MSZ

That means there is a big enough market there for the brand. China only has CDX and RDX in their current lineup.

F23A4

https://acuranews.com/en-US/releases...new-generation

….and there you have it folks.

Legend2TL

I was happily wrong on Integra name returning but that’s good.

someguy11

Love this announcement so much. Let's hope for less like this...

and more like this...


I'll tell you what... and I said this back in the 1G forum... I love the revival of the nostalgic and superior naming convention. Let's hope they do right by it. As long as I'm pie in the sky dreaming about this, I'll repeat what I said a couple weeks ago that I would be kicking the doors down to be first in line if they somehow offer this as a convertible.

pyrodan007

^ Hopefully you're right, but I have a feeling they're lining up the marketing material just like the Type-S. I hope they now see people are not dumb (minus the ones who actually paid adm).

jhb31

Is the Legend next? At least with the integra their is a chance at a coupe. Acura is about the only one out there without that offering.

Nexx

Ikeda said they would consider it but it would have to be able to carry the name properly. I am guessing it will be Acura's first large EV sedan.

jhb31

I wonder how the millions of people that don't have a garage and park on the street are going feel about buying EV vehicles and having to spend 20 mins to an hour charging them on the way to work or home. They need to solve that problem of charging time to make it reasonable.
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04WDPSeDaN

iTrader: (1)

Would be nice!

fiatlux

I have a number of friends who don’t have access to chargers at home but they manage to make it work. They say they just charge it on the weekend when they go grocery shopping. Of course, that does mean you need to live somewhere that has an abundant amount of chargers, but it seems like in metro areas that’s feasible.

mike03a3

The EV manufacturers are now telling owners NOT to charge overnight unattended in a garage and not to charge higher than 80%, both due to risk of fire.

fiatlux

Isn’t that just GM telling Bolt owners? Doesn’t seem it’s a widespread concern.

mike03a3

https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...04/tesla-fire/

BEAR-AvHistory

Think its common sense. Batteries can be safe but they still have a lot of latent energy if something does go wrong. Have a some R/C aircraft with electric motors run by LiPo batteries which can be very exciting when the magic smoke leaks out. I don't leave them unattended while under charge. I also don't leave the two beach buggies with lithium batteries plugged into a charger even though they are pretty safe.

Tony Pac

Another strong month for Acura considering supply issue, especially for the new MDX. The TLX sales numbers are stabilizing.

CheeseyPoofs McNut

I want to meet the one person who bought the RLX!

Tony Pac

TLX: 2,768
IS: 2,436
G70: 996

I am sure the TLX has more sales than A4. But not less than C class and 3 Series.

F23A4

He'll surface in a few years selling it as one of the last RLXs in the US.

Legend2TL

always wonder how some cars can hang around dealerships sometimes for years.

FWIW, the founder of Chick-fil-A wanted the last Taurus off the Ford Atlanta assembly plant in 2006 when it was being discontinued.
The first Chick-fil-A was across the street and many a Ford employees were customers. The last one was destined for Ford, but IIRC Ford gave him the 2nd to last Taurus

a35tl

I'm honestly surprised the sales aren't worse than they are. My local Honda dealer that I pass almost every day has hardly any new Hondas on the lot. They can't get them. It's very odd seeing their parking lot which is normally packed full of cars, being virtually empty. The Ford and Nissan dealerships right down the road from Honda are almost as bad but not quite.

Legend2TL

The parts shortages are branching out beyond the chips, there's a global rubber shortage (related to COVID19 of course). And few weeks ago exec at Magna was saying there's shortages for all sorts of polymers which is affecting their delivers of car subassemblies.

Camaro194

Shopping for a new Accord for a family member and just about every dealer has only 4-6 on the lot. One is charging $2,500 over MSRP, another is $1,200 over MSRP, and everyone else is at MSRP.

CheeseyPoofs McNut

We bought a new Honda Pilot a month ago - they had about 10 new ones on the lot (luckily for us) so we were able to negotiate some. I bought a new TLX a week ago and they had 7 TLX's on the lot - 2 of which were being sold the day I was in. I got my $2500 loyalty plus another $1,000 off so I was pretty happy. We were at the Mazda dealer before the Honda and they had three CX9's on the lot and flat out refused to come off MSRP.

It's an odd time to buy a new car - you can get a more than fair amount for a trade or outright sale of your used car. But the dealer has more leverage than we've seen in our lifetime.

