boe_d

Hello,

It seems like the majority of people on this forum want a 600hp 22" wheel TL but I'm wondering if anyone else here besides me wants a TLX hybrid?

The new accord hybrid (non pugin) actually has good acceleration for a hybrid. I don't really ever need to tow a house or drive on the autobahn so any car that gets 0-60 in 8 seconds or less and can cruise at 78mph (speed I can safely travel without getting a ticket) suits my needs just fine.

I'll admit while I've loved previous gens of TLs and thought they were good bang for the buck, I find the current TL too fugly to even consider replacing my old TL.

justnspace

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The TLX will have the 3.5 earth dreams engine and be pushing about 310 hp at the crank.
I think it will be sort of a hybrid with the electric motor assist, like the NSX.

soo, if you want a "traditional" hybrid you'll have to look at the accord with the 8-second 0-60 stint.

the TLX will be more sporty!!

HeartTLs

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Multiple choice needs ability to receive multiple choices.

potmilkz

real men dont drive hybrids

docboy

Probably not, I like my 6MT. I doubt that Acura would be able to equip a Hybrid SH-AWD w/6MT; if so, it would be a technological leap forward.

TeamAcura

I'd consider it if some of the technology carried over from the new NSX which I can see happening. I don't know if you driven the 4G but it's the best TL to date from an engineering standpoint especially with the 3.7L motor and the SH-AWD (not to take anything away from the 3.5L either because I think they're still better than any previous gen). I'm being partial with looks since I own a 4G but they look futuristic and sharp looking to me.

Ziffle

Completely agree with what he said!

Cygnus_X1

They need to make a hybrid TLX to stay relevant. My 2013 TL is a great car but the gas mileage is terrible and that's on top of having to use premium gas. I would definitely be interested in a hybrid TLX...unless they get rid of the DVD-A player then I'm switching to something else anyways.

Colin

They're certainly getting rid of DVD-A. It's gone from the new MDX and RLX as well. As for the Hybrid system to expect. We've been hearing for a while that it will be the system from the new (non-plugin) Accord. If so, I expect to see the following (from Motor Trends review of the Japanese Accord http://m.motortrend.com/roadtests/al...n_first_drive/)
Note that because the gas and electric motor's power curves don't peak at the same time, the overall rating is somewhat modest at 196 hp. 0-60 in 7.5 is no slouch, and my guess it will 'feel' stronger than it looks on paper.

Some Honda dealers are starting to get their 2014 brochures and have found that the car is rated for 50 mpg city,45mpg highway, and 47mpg combined.

RosieQ

As the TLX is taking over for the TSX and TL I would suspect that a 4 and 6 cylinder will be offered. Most competitors either do offer or will offer 4 cyl models for fuel efficiency with modest power numbers as well. I am certainly hoping for a 4 cyl option at or just above the TSX price point now. The divergent lines would seem perfect for a fuel efficient hybrid system similar to the accord (~50mpg) and then a power oriented AWD hybrid version to couple with the 6 cyl version. I would be extremely interested in an ~200hp 4cyl hybrid TLX so long as it is cost effective. I know that this forum is filled with speed enthusiasts but I do 90% of my driving in the city and rarely get above 40mph. Would much prefer efficiency and cost effectiveness with a sporty kick once in a while. I see the lexus 300h all over town, more even than the new 300ES. They have identified a key niche that I'm certainly a part of.

smaragh72

If they used the sport hybrid powertrain (like the one going into the RLX) with a 7 speed DCT, then yes, I would be interested in it.

2011TL

Same here. If that is not available on the TLX and the RLX hybrid doesn't fit my value criteria (i.e. price too high), then I am probably going to jump the Acura ship and look at other options such as the Audi S4 and A6 Prestige.

zapco

Fuck no.

Oswald Vater

I originally said "yes" if they could make it cost-competitive with the gas version but if it has the specs as Colin said my answer would change to a "no".

HeartTLs

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Yea Colin way to kill my hopes!

BEAR-AvHistory

No

Costco

Yeah, screw those ILX hybrid and CR-Z owners, thinking they're hot shit in a champagne glass. They're just cold diarrhea in a dixie cup.

