Pens Fan

Not sure if this is the issue with the lack of Advance features on the TLX PMC but I heard that no Advance TLX have been produced in calendar 2022. Hard to believe actually !!

csmeance

I wonder if this is due to a parts/chips shortage...

MarcoTLX

Well that sucks I would have been more inclined to go after a Type-S PMC if it had the Advanced package. Since it doesn't I guess the better buy would be the Base TLX Type-S. However the Long Beach Blue Type-S PMC is a looker. Not fond of the bronze looking wheels would prefer a gloss black color to help make the black door handles and accents pop more. Orchid is a cool interior color but I worry about how I can keep that interior looking clean since I like to wear jeans alot. We'll see though...... Tiger Eye Pearl and Performance Red Pearl is colors im very keen on...come to think of it I haven't seen too many Performance Red Type-S cars either

fiatlux

I imagine it has to be due to the parts shortage. It makes no sense otherwise that Acura wouldn't offer a truly fully loaded version for this car.

ESHBG

Possibly. But as a few of you know now I feel as if the TLX's days are numbered and I don't think that they wanted to put anymore money into it. How can an Advance package not be built/offered on a luxury[ish] car (and especially in comparison to the rest of the lineup)? It doesn't make much sense.

With the new Accord on the way that will be loaded by all accounts this makes for a strange hole in Acura's lineup.

djhtsx

iTrader: (2)

The tlx ain’t going anywhere. There are already spy shots of the upcoming 2024 version with minor changes and rumors of the MMC 2025 or 26

MarcoTLX

How I feel considering the RDX can be had in the A-Spec Advanced package making that model’s PMC edition obsolete in a way, the MDX Type-S can be had with the optional Advanced Package too!

but why not the TLX? smh

Tesla1856

Agreed. After having power-folding mirrors, surround cameras, and ventilated seats in one vehicle for a while ... I would never by a new Premium one (in this price range) without those options. But that's just me.

Tesla1856

Oh really? Out of the TLX-2.0T's, that's the only one I was interested in enough to buy. It was loaded and IIRC, the dash materials and some other stuff was better. Oh, suspension was tricked-out also. I have a list here somewhere. Tech should have been Base. A-Spec was mainly cosmetic upgrades, so only Advance really had upgraded hardware features over Tech.

Honda430

The best used deals seem to be on the Advance models. The A-Spec SHAWD appears to be the TLX G2 model with the best retained value.

Tesla1856

Advance shAWD would be nice. You can put a OEM tail-fin on it (and whatever other bolt-on body-parts) if that is important to you. Not talking about "fast/speed" but be sure it's "quick" enough for you. They might have fixed that with a firmware-update or something by now.

ESHBG

We shall see. The sedan segment is dying rapidly (and what is left is getting competitive, especially features-wise) and with the move to EV I am not sure how much money Acura is going to want to send in the TLX's direction.

fiatlux

Honda will continue to build sedans, even in an EV world. I’d expect at the least for Acura to offer a rebadged version since development cost would be minimal.

leomio2.0

Link to said spy shots?

richii0207

I remember seeing them the Type S FB page. If you’re in that group it should be accessible.

bilirubin

at the 13:03 mark

ESHBG

Sure but the TLX as it is known now will not exist for much longer. And a prototype doesn't mean much to me yet because A) costs are minimal right now and it could still be tweaked or even scrapped B) the changes may be very minimal. Acura has been cheap-ing out lately and this may be another case of that.

And with California's announcement today who knows how many models may be on the chopping block now:

• California, the country’s most populous state and the center of U.S. car culture, is banning the sale of new gasoline-powered vehicles starting in 2035, marking a historic step in the state’s battle against climate change.
• The rule will force automakers to speed up production of cleaner vehicles beginning in 2026.
• The policy will not ban people from owning and driving conventional vehicles or from selling them on the used market.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/25/cali...s-by-2035.html

djhtsx

iTrader: (2)

I’m just not understanding your belief that the TLX will no longer be produced soon. There is no indication that production will end plus as mentioned there are future plans for the TLX. I assume it will transition into a EV model as well.

Tesla1856

Well, he did say "TLX as it is known now" which is a ICE-only vehicle.

I just hope PHEV continue to be a thing. I think that is a much-less "hard sell" to consumers (as well as alleviating the strain on charging stations). For normal trips around town, our 2020 Audi Q5-e is getting over 100 mpg. We just charge it at home (in a few hours) with it's included 240v charger . Actually, thinking about buying-out-the-lease and keeping it a while longer. We only have 5,000 miles on it (after 2.5 years).