Tony Pac

With all the restrictions, Acura is doing pretty well. Acura will hit 160-170K units for the year

F23A4

Definitely swimming in uncharted waters these days. Never anticipated that we'd be so much in the black on our 20 MDX Tech (after nearly zero down) that we were able flip it to a 22 MDX tech so easily.

CheeseyPoofs McNut

The RDX and MDX are killing it.

Tony Pac

Agreed! I am even happy with the TLX sales numbers. Sedan market is dead. Look at G70 and IS for now. As I said, I am sure the TLX sales numbers beat A4.

vhtran

Do you ever think the A4 shares the customers with A5? I am not so sure if those sell numbers including the Allroad and Sportback. Even if they do, their combined numbers are well over 10K. Let alone Acura has 4 lines up vs Audi has no less than 10.

fiatlux

I'm pretty sure a good chunk of A4 sales get cannibalized by A5SB sales. Back in 2017 Audiworld reported a 50/50 split between SB and Coupe/Convertible sales, so taking half the A5 sales and adding it to the A4 is probably fair.

vhtran

Someone does not seem to understand those two As. If I want an A4 2 doors, I will look into A5. If I want an A5 look with 4 doors I have to check out the SB.
Hey Audi, do you have wagon A4? Audi: check out aisle 5 for the Allroad. 🤣

Pens Fan

Inventory is extremely low- Rallye Acura which is the largest Long Island dealer has 1 ILX, 8 MDX (which includes 4 in transit) and 21 TLX (which includes 7 Type S). Good luck negotiating a discount in this market !!!

fiatlux

Technically it's still called the A4 Allroad (to differentiate it from the new A6 Allroad), and as such it gets included in the A4 numbers.

BEAR-AvHistory

Yeah, the guys are used to the two sedan lineup lineup ILX TLX & forget pricing can cross a number of sedan lines along with Coups & Convertibles in the same or overlapping price ranges in some other brands.

Its hard to make a 1 for 1 comparison. 2 series base price before options runs $35/45 (No M), 3 series $41/56 (No M), 4 series $46/66 (No M), 5 series $54/77 (No M). If you look at the TLX/TLX-S $37,500 to 52,300, it overlaps a lot of the other product lines.

dmski

All brands are struggling to get stock in and with all the hype G70 is getting on this forum and yet it is still WAY behind TLX in sales..... All these keyboard warriors are not pulling out their wallets and buying them. Shocking, not.

jhb31

My local Acura dealer has 25 total new vehicles on their lot and 38 used vehicles. 1 Tiger Eye which has been listed for a week or two. Also 1 total ILX. The next closest dealer has 109 new on their lot. 2 Type S, one being the Tiger Eye as well. Think that color is harder for them to move as they had 4 a couple weeks back and the tiger eye was listed then as well.Just over in Pa the dealer has 29 total new, 1 Type S (white) and over 100 used cars. Inventory is low in general. For perspective the Audi dealer I purchased from has 19 total new vehicles on the lot.Another member on here told me he recently went with the S5 and the wait time is 4 to 6 months. The type S is pretty easy to get relatively speaking.

fiatlux

Clearly you missed the part where everyone is complaining about the dealership network (or lack thereof). It's hard to sell a car when there's no dedicated dealerships, and nobody wants to go buy a car from some jankyass Hyundai dealership.

dmski

[QUOTE=fiatlux;16753226]Clearly you missed the part where everyone is complaining about the dealership network (or lack thereof). It's hard to sell a car when there's no dedicated dealerships, and nobody wants to go buy a car from some jankyass Hyundai dealership.[/QUOTE.

Yeah, so hard, you call or email Genesis and they drop the car right to your house for a test drive. Doesn't get easier than that.

BEAR-AvHistory

Think a number of people here have purchased one with SebringSilver being the most recent. Also think it takes awhile for a spinoff to create its own identity. Expect Honda/Acura, Toyota/Lexus & Nissan/Infiniti all when through the same growth issues.

CheeseyPoofs McNut

Are those cars actually on the lots - or are you going off what they're showing on their website? The reason I ask is - my local dealer shows 22 TLX's but in reality they only have 5 on the lot - the website shows cars they know are coming in (sometime) in an effort to not look bad to consumers who are browsing prior to driving in.

F23A4

Same practice with my Acura store as well; inbound vehicles are detailed on their website.