Acura TLX Type S: 355 HP / 354 TQ est.
#201
A common excuse I'm seeing here is , "HP Isn't everything", "Nobody can use all the power anyway" or "Numbers aren't everything". All which isn't true otherwise cars would still be putting out 120 HP if nobody cared. I always use all the power my cars have. Whether going out for a weekend drive or flooring it to merge on the freeway. Yes I push the car and use all he power. Also Nobody wants to spend 50+ K for a car to feel underwhelmed. If the competition keeps elevating there's no excuse for Acura not to and making excuses for them only add's to their laziness. The only reason they made the Type S was because they actually listened to people's want's even if it's not a huge number. They need to do something other than be known for SUV's.
Alex on Autos had a funny quip last week about Acura:
"If you go to the country club in a BMW or a Mercedes, everyone is going to think your finances are just fine. But if you roll up an Acura, people are going to wonder what happened to your trust fund."
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I don't know about that, the 1G TLX had much less NVH than any mainstream sedan, the ELS system is better than any mainstream sound system, and the DCT in the 2.4L version is way better than any slushbox or CVT found in the mainstream models. The NVH was probably the most shocking part to me; it'd give Lexus a run for its money, and Lexus is well known for having very low NVH.
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There’s something that I don’t understand. You guys are bitching about the S only having 355 HP, but nobody wants to pay more than $50k. That 340i most of you are raving about cost $63,000 when equipped like the S assuming the S has a heads up display. Question, how much above $50k would you be willing to pay for 35 more HP which would probably come at the cost of longevity? 🤷🏾♂️
So, yes, it is possible to build a killer car for mid 50.....355 HP for the sexy looking 2G TLX is way too little, that car deserves more.
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I don't know about that, the 1G TLX had much less NVH than any mainstream sedan, the ELS system is better than any mainstream sound system, and the DCT in the 2.4L version is way better than any slushbox or CVT found in the mainstream models. The NVH was probably the most shocking part to me; it'd give Lexus a run for its money, and Lexus is well known for having very low NVH.
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As for the Charger, I've driven many a chargers, from base rental/poverty spec SXT ones to 392s and even a Hellcat. It's really nice inside and quite refined, but there's definitely more tire noise and wind noise. BTW a Charger is a full size sedan, so I'm not sure why you're bringing that up...
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#207
But the 1G isn't a sports sedan...it's a FWD-based car built on the same platform as the 9G Accord. In my eyes (and probably most buyers) it's a smaller, cheaper, and nimbler Lexus ES350.
As for the Charger, I've driven many a chargers, from base rental/poverty SXT ones to 392s and even a Hellcat. It's really nice inside and quite refined, but there's definitely more tire noise and wind noise.
As for the Charger, I've driven many a chargers, from base rental/poverty SXT ones to 392s and even a Hellcat. It's really nice inside and quite refined, but there's definitely more tire noise and wind noise.
An Acura should have not targeted an ES350
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And so what if they did? How is that relevant? I'm still waiting for which mainstream midsize sedan you think is just as good as the 1G TLX. I would love to know, because if it's true then I must have a massive blindspot in my understanding of current cars.
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I think all these problems go away if they simply don’t call this upcoming Type S a “Type S”.
If “Type S” is meant to be the top of the line flagship for a specific model, how can customers feel good about a car that doesn’t even approach the specs of the competition’s mid-rung offerings?
Mind Truly Boggled.
If “Type S” is meant to be the top of the line flagship for a specific model, how can customers feel good about a car that doesn’t even approach the specs of the competition’s mid-rung offerings?
Mind Truly Boggled.
#210
Mazda 6 turbo much more entertaining to drive
The already mentioned Charger...a similarly priced RT made mincemeat of the TLX pretty much across the board...performance, comfort, fun to drive.
Even the much maligned out of production Chrysler 200 AWD was actually better in some areas (infotainment, tech gadgets) 80-90% as good in terms of driving for like 13K less (MSRP)...yes it was a bit more noisy (nothing unbearable) and the stereo was not as good.
No need to mention the Stinger....
Pretty much any of the modern crop of turbo 4 midsize sedan was at the end of the day better than the 4 banger TLX (including a Malibu Turbo) especially when you consider the price differences.
