2021+ Acura TLX & TLX TYPE S Sales Numbers
07-03-2021, 12:51 AM
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these are the ones i like
some have more traffic than others as they are model specific.
bmw 3/4 series
https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/fo...play.php?f=650
bmw z4
https://g29.bimmerpost.com/forums/fo...play.php?f=709
bmw m4
https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/fo...play.php?f=701
some have more traffic than others as they are model specific.
bmw 3/4 series
https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/fo...play.php?f=650
bmw z4
https://g29.bimmerpost.com/forums/fo...play.php?f=709
bmw m4
https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/fo...play.php?f=701
08-03-2021, 12:27 PM
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It's a double-edged sword, because the better the current ILX does, the more likely it is for Acura to delay the next gen and maybe redeploy resources to other cars that need it, like the RDX.
08-03-2021, 02:18 PM
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gotta wonder if all the ILX tooling has be totally depreciated
08-03-2021, 11:26 PM
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08-03-2021, 11:55 PM
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08-04-2021, 06:49 AM
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The RDX is in a much more competitive and lucrative space. Dollar for dollar investments into the RDX will likely have better ROI than the ILX. At this point the unit economics of the ILX must be incredibly profitable because all the tooling and R&D costs have probably been amortized away. Even if they invested hundreds of millions (if not billions) into an all-new ILX, how many more do we expect them to sell? 3000 units a month instead of 1500? I’m not sure that modest incremental gain is worth the cost, not until the current ILX stops moving off the lots at least.
While that's good for Acura, it gives them less incentive to develop a new one at this time.
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08-04-2021, 07:02 AM
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Good point. The ILX is on it's 9th year, using 2009-era infotainment screens, based on the Civic from three generations ago, offers only one powertrain, and on it's 2nd refresh... yet somehow in the 2nd quarter of 2021 it's outselling the Audi A3/S3/RS3 sedan/sportback, BMW 2-series coupe/'gran coupe', the Mercedes A-class sedan/hatch and CLA, and the Cadillac CT4.
While that's good for Acura, it gives them less incentive to develop a new one at this time.
While that's good for Acura, it gives them less incentive to develop a new one at this time.
08-04-2021, 08:27 AM
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Why not some simple rebadging of the newer Civic? They could do some parts bin swaps from other Acura cars. GM has been riding that forever with the Tahoe/Suburban's Caddy & GMC versions. FORD the same with its larger SUV's as Lincolns. They could run it till the EV takes over.
08-04-2021, 08:37 AM
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ILX is an anomaly, let's leave it at that.
I'm surprised TLX sales numbers took a slight hit. With the release of the Type-S, I would think it would have had a slight uptick. Still, one month is simply one month. It could get better next. I'm surprised the IS has been doing as well as it has. I still rarely see them around while it's now selling about as well as the TLX, and I see TLXs almost daily driving around. I guess it's just the area.
08-04-2021, 08:58 AM
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Eh, it just seems like sales are "normalizing" for the MDX after the surge from a brand new model release, not to mention the fact that those initial months had leftover 3G MDXs that were on fire sale. Supplies for the RDX are equally as low, but its sales numbers continue to remain strong.
08-04-2021, 08:58 AM
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Eh, it just seems like sales are "normalizing" for the MDX after the surge from a brand new model release, not to mention the fact that those initial months had leftover 3G MDXs that were on fire sale. Supplies for the RDX are equally as low, but its sales numbers continue to remain strong.
ILX is an anomaly, let's leave it at that.
I'm surprised TLX sales numbers took a slight hit. With the release of the Type-S, I would think it would have had a slight uptick. Still, one month is simply one month. It could get better next. I'm surprised the IS has been doing as well as it has. I still rarely see them around while it's now selling about as well as the TLX, and I see TLXs almost daily driving around. I guess it's just the area.
ILX is an anomaly, let's leave it at that.
I'm surprised TLX sales numbers took a slight hit. With the release of the Type-S, I would think it would have had a slight uptick. Still, one month is simply one month. It could get better next. I'm surprised the IS has been doing as well as it has. I still rarely see them around while it's now selling about as well as the TLX, and I see TLXs almost daily driving around. I guess it's just the area.
08-04-2021, 10:10 AM
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Why not some simple rebadging of the newer Civic? They could do some parts bin swaps from other Acura cars. GM has been riding that forever with the Tahoe/Suburban's Caddy & GMC versions. FORD the same with its larger SUV's as Lincolns. They could run it till the EV takes over.
