2021+ Acura TLX & TLX TYPE S Sales Numbers
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Upgrades to make this a lot better would be minimal. Clone the general setup of the TLX2, but with one screen, maybe in this setting a touch screen integrated into the dash, add an E-parking brake, and for God's sake give it an aluminum dead pedal for the A-Spec and you have a winner.
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Audi fixed it for new version out this year, will see what Acura will do for new ILX. These cars exist only for people to say they have one, Acura's price (non-NSX) tops out pretty much at the German's average price. The quality can't exactly match that of an A4 or else why would people upgrade. The new one comes fairly close though.
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+1, the A3 interiors may look cheap, but that's about the only knock they get unlike the ILX, which doesn't have:
- optional AWD
- optional higher performance engines / variants
- a more prestigious and aspirational brand
Given those deficiencies, you'd think Acura would be smarter and offer something competitive for less money (hence their previous Smart Luxury tagline), but instead they went the other way and offered even less car for even less money. Hopefully they'll learn their lesson with the "new compact sedan", but with the way the TLX Type-S turned out, I think we'll see an A4-sized vehicle with the base TLX's engine specs as the Type-S, so they can still say that it's their best performing compact sedan ever
- optional AWD
- optional higher performance engines / variants
- a more prestigious and aspirational brand
Given those deficiencies, you'd think Acura would be smarter and offer something competitive for less money (hence their previous Smart Luxury tagline), but instead they went the other way and offered even less car for even less money. Hopefully they'll learn their lesson with the "new compact sedan", but with the way the TLX Type-S turned out, I think we'll see an A4-sized vehicle with the base TLX's engine specs as the Type-S, so they can still say that it's their best performing compact sedan ever
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No one has brought up that the current Civic going on sale right about now (2022) is 11th gen. The ILX is riding on 9th gen Civic platform that came out 11 years ago. Not 11th...not 10th...9th.
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Ok, that explains why the ILX doesn't have the push-button transmission like the other Acura models.
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American Honda Carefully Manages Supply Issues to Continue Sales Momentum in 2nd Quarter
July 1, 2021- Navigating parts supply issues, Honda brand manages best four-month sales period in company history
- Honda trucks leverage strong inventories as Pilot, Passport, CR-V and HR-V set June sales records
- Honda electrified vehicle sales achieve best-ever first-half sales result
- Acura SUV sales top 10,000 units in June, as strong demand for all-new MDX eclipses supply
- Acura ILX sets new June sales mark with its best month in five years
American Honda
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486,419
+65.7%
Cars
189,356
+54.4%
Trucks
297,063
+73.9%
Total
50,496
+83.9%
Cars
14,615
+114%
Trucks
35,881
+73.9%
Total
435,923
+63.9%
Cars
174,741
+50.9%
Trucks
261,182
+73.9%
American Honda
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153,122
+33.4%
Cars
61,154
+33.3%
Trucks
91,968
+33.5%
Total
15,884
+31.6%
Cars
5,169
+92.6%
Trucks
10,715
+14.1%
Total
137,238
+33.6%
Cars
55,985
+29.6%
Trucks
81,253
+36.6%
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BRAND REPORT
Sales Highlights
Based on strong product inventories, Honda completed the best four-month sales run in its history, including a new 2nd quarter sales record. Fueled primarily by record truck sales, cars also contributed with Civic and Accord completing a strong 2nd quarter, combining for over 53,000 sales in June.
- Honda set a new June record on sales of 137,238 units.
- Pilot, Passport, CR-V and HR-V set new June records, pushing total Honda truck sales over 81,000 units for the month.
- Sales of Honda electrified vehicles set a new first half sales mark as Insight hybrid sedan nearly matched its best June sales.
- Ahead of the sales impact of the all-new 2022 model which began arriving at dealerships late in the month, Civic topped 32,000 sales in June.
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BRAND REPORT
Sales Highlights
Acura completed a strong 2nd quarter with June sales exceeding 15,000 even as inventories tighten as a result of strong demand and parts supply issues.
- Acura’s gateway sport sedan, ILX, set a new June record as sales reached 2,093 units – its best result in five years, while early sales from the introduction of the TLX Type S pushed TLX sales over 3,000 units for the month.
- Acura SUV sales continued momentum, topping 10,000 deliveries in June with the all-new 2022 MDX eclipsing supply as the model continues to ramp up production, and RDX posting sales of over 5,000 units.
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Acura ILX sets new June sales mark with its best month in five years
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Acura is on the right track! TLX sales are improving. MDX and RDX are doing well as expected. And of course, the best is ILX, the most profitable vehicle in Acura's lineup lol!
That said, well done Acura. Keep up the great work, replace the ILX and the 2K units+ sales will be guaranteed every month. Wit the the Type S of TLX and MDX, I am confident, Acura will hit their target of 200K units per year as of 2022.
On another notes, Lexus NX has to be the best vehicle for Lexus. After almost a decade and still pushing 5-6K units per month. Very impressive!