Yes, you said it, I believe that TLX buyers had a massive blindspot when they bought the car if they thought they were getting anything better than a very good mainstream sedan (better in some areas, worse in others in model by model comparison)....I think Acura was simply riding on the coattails of its past reputation
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On the noise thing & sports sedans. Most are so quite inside they are piping in the engine noise through the entertainment system. I get different noise levels based on what drive mode I am in. Its called Active Sound Design. With my programmer I can even call up the noise inputs from other models. That said I don't think a very low NVH is either material or a winner in selling to the actual sports sedan class of buyer.
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For what they charge for new sedans in this price-range, they all better have good NVH and reliability when New. But what about after 5 years and 50,000 miles ?
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The 2G TLX looks noticeably bigger than the 1G, some are saying it’s approximately the same size as the 4G TL, which means it will very likely weigh more than the outgoing model. I’m thinking the 355hp will only give it a slight advantage over the 290hp in the smaller, lighter-weight 1G TLX. If my hypothesis is correct, they really shouldn’t even bother calling this the Type S, because this engine output only allows it to compensate for the weight difference. It’s going to be pretty funny when the road tests come back with virtually identical 0-60 and 1/4-mile times as the outgoing V6 model.
If Acura were to read these threads, I think it will teach them to never release info on a car this early.
Sounds like most Acura enthusiasts that were originally interested in the Type-S have already talked-themselves out of it ... before it even hits the showroom floor.
Sounds like most Acura enthusiasts that were originally interested in the Type-S have already talked-themselves out of it ... before it even hits the showroom floor.
I think you should walk into BMW and test drive the M340i, since you mentioned it before. You will waste some time in your day but it will give you an idea of it's performance. Once you have that performance and especially as an enthusiast, you get the itch for more power. The temptation to hit that sport plus button and blow someones doors out is high. The 2 out of 3 vehicles owned put down more power than most of what is being discussed here, and I assure you, there's always an urge for more. I think you say you will be OKAY with XYZ til you actually get into something that has proven performance. I know you're a big Acura / Honda fan, but get out there and test drive other vehicles. Across the board, a majority of people lease vehicles. There are plenty of them on here. So the concern about long term reliability and resale is an excuse not to get another brand, IMO.
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Yep. I've driven my wife's 15 TLX V6 Advance Package and drove a 15 335i. Love the way the BMW feels. Always been a fan of the 3 series. But I don't see myself owning one. I don't go just on power as I mentioned. I owned an 2010 TSX and drove a 328i. Loved the 328i. TSX was just more practical having to fit kids and luggage for family trips. The TSX still had pep. Working at Honda, I get to drive the trades. Drove a 2012 IS250 and I'm SO glad I didn't get one. Slow as crap. No space. Drove an Audi A3. Loved the look of it. Handled great. Still no interior space. I get to drive different cars here all the time. Especially when some of my customers are car enthusiast and let me ride with them. Don't get me wrong. I would love to have a 3 series BMW. But for maintenance? Don't want that headache after 40k+. I trust your word over just anyone here. I respect you as well. Especially the experience you have. But I'll hold all judgement until I actually drive the car with the wife when they hit the lot.
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Problem is that Acura (and Honda for that matter), as far as I remember, has never surprised on the upside when it comes to acceleration compared to the advertised power. Is not BMW
355 HP should realistically put it into the mid-high 4.
355 HP should realistically put it into the mid-high 4.
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Lots of vaid points made above. However, Ifor most of us, performance is strictly about speed. No one buys a TLX to be the fastest one off the line, which is why the Challenger or Mustang GT and other similar cars cater to that secton of the marketplace. Performance is also handling, something the new SH-AWD will do in spades, chasis rigidity, suspension, steering, etc. With the exception of 1-2 percent of drivers, over represented here for obvious reasons, these are the qualities that many enthusiasts would want, along with excellent acceleration. IMHO, I believe Acura is shooting for a broader sectiion of the market for the Type S, where excess HP and poor fuel economy would be a deal breaker (along with the larger price tag). Whether 354 HP and 350 Torque are in the sweet spot remains to be seen.