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08-04-2021, 10:45 AM
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My dealer indicated that the brand is looking to fill the ILX’s slot with an ‘Integra’ type sedan. (While I have my doubts, in my 14 years of working with them, they’ve never not called it when it came to upcoming products.). That said, better (…as in I’d prefer) to bolt on a 6MT than to rebadge the Civic into the next coming of the Acura CSX.
08-04-2021, 12:14 PM
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In the land of "look fast than be fast", Camry TRD wins!
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08-04-2021, 12:27 PM
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Yeah, very aggressive looking. They are doing very well here. Audi is the other brand selling a lot of cars near me. They seem to be replacing the 3G TL's that were left. The 4G never caught on here so a lot of 3G's were still in use. The people across the street had one, just sold, but that was all I would see on a regular basis. Trying to remember what they replaced it with, know it was a SUV but did not get a good look. Their son has a Cayenne traded his Boxster.
08-04-2021, 12:40 PM
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For that matter I've seen more Avalon TRDs (2) than TLXs. Had to do a double-take to make sure they weren't Camry TRDs because I expected nobody to actually buy them.
08-04-2021, 01:08 PM
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My Dad had an Avalon in the 90's, when he was in his 80's. If there had been a TRD version then, he would have been all over it. He loved a sporty car that only looked sporty. The cushier the ride the better, but the car had to at least look youthful.
08-04-2021, 01:20 PM
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I certainly hope not. The RDX is still relatively close the the TLX2.0 and MDX4.0. Could use more power though, but since the 2.0T in the TLX is pretty much the same, I doubt it.
08-04-2021, 02:01 PM
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My dealer indicated that the brand is looking to fill the ILX’s slot with an ‘Integra’ type sedan. (While I have my doubts, in my 14 years of working with them, they’ve never not called it when it came to upcoming products.). That said, better (…as in I’d prefer) to bolt on a 6MT than to rebadge the Civic into the next coming of the Acura CSX.
The Integra we donated at 240k miles to charity, both girls wish we'd kept it though.
08-04-2021, 03:23 PM
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08-04-2021, 04:59 PM
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Good point. The ILX is on it's 9th year, using 2009-era infotainment screens, based on the Civic from three generations ago, offers only one powertrain, and on it's 2nd refresh... yet somehow in the 2nd quarter of 2021 it's outselling the Audi A3/S3/RS3 sedan/sportback, BMW 2-series coupe/'gran coupe', the Mercedes A-class sedan/hatch and CLA, and the Cadillac CT4.
While that's good for Acura, it gives them less incentive to develop a new one at this time.
While that's good for Acura, it gives them less incentive to develop a new one at this time.
I don't see many S3's in general. Saw an S4 yesterday and don't see them all that often either. Very nice car visually, had to step into it a bit on a back road to see what it was as they were moving. If the S4 had a coupe I may have gone that way.
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08-04-2021, 05:19 PM
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The price difference for an S3 vs a ILX is huge. So is the performance though. I don't see them as competing cars. Much less the RS3.
I don't see many S3's in general. Saw an S4 yesterday and don't see them all that often either. Very nice car visually, had to step into it a bit on a back road to see what it was as they were moving. If the S4 had a coupe I may have gone that way.
I don't see many S3's in general. Saw an S4 yesterday and don't see them all that often either. Very nice car visually, had to step into it a bit on a back road to see what it was as they were moving. If the S4 had a coupe I may have gone that way.
08-04-2021, 05:29 PM
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Sounds cool, but somehow I can't see Acura going for a Integra replacement. I have a soft spot for 1G Integra's, wife and I basically met over her buying a LS 5 door 5MT (also taught her to drive MT) in 1986 when they came out, long story but 35 years and two daughters later she's still the love of my life. The Integra we donated at 240k miles to charity, both girls wish we'd kept it though.
The Integra we donated at 240k miles to charity, both girls wish we'd kept it though.
08-05-2021, 06:16 AM
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However, your post made me wonder if there could be an ILX that I would buy. Take your 6MT and add a turbo and maybe AWD. Call it an ILX Type R, but less flamboyant and obnoxious looking Civic Type R. Compete with the S3. Heck it's probably small enough to offer as a convertible too. You know, put it in a class with M240i xDrive. That would be a super fun car that could be an S2000 reincarnate. That might be a shut up and take my money type car for me.
08-05-2021, 06:33 AM
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I liked your previous post about slapping a6MT on an ILX Aspec. That could be a really fun car to drive. I know it would look good, because there is a white ILX Aspec around town here that I have to admire whenever I see it. Then again, I don't think I could buy an ILX. Too small, too geared toward young people, too much like badged Civic.
