Maybe Leaving Acura for Infiniti
#41
Burning Brakes
I agree with you about interior (i have a g37x premium), and with years it becomes more outdated, it needs a refresh. But when i changed from TL to G37 i overpassed this and take a lot of pleasure to drive it.
I know what you mean about interior space, but go and try a BMW 3 series or an A4 and it's the same or worst
I know what you mean about interior space, but go and try a BMW 3 series or an A4 and it's the same or worst
#42
I was fine with the size of the A4, the 3 series I wish was a little bigger but if I liked it more I would overlook it. It did have a good size truck. The IS felt too small, although legroom for the driver is fine the shoulder room and headroom (if you need a backseat rear legroom too) needs to increase. The TL doesn't feel big when driven though.
#43
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G37 guy01
I don't know what u look but u must be blind if u say the g37 interior is nicer then TL,
i opened the doors and it felt like i opened Kia i closed the doors it sound like it got loose bolts in the doors, the control for mirrors got the 360degree turn to the left and right so out dated, the heated seat control has turning knobs, center consul and cup holder cheap as hell, the dashboard is ugly,the gauge cluster ugly i don't want to say too much but i think i go with Kia Optima before that car, cheap as hell and road noise doesn't even feel like luxury car IMO
JPD985
I like the size of 4gTL but i don't like when my shoulders are resting on "B" post and passenger,
My friend had 335 sedan and it was small no one can sit behind me, audi i never like so never looked into it
I don't know what u look but u must be blind if u say the g37 interior is nicer then TL,
i opened the doors and it felt like i opened Kia i closed the doors it sound like it got loose bolts in the doors, the control for mirrors got the 360degree turn to the left and right so out dated, the heated seat control has turning knobs, center consul and cup holder cheap as hell, the dashboard is ugly,the gauge cluster ugly i don't want to say too much but i think i go with Kia Optima before that car, cheap as hell and road noise doesn't even feel like luxury car IMO
JPD985
I like the size of 4gTL but i don't like when my shoulders are resting on "B" post and passenger,
My friend had 335 sedan and it was small no one can sit behind me, audi i never like so never looked into it
#44
G37 guy01
I don't know what u look but u must be blind if u say the g37 interior is nicer then TL,
i opened the doors and it felt like i opened Kia i closed the doors it sound like it got loose bolts in the doors, the control for mirrors got the 360degree turn to the left and right so out dated, the heated seat control has turning knobs, center consul and cup holder cheap as hell, the dashboard is ugly,the gauge cluster ugly i don't want to say too much but i think i go with Kia Optima before that car, cheap as hell and road noise doesn't even feel like luxury car IMO
I don't know what u look but u must be blind if u say the g37 interior is nicer then TL,
i opened the doors and it felt like i opened Kia i closed the doors it sound like it got loose bolts in the doors, the control for mirrors got the 360degree turn to the left and right so out dated, the heated seat control has turning knobs, center consul and cup holder cheap as hell, the dashboard is ugly,the gauge cluster ugly i don't want to say too much but i think i go with Kia Optima before that car, cheap as hell and road noise doesn't even feel like luxury car IMO
#46
G37 guy01
I don't know what u look but u must be blind if u say the g37 interior is nicer then TL,
i opened the doors and it felt like i opened Kia i closed the doors it sound like it got loose bolts in the doors, the control for mirrors got the 360degree turn to the left and right so out dated, the heated seat control has turning knobs, center consul and cup holder cheap as hell, the dashboard is ugly,the gauge cluster ugly i don't want to say too much but i think i go with Kia Optima before that car, cheap as hell and road noise doesn't even feel like luxury car IMO
JPD985
I like the size of 4gTL but i don't like when my shoulders are resting on "B" post and passenger,
My friend had 335 sedan and it was small no one can sit behind me, audi i never like so never looked into it
I don't know what u look but u must be blind if u say the g37 interior is nicer then TL,
i opened the doors and it felt like i opened Kia i closed the doors it sound like it got loose bolts in the doors, the control for mirrors got the 360degree turn to the left and right so out dated, the heated seat control has turning knobs, center consul and cup holder cheap as hell, the dashboard is ugly,the gauge cluster ugly i don't want to say too much but i think i go with Kia Optima before that car, cheap as hell and road noise doesn't even feel like luxury car IMO
JPD985
I like the size of 4gTL but i don't like when my shoulders are resting on "B" post and passenger,
My friend had 335 sedan and it was small no one can sit behind me, audi i never like so never looked into it
#47
Three Wheelin'
EW i do not like infiniti nissan at all. stay away. There are better cars out there like the TSX V6, 2012 Benz C350, 2012 BMW 328i, VW CC and Lexus IS350.
if you want something comfy and lux look at the buick verano:
![](http://www.carreviewsoup.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/2012-Verano-interior-mm-gal-1-870x329-4.png)
my Favorites are the TSX V6 and the 328i.
if you want something comfy and lux look at the buick verano:
![](http://www.carreviewsoup.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/2012-Verano-interior-mm-gal-1-870x329-4.png)
my Favorites are the TSX V6 and the 328i.