I also think that the 2.0 T version numbers are designed to accomplish a similar objective by providing a good handling car with solid mid range power numbers to appeal to the 4 cylinder and smaller 6 buyers. Again, time will tell but it's not the greatest period to be launching these new sedans, for many reasons.
I also think that the 2.0 T version numbers are designed to accomplish a similar objective by providing a good handling car with solid mid range power numbers to appeal to the 4 cylinder and smaller 6 buyers. Again, time will tell but it's not the greatest period to be launching these new sedans, for many reasons.
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The 355hp is what I actually expected. Honda/Acura don't put out 400hp numbers on every day cars. The NSX. Sure. Not the daily cars though. The test will come back and people will be surprised.
Exactly. They see 355hp and everyone get their panties in a bunch. Every time I see someone downing or saying "I'm disappointed" before they've even driven the vehicle or even see ant actual test on them, to me, they were already gave up on Acura and were already looking for another brand. They have no faith at all.
Exactly. They see 355hp and everyone get their panties in a bunch. Every time I see someone downing or saying "I'm disappointed" before they've even driven the vehicle or even see ant actual test on them, to me, they were already gave up on Acura and were already looking for another brand. They have no faith at all.
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All purchased brand new. Have owned lots of other cars as well, which helps to put things into perspective. I don’t remember any Acura that impressed in a magazine road test other than the original NSX and maybe the odd Integra here or there. But anyway, the new Type S might drive great, have excellent NVH, be priced right and all that. But if it’s underpowered relative to its competition, it’ll be a tough sell (to loyal customers like me).
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Problem is that right now you can walk to a CDJR dealership, fork the south side of mid 50K (actually less, there is the inevitable money on the hood) and get a fully loaded (Nappa leather wrapped dash and upper door panels, before someone complain about bad plastic) Charger SRT 392 Widebody that does 60 in 3.6, corners at 0.97g, tops at 180 MPH, huge 6 piston Brembo brakes in front (4 in the back) Bilstein adaptive dampers, eDiff, the most comfortable seats south of 90K and, more importantly, is ready for the track without affecting your warranty.
So, yes, it is possible to build a killer car for mid 50.....355 HP for the sexy looking 2G TLX is way too little, that car deserves more.
So, yes, it is possible to build a killer car for mid 50.....355 HP for the sexy looking 2G TLX is way too little, that car deserves more.
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It's funny, Acura couldn't out-luxury the competition, and they wanted to get rid of the "value-luxury" stigma, so they're changing their brand identity to be built around performance. OK, that's fair, but if you're going to say that your brand is about performance, even matching the competition's isn't enough; it has to beat them. Beat them on paper, beat them at the track, beat them everywhere. Otherwise, you'll just be known as "value-performance". Enthusiasts don't want "same performance for a lower price". They want "same price for better performance".
Alex on Autos had a funny quip last week about Acura:
Alex on Autos had a funny quip last week about Acura:
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I read through these chats and honestly it's like this. Either you feeling the car or not, but don't create a story for yourself to justify why you don't like the car or why Acura missed or whatever. Half you MoFo's will buy one at some point talking all this crap lol. I never thought I'd own a 4G. I was driving my 01 TL with 70k miles and got the 4G as a loaner and was like "yuck" I'll never buy this, but guess what. 7 years after it came out I drove one and was like ok Nice luxury premium entry blah blah blah SHAWD 2012 and I was like wow. What a fun car to drive. Even though I have Bimmer money I'm good with what I love and that's Acura. So I'll skip totally on the 1G TLX Sure they aren't perfect and I don't want to be in a struggle on the highway with a fucking Optima LMAO, but bottom line love what you drive and leave the nay sayers be. 355 HP sounds good to me, but I'm more worried about low speed handling, interstate throttle response and do I look good in this bitch. All that other bullshit is for the birds. I've driven a 2018 Lexus IS350, some of their interior plastic as hell, cheap material. BMW always got blown tail lights or you gotta overpay by 15k to get a desirable trim level for resale value when you want to sell or trade so you in the hole unless you put 30% down at purchase, and KIA, Hyundai, etc is still crap. It's just dressed up and got yall fooled. Genesis G70 hot though lol. Haven't driven yet but I will soon. That TLX is gonna look gorgeous in person. It'll sell and we passed on a 2020 MDX for 28k OTD with 9 miles on it sitting on the showroom floor just because I know the next MDX is gonna be fire too. I'm done, yall get back to tuning numbers and dyno WHP stats lol.