However, your post made me wonder if there could be an ILX that I would buy. Take your 6MT and add a turbo and maybe AWD. Call it an ILX Type R, but less flamboyant and obnoxious looking Civic Type R. Compete with the S3. Heck it's probably small enough to offer as a convertible too. You know, put it in a class with M240i xDrive. That would be a super fun car that could be an S2000 reincarnate. That might be a shut up and take my money type car for me.
However, your post made me wonder if there could be an ILX that I would buy. Take your 6MT and add a turbo and maybe AWD. Call it an ILX Type R, but less flamboyant and obnoxious looking Civic Type R. Compete with the S3. Heck it's probably small enough to offer as a convertible too. You know, put it in a class with M240i xDrive. That would be a super fun car that could be an S2000 reincarnate. That might be a shut up and take my money type car for me.
My concern with a turbo AWD version is weight; the new generation of Acura’s are really becoming chunky. The new Type S is a prime example. If it weighed about 400lbs less, acceleration wouldn’t be so mediocre and handling potentially sublime. (My 22 MDX SH-AWD is another example, where my old 20 version was a little lighter on its feet.)
08-05-2021, 07:57 AM
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I liked your previous post about slapping a6MT on an ILX Aspec. That could be a really fun car to drive. I know it would look good, because there is a white ILX Aspec around town here that I have to admire whenever I see it. Then again, I don't think I could buy an ILX. Too small, too geared toward young people, too much like badged Civic.
However, your post made me wonder if there could be an ILX that I would buy. Take your 6MT and add a turbo and maybe AWD. Call it an ILX Type R, but less flamboyant and obnoxious looking Civic Type R. Compete with the S3. Heck it's probably small enough to offer as a convertible too. You know, put it in a class with M240i xDrive. That would be a super fun car that could be an S2000 reincarnate. That might be a shut up and take my money type car for me.
However, your post made me wonder if there could be an ILX that I would buy. Take your 6MT and add a turbo and maybe AWD. Call it an ILX Type R, but less flamboyant and obnoxious looking Civic Type R. Compete with the S3. Heck it's probably small enough to offer as a convertible too. You know, put it in a class with M240i xDrive. That would be a super fun car that could be an S2000 reincarnate. That might be a shut up and take my money type car for me.
I said this earlier, I wish they would stick the 2.0T from the TLX/RDX in the new Civic Si. It won't have the same track focused bits, nor the styling, so that justifies it costing less. It would then be the "car to have" for people looking to do modifications, and people like me, who couldn't care less how "track ready" a car is.
If they instead did this to the ILX basing it off the 11G Civic, priced it around mid-$30k & kept the styling tasteful ... that thing would most likely be parked in my driveway.
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08-05-2021, 09:41 AM
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Sounds cool, but somehow I can't see Acura going for a Integra replacement. I have a soft spot for 1G Integra's, wife and I basically met over her buying a LS 5 door 5MT (also taught her to drive MT) in 1986 when they came out, long story but 35 years and two daughters later she's still the love of my life. The Integra we donated at 240k miles to charity, both girls wish we'd kept it though.
The Integra we donated at 240k miles to charity, both girls wish we'd kept it though.
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08-05-2021, 10:09 PM
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This is kind of a weird question but has Acura ever released their Kuwait sales number. Considering that they are exporting new cars to their only dealership in Kuwait.
2nd gen TLX in Kuwait.
2nd gen TLX in Kuwait.
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08-06-2021, 07:51 AM
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08-06-2021, 08:22 AM
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I went to two dealers in Montreal and they don't even have a MDX inside the showroom. Only outside for test drives.
Montreal is a very small market, I am sure Toronto and other big cities have even less inventory. What I did notice, there are a lot of 2018-2019 CPO A-SPECS for sale in my region. Only issue is they are so expensive. 30-40K KM and they are priced at $50K (CAD).
Montreal is a very small market, I am sure Toronto and other big cities have even less inventory. What I did notice, there are a lot of 2018-2019 CPO A-SPECS for sale in my region. Only issue is they are so expensive. 30-40K KM and they are priced at $50K (CAD).
08-06-2021, 10:29 AM
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I went to two dealers in Montreal and they don't even have a MDX inside the showroom. Only outside for test drives.
Montreal is a very small market, I am sure Toronto and other big cities have even less inventory. What I did notice, there are a lot of 2018-2019 CPO A-SPECS for sale in my region. Only issue is they are so expensive. 30-40K KM and they are priced at $50K (CAD).
Montreal is a very small market, I am sure Toronto and other big cities have even less inventory. What I did notice, there are a lot of 2018-2019 CPO A-SPECS for sale in my region. Only issue is they are so expensive. 30-40K KM and they are priced at $50K (CAD).
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