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#49
6G TLX-S
#52
Instructor
That goes for me too, I've owned 2 Nissans and they were not only very reliable, they drove well with the same amount of road noise as my Acura which personally every car company can do a better job.
#53
Three Wheelin'
My M45 was one of my favorite cars. It was not perfect, but then I have not found a car that is. But I liked it enough that I would have got another one except the deals went away on them after I got my first one.
#54
I had an fx35 before my Acura TL... the fx35 gave me soooo many electrical problems it was ridiculous before 50k miles. I was so happy to trade it in. Im not a fan of the nissan 3.5 either, they are known for their reliability but also their engine knocks. go figure
#55
This was your experience. How many others owned your vehicle and had the same problems? There is going to be some that have problems. Generally I heard the Gs have a good reputation for reliability. For the OP it comes down to which one they like better and could see themselves enjoying it years from now. I personally think you couldn't go wrong with either.
#56
Racer
#57
Burning Brakes
G37 guy01
I don't know what u look but u must be blind if u say the g37 interior is nicer then TL,
i opened the doors and it felt like i opened Kia i closed the doors it sound like it got loose bolts in the doors, the control for mirrors got the 360degree turn to the left and right so out dated, the heated seat control has turning knobs, center consul and cup holder cheap as hell, the dashboard is ugly,the gauge cluster ugly i don't want to say too much but i think i go with Kia Optima before that car, cheap as hell and road noise doesn't even feel like luxury car IMO
JPD985
I like the size of 4gTL but i don't like when my shoulders are resting on "B" post and passenger,
My friend had 335 sedan and it was small no one can sit behind me, audi i never like so never looked into it
I don't know what u look but u must be blind if u say the g37 interior is nicer then TL,
i opened the doors and it felt like i opened Kia i closed the doors it sound like it got loose bolts in the doors, the control for mirrors got the 360degree turn to the left and right so out dated, the heated seat control has turning knobs, center consul and cup holder cheap as hell, the dashboard is ugly,the gauge cluster ugly i don't want to say too much but i think i go with Kia Optima before that car, cheap as hell and road noise doesn't even feel like luxury car IMO
JPD985
I like the size of 4gTL but i don't like when my shoulders are resting on "B" post and passenger,
My friend had 335 sedan and it was small no one can sit behind me, audi i never like so never looked into it
While I can appreciate you like your TL and opinions are like you know what, real world Acura has to up the ante and have the target market really see they've upped the ante.
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#59
Honda Fanboy
The G is a nice car. I would never call it a shit car. If the G is a shit car then that doesn't say much for the TL because the two aren't that far apart from each other to begin with.
That being said, the TL is an overall more luxurious and better built car, I don't think anyone can really argue against that. I'm sure there are things that the G does better than the TL, but I think the TL scores better in areas that affect actual real-world use.
That being said, the TL is an overall more luxurious and better built car, I don't think anyone can really argue against that. I'm sure there are things that the G does better than the TL, but I think the TL scores better in areas that affect actual real-world use.
#60
This was your experience. How many others owned your vehicle and had the same problems? There is going to be some that have problems. Generally I heard the Gs have a good reputation for reliability. For the OP it comes down to which one they like better and could see themselves enjoying it years from now. I personally think you couldn't go wrong with either.
I totally agree. But wouldnt you base your opinion on your own personal experience? I like the infiniti product or i wouldnt have bought it, but unfortunately it i got a lemon. If its new and you're protected under warranty from all angles I say buy whatever you want!
#61
Three Wheelin'
The G is a nice car. I would never call it a shit car. If the G is a shit car then that doesn't say much for the TL because the two aren't that far apart from each other to begin with.
That being said, the TL is an overall more luxurious and better built car, I don't think anyone can really argue against that. I'm sure there are things that the G does better than the TL, but I think the TL scores better in areas that affect actual real-world use.
That being said, the TL is an overall more luxurious and better built car, I don't think anyone can really argue against that. I'm sure there are things that the G does better than the TL, but I think the TL scores better in areas that affect actual real-world use.
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#63
Autofahrer
I picked the TL over the G37x, because of room inside and even though the G37x was 5Gs cheaper, the 0.9% financing made the TL way more attractive and in the end they both cost the same.
