Marco L

I just went to Maple Acura in Ontario and they gave me the pricing on the 18 TLX which seems incredibly crazy to me. I priced out a 4 cyl Tech A-spec package on a 4 yr lease with 24k KM and they want $4100 on delivery and Monthly payments are $640/month tax included!! I don't know about you guys but this seems crazy to me considering what else I can buy with $640 and $4k on delivery. Has anyone else priced the car out in Canada if so what price did you receive?

Side note i didn't know I could get the 4cyl with Aspec package. They are also charging $500 for white car and the Red interior will probably be an extra charge but they don't know when they will be getting them in.

pyrodan007

Thought Aspec was V6 only territory. Seems they are making up prices for now due to popularity. If they are going the German route of $$$ per option, give me the performance too please. Acura is playing a dangerous game now since value is quickly going away. 640 per month for a 4 cyl non turbo is expensive. I'm paying 750 per month for my loaded V6, seems like money wasted.

spoiler900

Correct Aspec is only V6 so something is wrong with your quote I would check what pkg its for first

Sloppy305

V4 a-spec? Something is wrong with your dealer...and most likely your quote.

Shop around.

MSZ

A Spec is available for 4 cylinder models in Canada, Honda did mention that in their press release:

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dmski

Yes, Canada is getting 4cyl Aspec. I got a quote fot the V6 Tech AWD Aspec and they want high six hundreds' with zero down. Not sure what Acura is thinking. Looks like they are getting Greedy already. SMFH. For almost seven hundred a month there are so much better options out there which blow away the TLX. Not paying that money for crappy interior and power train that does not deliver.

MTD

What was the actual price of the car? Whats the interest rate? Buyout? Without all the details of the deal, its hard to come to any conclusions.

pyrodan007

So if somebody spends more money on a V6 Aspec, it'll look exactly the same as a I4 model minus SH-AWD logo on the back? Just a cash grab, similar to Lexus with F-sport. Too bad, was a nice way for owners to show they had a V6.

No chance I can get interesting rebates for the next few months. Can probably get more with the A4 (saw comments about 6% being possible).

Sloppy305

Thank you for confirming about the V4 s-spec.
It will be interesting to see how US dealers approach this:
1)do they try to bump up sales with the strategy they have been pushing the last couple of months? 4,5 even 7 thousand off MSRP
2)do they bet on the new looks and features for the 18 models to carry them and sell even at a considerable higher cost than the 17 models

My dealer in Miami said last week of May or first week of June for the first 18s to arrive. No pricing has been disclosed at all...even from a trusted source. Curious to see what they do.

Marco L

MSRP on I4,tech A-spec is $42k Canadian. Interest is 2.9% but i can get loyalty rate of 1.9%. I believe buyout was 19k. I should have snapped a pic of the price list directly from Acura.

He also mentioned the US was getting a single exhaust while Canada was getting duel exhaust? Doesn't seem right to me but he seemed to know his stuff, he said he had just gotten back from a 4 day course from acura on the TLX.

BEAR-AvHistory

You also need to convert Canadian $ to US $'s. That much money in USD would buy a 340/440

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

This is highly debatable man. Some people DO just want the a-spec pkg without getting a V6. It's about giving people an option...something that Acura isn't known for.

I don't know about the single exhaust part man...I don't think that's the case.

I think the dealer is just putting a mark up since the A-spec if completely brand new. I'd wait a few months or even try a different dealership. It sounds like that dealership is trying to rip you off...or just pay cash.

When I go to Acura.ca and build a TLX Tech which is at CAD$41.5k, the lease payment after $3k down for 4 years is CAD$475 tax included. That's with the ongoing manufacturer rebate of CAD$79/month. If the A-spec is $42k, there's no way that the monthly lease payment goes to $640, even if it doesn't have any rebate. $640 sounds like $100 too much IMO. In fact, I think $3k down, $500/month tax in, for 48 months sounds about right. $640/month you might as well get something else.

Mr. ShawnJ007

All of this $X Deposit, $X/Month for X months non-sense allows the dealerships to cook your sale without you knowing whats in it. What was the sale price? Add on total? Discounts and incentives total? Subtotal? Interest rate? Term? Grand Total? Monthly Rate?

That's how i recommend you look at an offer. I've manged IT for several dealerships and have gotten a behind the scenes look at how they operate. Some promotions (ie. $X Cash back) actually increase the interest rate, so although they give you lets say $2500 upfront, you end up paying much more in interest.

Does anyone have the actual Canadian MSRP and invoice pricing for all of the trims? And please, if anyone is going to post the offer they received, please include as much detail as possible to help us keep the wool well below our eyes.