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You mentioned the Stinger and that you and your wife thought talked about it. In terms of reliability now and days what’s your opinion when it comes to reliability Acura vs. Kia? I know a lot of people rave about the Stinger yet I hardly see one on the road. So I have decided to put the Stinger on the list along with the TLX.
I really and truly appreciate the kind words and it means a lot to me. thank you! Your character speaks for itself! As someone who was also an ASE master certified technician with over 12 years of pushing wrenches from all vehicles from A to Z and worked for several Dealerships, I've experienced a lot which is why I say things from experience. I don't just say crap just to say it nor am I brand loyal. I love what I've owned and currently own because it works for my wife and I. I always said I WILL NEVER OWN GERMAN, only Japanese vehicles. Guess what, over time my perspective changed and what made certain brands popular lost their footing. I owned a 95 (Stillen) 5-speed Maxima. The A32 was one of the best Maxima's made. It introduced one of the best made engines, VQ series. I briefly owned a 96 S500 Mercedes and man what a vehicle. I remember doing spark plugs and wires on that engine (back in high school) and it blew my mind the engineering that went into that vehicle. I was in love with my parents 93 Volvo 850 GLT with a 5 speed manual. I wanted a C70 coupe for the longest time. My parents ended up getting a 2003 Nissan Pathfinder LE and it was an amazing SUV and it had its own common issues with a half ass design to replace the front rotors. 1st real German vehicle I owned for 5 years was a 2006 ML350 which was a work horse. It was such a solid feeling vehicle and incredibly quiet on the highway. It did suffer all the common issues and the repair costs were high. The 2011 Optima we owned was a great vehicle as well, though the 2.4 engine was a terrible choice because it was balls slow but overall a great vehicle and ended up saving my wifes life. I replaced the ML mercedes with a 2018 BMW X3 xdrive30i and two years later it's been solid. My wife loved the X3 that she really wanted one as well. I didn't want another base model, so I found a loaded 19 M40i which is incredible and hasn't given me any issues. I love my TL which is why I still own it after 14 years and it being in pristine condition. When my wife and I were looking for her replacement, we test drove every single vehicle that we were both interested in. From sedans to SUV's. I really wanted to get a stinger but she didn't want another KIA (mainly due to the accident, PTSD). Down the road from now, who knows where Acura is going to be. They might make vehicles that would bring me back. For right now I own my vehicles. They are here for many years ahead. Whatever you and your wife decide on next, will be the best choice for you two. Regardless of what it is because at the end of the day, it only matters to you two. ![Thumbs Up](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
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You mentioned the Stinger and that you and your wife thought talked about it. In terms of reliability now and days what’s your opinion when it comes to reliability Acura vs. Kia? I know a lot of people rave about the Stinger yet I hardly see one on the road. So I have decided to put the Stinger on the list along with the TLX.
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I read through these chats and honestly it's like this. Either you feeling the car or not, but don't create a story for yourself to justify why you don't like the car or why Acura missed or whatever. Half you MoFo's will buy one at some point talking all this crap lol. I never thought I'd own a 4G. I was driving my 01 TL with 70k miles and got the 4G as a loaner and was like "yuck" I'll never buy this, but guess what. 7 years after it came out I drove one and was like ok Nice luxury premium entry blah blah blah SHAWD 2012 and I was like wow. What a fun car to drive. Even though I have Bimmer money I'm good with what I love and that's Acura. So I'll skip totally on the 1G TLX Sure they aren't perfect and I don't want to be in a struggle on the highway with a fucking Optima LMAO, but bottom line love what you drive and leave the nay sayers be. 355 HP sounds good to me, but I'm more worried about low speed handling, interstate throttle response and do I look good in this bitch. All that other bullshit is for the birds. I've driven a 2018 Lexus IS350, some of their interior plastic as hell, cheap material. BMW always got blown tail lights or you gotta overpay by 15k to get a desirable trim level for resale value when you want to sell or trade so you in the hole unless you put 30% down at purchase, and KIA, Hyundai, etc is still crap. It's just dressed up and got yall fooled. Genesis G70 hot though lol. Haven't driven yet but I will soon. That TLX is gonna look gorgeous in person. It'll sell and we passed on a 2020 MDX for 28k OTD with 9 miles on it sitting on the showroom floor just because I know the next MDX is gonna be fire too. I'm done, yall get back to tuning numbers and dyno WHP stats lol.