And my impression was as well, that the inside of the G was not as up to quality of the TL.
In the end both cars have their pros and cons, and we picked the TL and that's why we're in this forum.
So a guy with g37 in his name of course defends his pick...
I pickled the TL because of roominess, Honda's reliability, price and SH-AWD. And I loved the design, but I am German so what do I know...
And my impression was as well, that the inside of the G was not as up to quality of the TL.
In the end both cars have their pros and cons, and we picked the TL and that's why we're in this forum.
So a guy with g37 in his name of course defends his pick...
I pickled the TL because of roominess, Honda's reliability, price and SH-AWD. And I loved the design, but I am German so what do I know...
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#64
TL 2012 SH-AWD TECH/UMBER
I picked the TL over the G37x, because of room inside and even though the G37x was 5Gs cheaper, the 0.9% financing made the TL way more attractive and in the end they both cost the same.
And my impression was as well, that the inside of the G was not as up to quality of the TL.
In the end both cars have their pros and cons, and we picked the TL and that's why we're in this forum.
So a guy with g37 in his name of course defends his pick...
I pickled the TL because of roominess, Honda's reliability, price and SH-AWD. And I loved the design, but I am German so what do I know...![Big Grin](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
And my impression was as well, that the inside of the G was not as up to quality of the TL.
In the end both cars have their pros and cons, and we picked the TL and that's why we're in this forum.
So a guy with g37 in his name of course defends his pick...
I pickled the TL because of roominess, Honda's reliability, price and SH-AWD. And I loved the design, but I am German so what do I know...
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#65
I test drove a G too before I got my new 2012 TL-SH-AWD. It handles well and is a rocket off the launch pad. The engine did feel a bit coarse compared to the J37 in the TL and the interior is smaller. The ATTESA-ETS system is probably not as unique as the SH-AWD.
I thought the TL was a more well rounded car and its handling is outstanding - where I live we have a lot of roundabouts and its a *real* blast barreling the TL thru them - not as much fun in a G. But on a straight the G is outstanding. I did also like the analog clock - nice classy touch.
Just my 2C
#66
I picked the TL over the G37x, because of room inside and even though the G37x was 5Gs cheaper, the 0.9% financing made the TL way more attractive and in the end they both cost the same.
And my impression was as well, that the inside of the G was not as up to quality of the TL.
In the end both cars have their pros and cons, and we picked the TL and that's why we're in this forum.
So a guy with g37 in his name of course defends his pick...
I pickled the TL because of roominess, Honda's reliability, price and SH-AWD. And I loved the design, but I am German so what do I know...![Big Grin](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
And my impression was as well, that the inside of the G was not as up to quality of the TL.
In the end both cars have their pros and cons, and we picked the TL and that's why we're in this forum.
So a guy with g37 in his name of course defends his pick...
I pickled the TL because of roominess, Honda's reliability, price and SH-AWD. And I loved the design, but I am German so what do I know...
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#67
Both are good cars and you couldn't go wrong with either one. It just comes down to what you like best. To me the TL felt smoother and more refined and I like the interior quality better. To others that may not be the case. The important thing is to get the car you like better and not the one others think you should get.
#68
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2011 G37x,Liquid Platinum / Graphite Leather. Premium Package, Navigation Package, Interior Accent Package, Performance Wheel & Tire Package; Wheel Locks. List Price: $42730.00 Your Price, including all incentives & trade-in: $34,222.55*
But with the 2% difference in financing the TL was still cheaper (don't nail me on the math, because that was a year ago
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#69
TL 2012 SH-AWD TECH/UMBER
I paid $37500 for my TL, the G37x was a few bucks less and included:
2011 G37x,Liquid Platinum / Graphite Leather. Premium Package, Navigation Package, Interior Accent Package, Performance Wheel & Tire Package; Wheel Locks. List Price: $42730.00 Your Price, including all incentives & trade-in: $34,222.55*
But with the 2% difference in financing the TL was still cheaper (don't nail me on the math, because that was a year ago
), but I think Acura paid me more with my trade-in.
2011 G37x,Liquid Platinum / Graphite Leather. Premium Package, Navigation Package, Interior Accent Package, Performance Wheel & Tire Package; Wheel Locks. List Price: $42730.00 Your Price, including all incentives & trade-in: $34,222.55*
But with the 2% difference in financing the TL was still cheaper (don't nail me on the math, because that was a year ago
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51 115$ here plus taxes. but it includes a 1500$ rebate. We are so rich in Canada we can afford that
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Tl 2012 sh awd tech Auto, 48885$ plus taxes here. You 43 770 plus taxes. 5 000$ in difference
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#70
Burning Brakes
i disagree, the TL does everything better. The 2012 solved the big grille problem too so in terms of looks at least the TL is not dated. 0.92G at skidpad is really good for a TL SH-AWD, that's more grip than Aston martin v8 vantage. Acura's reliability is better than infiniti, so is its roomier interior and comfort. The infinti's only win might be the exhaust note.