TIA

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

I think the OP said the actual selling price of the 2018 TLX I4 A-spec is CAD$42k.

MTD

So I went by my dealer today and they had 2 3.5s and 2 2.4s, all A-Specs.

Here in Canada, we seem to have a pretty nice mix of different models. All of our 3.5s are AWD and we can get an Elite A-Spec in both the 2.4 and the 3.5. I looks like the A-spec is basically offered across the board on both the Tech and Elite models.

$500 colour charge on the Bellanova White Pearl now, the blue there is no charge for.

ZipSpeed

Glad to see the Eilte A-Spec option as that would be the vehicle I would choose. Otherwise I would be forced to choose between the performance bits vs the luxury ones when I want both!

Mr. ShawnJ007

I can confirm that A-Spec is an available add on from the factory for V4 (10.2/7.4/8.9 L/100km City/Hwy/Comb) and V6 (12/8.2/10.3 L/100km). You can add it to the Tech or Elite trims on both.

V4's A-Spec adds sport-tuned suspension dampers, sport-tuned electric power steering, sport-tuned P-AWS, sport-tuned active sound control, 19" dark allow wheels w/ michelin primacy sports, unique front/rear fascia and side skirts, gloss-black real lip spoiler, Alcantara (black) or full red leather interior, metallic style trim accents (interior), red LED accent lighting (interior), A-Spec steering wheel.

V6's A-Spec gets all of the above except of course for the sport-tuned P-AWS, and adds sport-tuned springs, larger rear stabilizer bar, sport-tuned steering gearbox, and Michelin Sport AS/3.

Kense

There are so many better cars that you can get for that price that are better looking, faster and more luxurious. Acura must be run by idiots lol @ a 200 HP 4 cylinder costing that much..

CheeseyPoofs McNut

So who will be the first to drive an A-Spec and report back on how the ZF9 behaves?

Sloppy305

No pics of any of this?

kurtatx

200 HP is unacceptable for a 4 cylinder in the class Acura hopes to live in with that pricing. Unless Acura were to go three models with a mid tier 240ish HP car

MTD

Here in Canada, its still kind of a bargain. A base model BMW 4-banger 3 series starts at $42k for a base model. A loaded Kia Optima is almost $40K here.

The other end of the spectrum, an A4 Technik without any extra packages is $54k. The S-Line and Advanced driver Pack adds another $5k. A loaded A3 is $49K.

Cars arent cheap in Canada lol.

mapleloaf

it's 206 HP and perhaps the judgement of whether it's enough power should be made by the people that drive it. With the 8 speed, this is a quick car when it needs to be, and many of the reviews over the past two years would also attest to this.

pyrodan007

I had one as a loaner for a few days, didn't impress me. DCT felt good, but when flooring the pedal, it was just missing that feeling of 'go'. At 40k+, it didn't excite me enough. That's why I'm a bit surprised the 4 cyl is getting the Aspec treatment in Canada, not really a sporty-ish car

TacoBello

I'm guessing it's the inherent problem with any 4 cylinder, naturally aspirated engine. It makes low torque numbers, even if it makes lots of horsepower. The V6 gives you way more oomph at much lower engine speeds.

That's why I don't understand a car like the Accord Sport. In my mind, the V6 accord feels much more sporty than the I4. Yet the Accord Sport only comes with the I4. Why Honda wouldn't make the faster, more powerful car the Sport model is beyond me.

Mr. ShawnJ007

What kind of gas did the dealership put in our "premium fuel only" based engines? I would bet they skimped out and didn't put premium, much like most people who complain about a lack of responsiveness and uninspiring performance from these epic engines.

CheeseyPoofs McNut

I agree. There are certainly a percentage of shoppers who need to have the performance specs at a certain level before they'll consider a car. There are others like me who take a car for a drive and decide if the car has enough power for them. The I4 TLX won't win any races but that's fine with me as I'm not concerned with that type of behaviour. It does, however, merge into traffic and pass slower traffic with zero problems for me so I'm good. The DCT is super quick and makes for some fun if you want it - if someone needs more power then by all means there are a ton of very nice cars out there at a higer price point that will give you pretty much whatever you want!

The Accord Sport was a great "marketing" move by Honda. It was the best looking Accord IMO, dirt cheap, and attracted the younger value shoppers. If they put a V6 in it they need to adjust the price accordingly and all of a sudden it's no longer the value option. To your point - the Accord has lots of enthusiasts who love the V6 - why not make an A-Spec version for them?

mapleloaf

I seldom have to "floor" the car, so I guess it's just a difference in driving styles and preferences. As for the Aspec in Canada, I've heard that you will be able to get the Elite (advance) trim with the I4, but not the ASPEC.