Rocket_man

I test drove the Lincoln MKZ Hybrid. That car is supposed to get 45mpg, it doesn't quite do that but it gets close. I found the acceleration was better than I expected, but of course not the same as a NA or turbo. However I feel it was enough to satisfy many potential owners. In fact Ford is doubling the production of hybrids/2.0T's pushing allocation to 40%. But they also designed the battery pack to allow fold down split rear seats. There is a nice pass through, but the batteries still take up a lot of trunk space and there is no spare tire on Hybrid models.

I'm sure at some point in the near future many of us will be driving hybrids. The technology is improving constantly. The new Accord non-plugin hybrid is an example. This full sized hybrid will get Prius-like mpg in a more normal package.

But what I want to see manufactures do is design the car as a hybrid from the ground up like Tesla has done with the electric car. Design a location for the batteries that is not a simple cop-out solution like 'oh lets put them in the trunk' They should have designed the Accord Hybrid with the battery packs as part of the design of the car from day one, not as a modification of the gas powered car. When they do that they will take the hybrid to the next level of practicality. More people would be open to a hybrid if it were more functional and not just about gas mileage.

jim_c

Never.
I'm sort of glad that I am too old to have to make decisions like this!
My current 4G will possibly do me until I croak.
I have enjoyed driving for over 50 years and the new cars are fantastic, but these futuristic vehicles like the hybrid described above are way too complicated and environmentally wasteful. By that I mean they are too big, too heavy, and too complex for their basic task which remains getting people and their stuff from A to B.

boe_d

I know what you mean, I remember about 10 years ago seeing a number of designs where the battery packs were essentially part of the undercarriage so that it didn't mean giving up a spare tire, or trunk space and keeping the center of gravity very low on the car.

boe_d

I agree. I regret that I clicked submit before looking for that box. I'm thinking about reposting with multiple choice as an option.

dwest1023

No.

BEAR-AvHistory

Its what the mfg. design goals are. Prius is all fuel economy while some high end cars its about performance at a reasonable fuel usage. Expect the hybrids will be developed based on the customer profile for the brand

hddnav

Yes, I would be interested in a TLX Hybrid.

However, Honda's had an awful track record of making Hybrids that 1) are reliable (numerous stories of Civic Hybrid batteries dying prematurely and 2) return Toyota-Hybrid-like MPGs (Honda's IMA is inferior to Toyota's Hybrid Synergy drive). For this reason alone, I'm reluctant to touch any Honda Hybrid. As a company, my opinion is that Honda has no clue how to make a Hybrid for the real world.

I came from a 2011 Prius Five (which was rear-ended and totaled), so I'm fully on board with well-engineered Hybrid Technology. I just wouldn't touch Honda's Hybrids with a 10-foot pole.

Also, I crossed shopped the Camry Hybrid, 2013 Honda Accord Touring, and TL SH-AWD before choosing the Acura, so I do appreciate what Honda is good at (reliable cars with lots of value for the money).

Rocket_man

Honda is replacing the IMA system (which I agree was inferior) with a new hybrid system which would appear to be better than the Toyota HSD. Of course it hasn't hit the real world yet, but you can't judge the new Accord Hybrid by the old IMA, it is new, different, and appears to be impressive.

More and more luxury brands are adding hybrids, Acura will be no exception. The new Accord Hybrid will make a good base for a TLX hybrid. And for the market segment (I agree is small) that are looking for a luxury hybrid, it will make a good impression.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...n_first_drive/

dcdriver

I'd buy it if the power is modest. I don't see the sport hybrid getting on this car until the NSX has it first.

Mr Marco

I'm too fat for a hybrid, gas motor would be running most of the time anyhow.

Colin

If you really want to see how the new system works so you can make an informed opinion, here is a video (3.43 min). The Plug In system is the same tech as the Non-plug in except for the size of the battery. http://world.honda.com/LosAngeles201...nHybrid/video/

It'll run up to 50 MPH in EV mode or till the batteries are exhausted, then the gas engine kicks in. Above 50 MPH, it's generally gas operation, but the electric motors can provide additional power if needed.

boe_d

I'm going to start a new thread on Monday that allows multiple choice. If there is a choice you want please let me know now as you can't add choices after the poll is posted.