ESHBG

Because it's in a strange spot and they sure aren't doing much to help it. Add in the continued resource shortages and the general costs and a business decision may need to be made.

And I am not counting just the name TLX, I'm referring to the car in its current form or close to it.
Exactly.

Agreed and I think that the current plan is too much too fast and it's going to be a big headache, they should be walking into this vs the plans now.

neuronbob

Defintely a more cohesive design. It makes an already handsome sedan more so. I have no issue at all with the way the car looks, it's Acura's best design in some time, in my opinion.

Yes, it is. Blue with black is also pretty good.

BOWA41

Small update from dealer today...the ordering for PMC has been delayed. Could possibly sometime in October but no definitive answer from Acura according to my dealer. Anyone else heard anything? Supposedly that update came from Acura on Friday to the dealers.

Puma3

I had a similar message from my dealer yesterday, 9/20/2022, that the order book will open in October.

Puma3

Update from my Dealer today: Only 150 2023 TLX Type S PMC will be manufactured. The technology package will be the Advanced Package like the 2023 MDX Type S . Three order times, Oct- Red, Nov - White, Dec - Blue ( I believe I have those correct but know Dec is Blue). Buyers must register on the Acura site and make deposits to avoid dealers buying for inventory like what happened with the NSX. Pricing is unknown but likely high $70,000 to low $80,000...

ELIN

Good info. Nothing beats creating demand by making things “limited.” Not sure if making folks wait for certain colors is smart though. “Special of the day” may work for dining but for car buying?!!!

mvl

Per the youtube below, 150 will be avail for customer order online where you pick a destination dealer (with the above 3 online order dates), and 150 more will be allocated to dealers to sell how they wish.

fiatlux

High 70s low 80s puts it into M3/RS5/C63 pricing. Buyers would realllllllly have to want an Acura to be willing to pay that much....

ESHBG

Yeah this is wild and another head scratcher for me. There are used TLX PMCs near me that haven't moved as well as used Type-S cars. Is there really going to be a demand for this PMC model, especially at this price?

pyrodan007

For a derivative that has zero performance gains versus the market's pricing, it's a very hard sell. Even more so when equipment is not that unique versus non-PMC, just paint really.

ELIN

All Acura needs is 150 superfans. Surely this number exists!

Honda430

Regarding that price range color me a skeptic. More than likely that assumes some ridiculous dealer markup. To match the Advance features all that needs to be added is the HUD and surround camera. The 16 way power seats and suspension bits are already standard. That basically leaves upgraded paint and a minor upgrade to the wheels. I’d be surprised if MSRP is above $61K. I’m basing this on the current price separation between the RDX PMC and the Aspec/Advance being only $3K. Based on the amount of money some folks seem to be spending to customize the Type S the only thing that will keep them on the lot is the inevitable dealer markup.

Taking into account that we only have 5 Type S sitting on dealers’ lots here in So Cal ordering a PMC might be the quickest way to get one which unfortunately increases the chance the model will be marked up astronomically.

richii0207

None of the PMC vehicles that Acura had on display at Petit Le Mans had a HUD button nor a front camera above the Acura logo for 360 cam. Is the advanced package a different PMC trim in addition to the base Type S trim?

ESHBG

I'm with you, in doing some research I don't think this info is accurate and the PMC will not include any Advance features and in line with what was originally announced.

GhostTL09

iTrader: (1)

PMC has no additional options. It's basically a Type-S with an additional appearance package. There are no new buttons on the dash for Advance features.

Honda430

i can only surmise Acura did that to keep the MSRP under $60K.

MarcoTLX

I’m sorry but hell no. I believe the 150 unit exclusivity but $70k-$80k?! At that price point I’m looking at much better cars for the money.

like it was said before, if this car MSRP’s for even a penny over $60k it will be DOA before it even hits dealer’s lots

leomio2.0

Looking at historic pricing for the PMC versions of their "regular" editions, pricing isn't too much higher. I'd be shocked if it were priced higher than $60k. Maybe said dealer was guesstimating what the car would cost after ADM ...

bilirubin

I typically take dealer info with a grain of salt. According to Acura's press release...
source: https://acuranews.com/en-US/releases...rrow-october-6

fiatlux

Is it confirmed that this is strictly just an appearance package? No additional features?

Tony Pac

This car doesn’t make sense. No new features and significant price increase. For what? Paint job?

I am sorry Acura. This doesn’t make sense. Unless, we are missing something… more HP, more features.