Kense

The A Spec is supposed to have looks to match performance right, so why would anybody who doesn't care about power buy the Aspec version unless they like looking like posers.

Mr. ShawnJ007

You can get both the Elite and A-SPEC trims on the V4.

Mr. ShawnJ007

The sport-tuned additions are somewhat performance improvements though.

Kense

Totally unacceptable considering it makes a weak amount of torque. If it was putting out at least 250 lb ft then ok, but it needs a turbo for that.

Kense

For the price of the car it's not nearly enough.

pyrodan007

They could have easily tuned the engine software to pump out an extra 5-10hp. Nothing that we'd notice but enough for a sales pitch without lying, "Aspec has both suspension and engine performance upgrades".

BEAR-AvHistory

Yeah, thats really a tough one to answer. A lot here are happy as clams with the I4DCT package & a lot would not touch one with a ten foot pole. A number of different ideas about this.

Not being able to prove a negative we have no idea how many people did not buy one because of the power rating & price. You also have the opinion difference as to what is a comfortable/enjoyable/sporty etc level of engine performance for buyers in the price range.

When a car is showing to be zooming all over the two lane blacktop & launching out of traffic lights does the reality of the car suit the people that the add might attract.

Then you have the collective US on the forum. Some of us are in the MAPLELOAF camp & some in the BEAR camp & some are in the middle when it comes to what is overall performance. Neither of us are all correct or all wrong just from a different spectrum of the auto enthusiast world.

From a pure marketing tool point of view I never think its a good idea to be at the bottom of the list when it comes to advertised power. You don'i IMHO need to be at the top, the 3/4 series never, are but you need to be in the game.

I would be very surprised if on the next go Acuras entry level car was not a 250BHP or so 2T which has become the defacto standard power plant of the near lux cars.

TacoBello

I agree with your assessment. But, there are people like myself who would love the sport in V6 form. I'm guessing I'm part of a small subset... Too small of a subset for Honda to care. I like absolutely everything about the Accord Sport and that it's available with a 6MT, but my only gripe is the engine. Not that it's a bad engine, but I dunno, at this point in my life, I'm kind of done with I4s... I grew up on them and after having the pleasure of V6 torque, I have a hard time going back. I also don't like to have to rev the snot out of the engine to get some decent power/speed out of it.

I had a civic back in the day with the coveted B16 engine... No idea why it was so coveted. The complete and utter lack of torque was infuriating. I had to rev that thing to the moon to get it going, which also made everyone on the roads around me think I was trying to race them. That car was slow as balls and I never tried racing anybody

Granted, the K24 in the accord is much bigger, but the car is also much heavier than that '99 Civic SiR I had.

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

IMO the Canadian trims are better than the American ones. Also nice to see Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3. These are more sporty than the MXM4 found in the American A-spec model.

lol cars in Canada are expensive. The TLX I4 A-spec already has the tech pkg included for CAD$42k. Here in Canada, CAD$42k gets you a base BMW 320i with 180hp. Want the equivalent of A-spec on the 320i, like the Sport line? add $5k please. Yup. Want a different color? You will be hitting CAD$50k before even adding any option. Once you start adding real leather seats and loading the car up, you end up at over CAD$60k for a 180hp 4-banger 3 series.

It's definitely nice to have a 4-banger Accord Sport. It might not be as fast as the Accord V6, but it can still do 0-60mph in mid 6's and covering the 1/4 mile in low 15's at over 90mph. Decent for a car that's like USD$25k. But ya, it would be nice if there's also an Accord V6 6MT sedan for customers like you.

IMO the A-spec is just a cosmetic and handling enhancement package. It's sort of like BMW Sport Line (or even M Sport), Lexus F-Sport Line, and Audi S-Line. As mentioned, you can buy a 180hp 320i with the Sport Line package. Not everyone wants or needs 300hp. It's all about having choices. May be some people prefer having a lighter engine up front for better weight distribution. Or may be some people want better fuel economy. Or perhaps someone likes the handling improvements as well as the nicer styling of the A-spec package, but don't want to get a V6.

Kense

Yeah well they advertise the car like it's a 400 HP monster so I see it more as them trying to pass off the car as something it's not. The M Sport and F Sport Packages don't adverse in commercials like the Acura. Acura TLX commercials are like Giulia commercials without the looks or performance.

Dejan

Wow 206 hp in 2018? The TSX was making the same power from its 2.4L 4 cyl in 2004! How has there been no progress in so many years?

kurtatx

I like the Giulia commercials a lot. That being said, I like it because I like the car.