That said, well done Acura. Keep up the great work, replace the ILX and the 2K units+ sales will be guaranteed every month. Wit the the Type S of TLX and MDX, I am confident, Acura will hit their target of 200K units per year as of 2022.
On another notes, Lexus NX has to be the best vehicle for Lexus. After almost a decade and still pushing 5-6K units per month. Very impressive!
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Im not sure there's any incentive to replace the ILX. Seems to be the B13 Sentra for the brand.
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Im not sure there's any incentive to replace the ILX. Seems to be the B13 Sentra for the brand.
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As good as the sales of the ILX are -the new model will likely be introduced in early 2022 as a 2023 model.
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Im not sure there's any incentive to replace the ILX. Seems to be the B13 Sentra for the brand.
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The numbers from Germany aren't in yet, but so far for Q2 data...
Acura TLX: 9,271
Lexus IS: 7,365
Infiniti Q50: 4,179
Genesis G70: 2,925
Volvo S60: 2,754
...it's funny how all the naysayers claiming the TLX is a "poor seller" have gone quiet now.
Acura TLX: 9,271
Lexus IS: 7,365
Infiniti Q50: 4,179
Genesis G70: 2,925
Volvo S60: 2,754
...it's funny how all the naysayers claiming the TLX is a "poor seller" have gone quiet now.
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"Inventory problem" oh no, Acura gives discounts, oh no, the interest rate is low. Oh wait. May be the TLX is a good car at that price range? It may not be the rocket or the most luxurious car out there. but at the sticker price and of course with some discounts. It's a good deal.
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Exact figures
2004 (77,895) units sold
2005 (78,218) units sold
2006 (71,348) units sold
2007 (58,545) units sold
2008 (46,766) units sold
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Wow 78K! I thought it was around 70K. But without defending Acura or TLX. The sedan market was so hot back then. Now it's kinda sad to see the sedans are dying. Everyone wants a SUV. I personally think a sedan is so much fun to drive.
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I think the 3G TL and 2G TLX sell in completely different marketplaces each within two disparate economic conditions. That said and no matter how many aspersions can be fabricated against it, the TLX is selling at a fantastic clip thus far.
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Why would we keep barking? The TLX did sell poorly in Q1. The facts have changed, so there's no reason to argue against it. That would be delusional. Almost like thinking a 4,150lb 355HP car was going to be a "rocket ship" ...
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2015 was the best year since 2008 & they sold 47,080cars. Sales then dropped back to its last high the next year with 37,156 units sold. Its dropped 3,000/4,000 units a year since.
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BMW 3 series YTD through June 2021 23,774 units about 3,900 a month for 6 months - TLX 15,412 sold for the same period - about 2,600 a month for 6 months.
BMW 4 series YTD through June 2021 12,533* units about 2,000 a month for 6 months.
*NOTE this exceeds the full 2020 year of 12,357 units. The 4 series numbers are only Coupes. Production is now ramping up as the Convertible is now being produced.
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At the moment, as expected BMW 3 series is the number one seller in the segment followed by the TLX. C300 numbers aren’t out yet so I assume it’s:
3series
C300
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There is a thread here last year where someone said "you heard it here first. the TLX will be a flop". SMH. With the presence the car has once you see it in person, it is a hard no if you went with the intent to buy. It's Acura, a great all-around car with some cache to make you feel good about the machine your in.
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The 3rd gen TL came out 17 years ago. Name ANY sedan that is selling as well now compared to 15-20 years ago. I'll wait.
The 3-series is outselling the entire class, doesn't mean the TLX is a sales failure. In fact, the TLX outsold the Audi A4/S4 in Q2 and the jury's still out vs the Mercedes C-class (numbers not in yet).
The 3-series is outselling the entire class, doesn't mean the TLX is a sales failure. In fact, the TLX outsold the Audi A4/S4 in Q2 and the jury's still out vs the Mercedes C-class (numbers not in yet).
That said, BMW was always the leader and no matter what we say 3 Series is the King of the Jungle. When Acura had the 3rd Gen which was the best selling TL in Acura's history, still it did not beat the 3 series in terms of sales numbers. But It's amazing to see the new TLX sales numbers.
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Well, you know there are people that will make up things just to create negative publicity. You have to simply ignore and leave them alone. The reason, I created this thread was that the previous thread for sales number was something like "Poor sales".
That said, BMW was always the leader and no matter what we say 3 Series is the King of the Jungle. When Acura had the 3rd Gen which was the best selling TL in Acura's history, still it did not beat the 3 series in terms of sales numbers. But It's amazing to see the new TLX sales numbers.
That said, BMW was always the leader and no matter what we say 3 Series is the King of the Jungle. When Acura had the 3rd Gen which was the best selling TL in Acura's history, still it did not beat the 3 series in terms of sales numbers. But It's amazing to see the new TLX sales numbers.
At the time the BMW coupes & convertibles were all 3 series. For marketing reasons part way through 2015 they went odds & evens numbering with evens being the 2 door cars. The dumb ass stupid 5 door "coupes" were not yet being produced.
The TL was always a strong competitor in the group which was bigger than it is now & always near the top in monthly sales.
