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#281
'10 Hyundai Genesis Coupe
Originally Posted by RamuhRx7
WHAT u mean to tell me theres no more d1 racing anymore =( lol
Well people will just take those AWD cars and remove the Front half shaft and convert it to RWD.
If you don't believe that's possible a simple "RWD STi" search on YouTube will show you some footage of RWD subbies.
#282
'10 Hyundai Genesis Coupe
Originally Posted by Edward'TLS
AWD is heavy and robs engine power big time. Highly unlike be the ONLY thing in the future given the ever rising fuel cost.
Which is why I'll stick with FWD over AWD if they offer a TL in both trims. People also forget the further away the motor is from the wheels it spins the greater the power loss.
RWD and AWD have more power loss, correctly stated as drivetrain loss, than a FWD vehicle.
#283
6G TLX-S
Originally Posted by Eoanou
Which is why I'll stick with FWD over AWD if they offer a TL in both trims. People also forget the further away the motor is from the wheels it spins the greater the power loss.
RWD and AWD have more power loss, correctly stated as drivetrain loss, than a FWD vehicle.
RWD and AWD have more power loss, correctly stated as drivetrain loss, than a FWD vehicle.
#286
Cablevision Employee
Originally Posted by JAZEUSTL05
no Side Markers + No Body Line = Crap
#287
'10 Hyundai Genesis Coupe
Originally Posted by Shalooby
I hate to say it, but the Cadillac CTX is looking pretty good. If it wasn't for the damn pop-up navigation screen. That's just gimmicky.
They did a great job with that car.
#288
'10 Hyundai Genesis Coupe
Originally Posted by robbie82
I cant agree with you more. I dont feel the body shape on this car, to many curves and change in direction. Its was seamless in the last gen. Thank god I have one. My 04 in great condition looks better than a brand new 09 so far...
#289
'10 Hyundai Genesis Coupe
Originally Posted by Edward'TLS
Unfortunately, FWD cars cannot handle more than 290-300hp and still maintain good handling capability. That's why the 3.5L-V6 engine has to be detuned in the FWD TL-S. But on RWD cars, one can dump lots and lots of hp and torque onto the rear wheels and still maintain good handling capability, all because the front wheels are solely used for steering not for propulsion.
I doubt the TL will ever see more than 300hp, unless they manage to get more fuel efficiency.
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'06 750Li Sapphire/Creme
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Originally Posted by Acuraluvr
RWD is not DEAD, but facing a smaller market i would assume... people said the same for manual gearboxes but theres still a market...
RWD is dead for HONDA i would say
RWD is dead for HONDA i would say
Originally Posted by RAMEX
Well HONDA is dead for me!!!!
#293
Go Big Blue!
Originally Posted by ndabunka
But Honda has never offered a RWD car so it doesn't look like you were EVER a Honda supporter/owner anyway. Your statement is like subtracting ZERO from Zero, the result (and thereby you) is in-significant.
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Originally Posted by albeik
+NSX (Acura in NA)
#300
6G TLX-S
Originally Posted by Eoanou
I doubt the TL will ever see more than 300hp, unless they manage to get more fuel efficiency.
#301
Instructor
Originally Posted by TL260power
I am sure this is not the final because it's very ugly...I think Acura is putting this out just to get an idea of what people think and suggest...
I personally think that the 09 TL will be visually pleasing and would will well placed in the market.
#305
Full of water...
Originally Posted by phee
you guys do realize there is tape all over that car right? there is tape over the rear lights as well as the body lines....i REALLY like the side profile
exactly
there was a big article about this in one of the recent C&D or R&T, and i think one of the pics was one of the older camo TL pics that is floating around somewhere. so yeah, acura doesnt want us to know what it looks like yet.
#306
Instructor
So what? It feels good to bash this car because we own 3G's and most of us won't be able to justify trading up! So let us bash this highly masked car as though it's the finished product. It makes us feel good, if only for a few months.
#307
9.5+10.5 22m=Hella Flush
Originally Posted by AcuraZ
I want this
If the new TL looks like this then I would definitely look into trading my 3rd Gen for it. But looks like I will be keeping my 3rd Gen for a while.
#308
Instructor
Originally Posted by ed99
If the new TL looks like this then I would definitely look into trading my 3rd Gen for it. But looks like I will be keeping my 3rd Gen for a while.
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Originally Posted by ndabunka
But Honda has never offered a RWD car so it doesn't look like you were EVER a Honda supporter/owner anyway. Your statement is like subtracting ZERO from Zero, the result (and thereby you) is in-significant.
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Originally Posted by Eoanou
How does me saying the car won't ever have more than 300hp relate to the picture?
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Originally Posted by ndabunka
But Honda has never offered a RWD car so it doesn't look like you were EVER a Honda supporter/owner anyway. Your statement is like subtracting ZERO from Zero, the result (and thereby you) is in-significant.
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Originally Posted by Eoanou
How does me saying the car won't ever have more than 300hp relate to the picture?
#317
6G TLX-S
Originally Posted by o4Komodo
If I'm not mistakened, Honda had an AWD or RWD Civic back in the 80s... I forget which it was, though. I'm sure it was one of those once in a lifetime models that are never heard of a year later type of car.
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Originally Posted by Edward'TLS
It was the 3rd generation Civic wagon that has the Real-Time four-wheel drive system and a lame 91 hp 1.5L-I4 12-valve fuel-injected engine. The term "AWD" had not been invented at that time.