Couldn't have said it better myself!!!
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They also put out an article stating they think the Hellcat powered Ram Revel TRX will start around $56k. The Hellcat powered Durango and Jeep are close to 100k. How they devised that the Ram will be almost half that is beyond me. I like C&D, but I wouldn’t trust their pricing as it’s purely speculative.
I doubt the TLX-S starts at 45k ... current A-Spec starts at that. It’s going to start around $49k would be my guess after the release of their power figures. Very unlikely they’re going to “steal” any customers from the Germans. More than likely sell very few and to people who come in to buy the TLX and decide/convinced to upgrade. Car consumers are dumb. The vast majority will talk badges and numbers. If a guy with a BMW M340i talks about how he has 382HP, the people who go for them won’t care if the TLX-S is technically just as fast in every performance bracket. More prestige and more bragging rights around the water cooler.
I doubt the TLX-S starts at 45k ... current A-Spec starts at that. It’s going to start around $49k would be my guess after the release of their power figures. Very unlikely they’re going to “steal” any customers from the Germans. More than likely sell very few and to people who come in to buy the TLX and decide/convinced to upgrade. Car consumers are dumb. The vast majority will talk badges and numbers. If a guy with a BMW M340i talks about how he has 382HP, the people who go for them won’t care if the TLX-S is technically just as fast in every performance bracket. More prestige and more bragging rights around the water cooler.
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You mentioned the Stinger and that you and your wife thought talked about it. In terms of reliability now and days what’s your opinion when it comes to reliability Acura vs. Kia? I know a lot of people rave about the Stinger yet I hardly see one on the road. So I have decided to put the Stinger on the list along with the TLX.
BTW, I'm seeing more and more Stingers on the road. Until a couple of months ago, I'd seen just one in Philly, but now I'm seeing them on a regular basis. Not frequent, mind you, but regular. I saw a gorgeous blue one today.
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My one neighbor got a Stinger about a year ago and so far so good. My other neighbor just bought a Forte GT and I checked it out today, a very nice car for the price point. She'll probably let me drive it or take me for a ride one day so I will see how it performs. But for the money they are very nice and I would consider owning one at this point.
But aren't those Korean ... like Hyundai ? I've always thought the Koreans are good at "copying" (and not just cars) and apparently have some good body designers/copiers (yes, they "look" pretty). I suggest you rent one before you buy one.
Who knows, maybe they are great now. However, I would use caution grouping them with the Japanese brands.
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Base TLX starts at 35K
+2K for SHAWD
+5.9K for A-Spec
+7K for Type-S
= $49,995 before destination
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First, no offence to anyone here who owns a Kia (and I might be talking out my rear because I've never actually owned one ) ... but I have drove rentals.
But aren't those Korean ... like Hyundai ? I've always thought the Koreans are good at "copying" (and not just cars) and apparently have some good body designers/copiers (yes, they "look" pretty). I suggest you rent one before you buy one.
Who knows, maybe they are great now. However, I would use caution grouping them with the Japanese brands.
But aren't those Korean ... like Hyundai ? I've always thought the Koreans are good at "copying" (and not just cars) and apparently have some good body designers/copiers (yes, they "look" pretty). I suggest you rent one before you buy one.
Who knows, maybe they are great now. However, I would use caution grouping them with the Japanese brands.
When was the last time you drove a Kia or Hyundai rental? Prior to the early 2010s I'd agree that they're ho-hum at best, but over the past 10 years they've been building solid products. I would absolutely pick a Telluride or Palisade over a Pilot or Highlander, and the Optima and Sonata over everything not named Accord.
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1. Kia isn't just Korean, like Hyundai. Kia is a subsidiary of Hyundai Motor Group. Their platform, engines, etc. are all shared across both brands.