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The 3rd gen TL came out 17 years ago. Name ANY sedan that is selling as well now compared to 15-20 years ago. I'll wait.
The 3-series is outselling the entire class, doesn't mean the TLX is a sales failure. In fact, the TLX outsold the Audi A4/S4 in Q2 and the jury's still out vs the Mercedes C-class (numbers not in yet).
The 3-series is outselling the entire class, doesn't mean the TLX is a sales failure. In fact, the TLX outsold the Audi A4/S4 in Q2 and the jury's still out vs the Mercedes C-class (numbers not in yet).
Well, you know there are people that will make up things just to create negative publicity. You have to simply ignore and leave them alone. The reason, I created this thread was that the previous thread for sales number was something like "Poor sales".
That said, BMW was always the leader and no matter what we say 3 Series is the King of the Jungle. When Acura had the 3rd Gen which was the best selling TL in Acura's history, still it did not beat the 3 series in terms of sales numbers. But It's amazing to see the new TLX sales numbers.
That said, BMW was always the leader and no matter what we say 3 Series is the King of the Jungle. When Acura had the 3rd Gen which was the best selling TL in Acura's history, still it did not beat the 3 series in terms of sales numbers. But It's amazing to see the new TLX sales numbers.
Comical that facts hurt some feelings. You two act like the savor of Acura and had a hand in their sales numbers.. Tony, you posted that if Acura wasn't doing well in sales that they would have closed their doors. Well, did they close their doors after their failures that followed after the success of the 3rd gen TL? Let's be honest here, they didn't make anything spectacular from 2009-2017. All bread and butter economy vehicles with bland performance and styling. The better question to the both of you loyal Acura members, when you trading in the civic and that 4th gen TL for the TLX? I'll wait.
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Hyundai/Kia have certainly come a long way, but even VW (which has the same German engineering as BMW/Mercedes/Audi) couldn't convince people to buy the W8 or Phaeton, and killed the Touareg to replace it with the borderline insulting "Americanized" Atlas. Even Acura still has issues with brand perception (see: RLX) despite selling the NSX for two decades.
My theory on the ILX? Superficial appeal. It looks great on the outside. On the inside, it is just barely upscale enough to separate it from a Civic. You can get a 10 speaker ELS sound system in it, which by all accounts mean that the sound system in it can be made to be better than ANY Civic. The average car buyer will not know going in that it's an older gen Civic underneath, and if they do some homework and DO know, they're not going to care. Finally, the price point is very enticing. I think many who buy one feel a thrill of knowing they got a "luxury" brand car brand new for a great deal. Also - it's reliable. Frankly, those high buyer's remorse claims surprise me - I wonder if those numbers are still high currently.
Imho the design of every current Acura model is an improvement compared to the prior gen, but the ILX is easily the same-gen best face-lifts I've ever seen from Honda/Acura (another is 7G Accord). The original TLX was sleek but boring and the first face-lift was typical Honda/Acura "meh" (more chrome/gaudy wheels designs/new headlamp and taillamp lenses that don't really look better, etc.), and the execution was horrendous. When first seeing the current iteration (A-Spec) at a dealer I was stunned. My immediate thought was that it was an all-new car...until I looked inside. Externally it does not look like a 10-year old car at all. Yes it is a somewhat superficial car, but a 10-year Acura/Honda is still an Acura/Honda and comes with the same solid build quality/engineering.
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Comical that facts hurt some feelings. You two act like the savor of Acura and had a hand in their sales numbers.. Tony, you posted that if Acura wasn't doing well in sales that they would have closed their doors. Well, did they close their doors after their failures that followed after the success of the 3rd gen TL? Let's be honest here, they didn't make anything spectacular from 2009-2017. All bread and butter economy vehicles with bland performance and styling. The better question to the both of you loyal Acura members, when you trading in the civic and that 4th gen TL for the TLX? I'll wait.
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Just to let you know, I am not here to show off, you don't know about what other cars I have. Let's leave it to that. I will let you shine with your X3.
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with all respect that I have for you, please go enjoy your BMW
I will let you know when I get my next my car. And I hope you are as active in a BMW forum than here. Oh let me ask you is there a BMW forum?
Just to let you know, I am not here to show off, you don't know about what other cars I have. Let's leave it to that. I will let you shine with your X3.
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Just to let you know, I am not here to show off, you don't know about what other cars I have. Let's leave it to that. I will let you shine with your X3.
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And that's your problem. You want to bring in what I own and acting like I'm gods gift here because I own two BMW's and an Acura but never once mentioned that my BMW is better than anything Acura makes or better than anything anyone on this forum owns. So get that issue out of your head, because you're clearly your own problem around here. Don't think nobody catches your antagonistic comments towards others because they don't line up with your way of thinking. I personally DON'T care what else you may or may not own as it's not part of my issue with you or the discussion here. Time to grow up Tony (Baktash), if you can't handle a conversation then log off.
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I dont think I've cruised through Bimmerpost more than three times in the past 10 years....and it's usually because I've come across a used 335i for a decent price.