to cash out the unsold cars, or the buyers who get tired of waiting forever for the car price to drop.

In terms of financial spreadsheets, unsold cars (with ADM) command a higher book value than actually selling them without ADM and/or below MSRP.

Xterminator

My dealer that's selling for MSRP called me saying that they had a 2021 Type S allocated to them today with my color choice with a build date in October and delivery in early November. This one doesn't have the performance wheels though since it's on back-order. Not sure if I should let this one slide if the 2022 models are supposedly coming out in November. I told them I'd take it, but I'm having second thoughts in case they do make any changes for 2022. I'd also have to deal with the extra set of wheels, though it's not as much of a concern.