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This was your experience. How many others owned your vehicle and had the same problems? There is going to be some that have problems. Generally I heard the Gs have a good reputation for reliability. For the OP it comes down to which one they like better and could see themselves enjoying it years from now. I personally think you couldn't go wrong with either.
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Help me out with speed...from what I'm reading both cars are doing 5.2-5.4 0-60, and high 13 quarters. Is that not the case? Doesn't seem like a point of discussion to me.
#73
Three Wheelin'
We already covered that. The only TL that comes close is the manual transmission. With automatics the G37 runs off and hides from a TL. I'm basing that on both road test data and the fact that I have driven both.
#74
TL 2012 SH-AWD TECH/UMBER
#75
When I replaced the 810 my wife made me promise 1) no fuel injection and 2) no Datsun.
It just goes to show how much anecdotal experience influences people. I am sure many people have much better results with their Nissan products, but the the thought of my owning another one makes me retch.
#76
Instructor
While I think the G has a very attractive exterior, I feel that the interior left much to be desired in comparison to the TL. Since you spend the majority of the time inside the car (versus looking at the exterior of course), I think it is something you should weigh heavily in your decision. I found the G's interior rather plain/boring.
I also did not feel that I lost much (if anything) in the performance area, when picking the TL over the G...after testing both vehicles extensively. This is comparing the 6 MT versions. I cannot speak for the performance difference with the AT.
I also did not feel that I lost much (if anything) in the performance area, when picking the TL over the G...after testing both vehicles extensively. This is comparing the 6 MT versions. I cannot speak for the performance difference with the AT.
#77
There were a few times I thought about jumping over to infiniti because I heard nissan was very reliable, and I knew that auto transmissions for honda/acura were not great at all but wasn't sure if nissan had tranny issues as well. But for what it's worth, the specs/numbers on paper don't mean anything, I test drove a g35 late model and it didn't feel like it had power, it felt heavy, sluggish, and interior materials are squeeky and cheap. Then again the tl has cracked dashboards. I would look more into the mechanical aspects more than anything, 7AT I would assume more shifting, therefore more clutch pack wears and etc. Unless you go manual, others sometimes may need to borrow your ride but don't know how to drive stick.
#78
Racer
well most of the fun i have in the car is on the twistys. in the city youve got to be stupid to speed too much. so easy to get a ticket. i find the tl is plenty fast. love driving with the paddle shifters in manua mode.
#79
It just mean you are getting older ![Tongue](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
I just bought yesterday a new 2012 TL AWD TECH A Bellanova White with umber interior
I owned a g37X AT 2009. Before this car i had 2 Tls 2005 and 2007.
I just changed not because i don't like my g37, but i wanted to change and not lease almost the same car for the next 3 years, And i know a new g is coming soon. Also i have a very good deal from Acura, with maintenance included, 0.25% rate, 25 months lease (in Canada).
Interior i haqve always regretted my TLs, I got used with g37 interior but really is not as nice as the TL. Exterior compare to 2012 Tl for me no love or hate for both. Just the TL is too large for my need and taste
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I just bought yesterday a new 2012 TL AWD TECH A Bellanova White with umber interior
I owned a g37X AT 2009. Before this car i had 2 Tls 2005 and 2007.
I just changed not because i don't like my g37, but i wanted to change and not lease almost the same car for the next 3 years, And i know a new g is coming soon. Also i have a very good deal from Acura, with maintenance included, 0.25% rate, 25 months lease (in Canada).
Interior i haqve always regretted my TLs, I got used with g37 interior but really is not as nice as the TL. Exterior compare to 2012 Tl for me no love or hate for both. Just the TL is too large for my need and taste
bellanova white with umber? if I can get this combination when my infiniti ex 35 lease ends in march of 2013 I am going to be an acura driver again. the acura tech is better than the infiniti tech and the acura is smoother. damn I wish it was already 12 months in the future!
#80
the word is infiniti. and they are not shit cars. your comment is absurd. the g series is a good driving car but low on luxury relative to its direct competition. the lexus is 350 is to me the best car having leased one for 4 years. my infiniti ex 35 would be better if it was 25% larger and had the 7 speed transmission. the interior is much much better than any g but too small.