2. When was the last time you drove a Kia or Hyundai rental?
3. Prior to the early 2010s I'd agree that they're ho-hum at best, but over the past 10 years they've been building solid products..
2. It probably was about 9 years ago. One time it was a Hyundai mid-sized sedan. It looked fine, but it was slow and the suspension was boat-like (felt/drove like an old Crown Victoria or Caddy from the 80's) .
3. Yeah, I had friends and relatives that bought new Hyundais back-in-the-day . Complaints and horror-stories were common. Good to know they are better now, thanks.
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1. Well, that explains a lot actually.
2. It probably was about 9 years ago. One time it was a Hyundai mid-sized sedan. It looked fine, but it was slow and the suspension was boat-like (felt/drove like an old Crown Victoria or Caddy from the 80's) .
3. Yeah, I had friends and relatives that bought new Hyundais back-in-the-day . Complaints and horror-stories were common. Good to know they are better now, thanks.
2. It probably was about 9 years ago. One time it was a Hyundai mid-sized sedan. It looked fine, but it was slow and the suspension was boat-like (felt/drove like an old Crown Victoria or Caddy from the 80's) .
3. Yeah, I had friends and relatives that bought new Hyundais back-in-the-day . Complaints and horror-stories were common. Good to know they are better now, thanks.
I have an odd view on Kia/Hyundai. They're pretty damn reliable, but boring... Basically, a cheaper Toyota.
We had a 2007 Kia Sportage that I loved dearly, very reliable for the most part. It had a weak 2.0 I4 making about 140 hp but it woke up with an intake and 93 octane. Very nice heavy steering but not as good as Honda.
I also had a 2011 Kia Optima. Now while this car was better, in certain areas, it felt cheaper and the steering wasn't as good as the old Sportage. The Optima also burned oil so badly that black gel would come out of the exhaust pipe.
Other than that, it was super reliable... I'm sure it'll last a long time as long as someone keeps topping the oil every week or so.
My only complaint was that I could never love that car. It felt very generic compared to an Accord or Camry though.
Regardless, I have always been a Korean car fan, I'd recommend it to anyone, but I just like the general feel of Hondas more.
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You mentioned the Stinger and that you and your wife thought talked about it. In terms of reliability now and days what’s your opinion when it comes to reliability Acura vs. Kia? I know a lot of people rave about the Stinger yet I hardly see one on the road. So I have decided to put the Stinger on the list along with the TLX.
Here's a long term review of the Stinger.
https://www.automobilemag.com/news/2...eview-wrap-up/
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#239
Three Wheelin'
I read through these chats and honestly it's like this. Either you feeling the car or not, but don't create a story for yourself to justify why you don't like the car or why Acura missed or whatever. Half you MoFo's will buy one at some point talking all this crap lol. I never thought I'd own a 4G. I was driving my 01 TL with 70k miles and got the 4G as a loaner and was like "yuck" I'll never buy this, but guess what. 7 years after it came out I drove one and was like ok Nice luxury premium entry blah blah blah SHAWD 2012 and I was like wow. What a fun car to drive. Even though I have Bimmer money I'm good with what I love and that's Acura. So I'll skip totally on the 1G TLX Sure they aren't perfect and I don't want to be in a struggle on the highway with a fucking Optima LMAO, but bottom line love what you drive and leave the nay sayers be. 355 HP sounds good to me, but I'm more worried about low speed handling, interstate throttle response and do I look good in this bitch. All that other bullshit is for the birds. I've driven a 2018 Lexus IS350, some of their interior plastic as hell, cheap material. BMW always got blown tail lights or you gotta overpay by 15k to get a desirable trim level for resale value when you want to sell or trade so you in the hole unless you put 30% down at purchase, and KIA, Hyundai, etc is still crap. It's just dressed up and got yall fooled. Genesis G70 hot though lol. Haven't driven yet but I will soon. That TLX is gonna look gorgeous in person. It'll sell and we passed on a 2020 MDX for 28k OTD with 9 miles on it sitting on the showroom floor just because I know the next MDX is gonna be fire too. I'm done, yall get back to tuning numbers and dyno WHP stats lol.
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