2009 Acura TL/CL Type-S-Merged Threads-All 2009 topics will be merged here
02-26-2007, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by tracerit
thread derailed lol
The IS-F looks alright, but I'm looking to not spend more than $30k for my next car.
The IS-F looks alright, but I'm looking to not spend more than $30k for my next car.
02-26-2007, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by wasupdog
the IS250 and 350 look exactly the same and i can barely even tell the difference with that F???
02-26-2007, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
that lex is hot. unfortunately, those are the NASTIEST exhaust pipes i have EVER SEEN !! lol
02-26-2007, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ecliptics
the 250 and 250 are exactly the same. its the engine thats whats different. umm im not sure but that f is different from the current IS only in the front bumper. it has more of an audi rieger kit look with a new look in foglights. thats it
lol
02-26-2007, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by lembowski
And you think the 2009 TL will be below 30k? Just going with trend I look for the remodled 09 to be around 40k. Your better off going with the TSX
02-26-2007, 09:42 PM
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miscommunication haha, if i were to wait for the 2010 TL/TSX, I'd save up 6000 and hoping to get 8000 on my 2004 Accord in 2009, using the 14000 as a down payment. It's still a long ways away, I just want to if the next gen TL and TSXs are worth the wait.
02-26-2007, 10:13 PM
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Even with SH-AWD, $39-40K for a TL/tech package will leave a bitter taste in many mouths. Of course, invoice at $36-37K will be a little more reasonable. Maybe the 2010 TL at invoice may be something to look forward to.
02-27-2007, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by bforbrian
1. If you have the money wait for the new 2008 IS-F--5.0L V8. 400+ hp
2. Acura told me that they got rid of the rsx so that they could make the TSX in two trims: sedan and coupe.
3. The 2009 TL will probably be redesigned as planned--the TL is the acura saving car.
2. Acura told me that they got rid of the rsx so that they could make the TSX in two trims: sedan and coupe.
3. The 2009 TL will probably be redesigned as planned--the TL is the acura saving car.
02-27-2007, 12:19 AM
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my cousin and i test drove the new TL-s and we were talkin to the sales man and he said 2009 they were for sure gunna come out wit a TL coupe, with over 300 horses, on a side note, that lex would be hott without the exhaust pipez, it looks really agressive with the redesigned front end IMO im not really feelin the back
02-27-2007, 12:25 AM
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The IS-F is a very nice looking car. Unfortunately, it belongs in Off Topic: Car Talk. Feel free to repost there.
I have cleaned up this thread. Let's stay on topic please.
BTW, there are already two threads on the '09 TL:
I'm not sure how this thread is any different from the first one. You'll end up with people making speculations and hopeful wish lists.
The last time we got word of the '07 Type-S through a news leak, but even then, some of the information was questionable.
I have cleaned up this thread. Let's stay on topic please.
BTW, there are already two threads on the '09 TL:
I'm not sure how this thread is any different from the first one. You'll end up with people making speculations and hopeful wish lists.
The last time we got word of the '07 Type-S through a news leak, but even then, some of the information was questionable.
02-27-2007, 12:56 AM
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I've posted in one of those threads but it got lost in all the talk of performance and specs. This is different in that I'd like to know how Acura usually announces new models.
02-27-2007, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by tracerit
thread derailed lol
The IS-F looks alright, but I'm looking to not spend more than $30k for my next car.
The IS-F looks alright, but I'm looking to not spend more than $30k for my next car.
02-27-2007, 11:27 AM
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I believe from what he is saying, he only wants to have no more than a 30K finance on his car. He can put down $14K or so. So you've got about $48K there.
02-27-2007, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Thorin78
I believe from what he is saying, he only wants to have no more than a 30K finance on his car. He can put down $14K or so. So you've got about $48K there.
03-06-2007, 06:51 PM
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No one can know how Acura will announce the 2009 TL (which should be out in late 08), and I would imgaine that matters less than what the car will actually be like so you can see if you even like it, right?
If you want to keep it under 30k, you are not in the market for a new TL, or the Lexus IS350. Go to kbb.com (kelly blue book) and look up new car pricing for both, and you will see why. I work for a nonprofit consumer group and negotiate new cars for a living, so I know the low end of what dealers will give one up for, and I'm telling you it's not happening. And no, TLs aren't at 40k. Check kbb.com
You can consider the TSX, or maaaybe the IS250 (if you don't mind going over 30k after all state fees and taxes).
I'm sure the next TL will only be more expensive, but starts in the low 30s now (as does the IS350).
Now, you can always buy a used TL or IS, of course. Present TL body style goes back to 2004, Lexus IS goes back to 2006.
There's also a completely new Accord for 08, supposedly much sportier than the present one (check out the Accord coupe from the Detroit Auto Show last January as an indication)
http://www.leftlanenews.com/2008-hon...-unveiled.html
The next TSX (also the European Honda Accord) might also be a consideration, and more closely sized to a Lexus IS (concept) vs TL (mid-sized)
Here's a possible concept that it might turn into:
http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/354/C11135/
FYI for those who asked, the present TSX came out in Feburary 03 as an 04 model. TL came out in October 03 as an 04 model, and Lexus IS came out Fall 05 as an 06 model.
Either way, I'd say to hold off and save up as much as you can as long as you can so you have more to use towards your next car (and maybe be able to go over 30k if need be).
If you want to keep it under 30k, you are not in the market for a new TL, or the Lexus IS350. Go to kbb.com (kelly blue book) and look up new car pricing for both, and you will see why. I work for a nonprofit consumer group and negotiate new cars for a living, so I know the low end of what dealers will give one up for, and I'm telling you it's not happening. And no, TLs aren't at 40k. Check kbb.com
You can consider the TSX, or maaaybe the IS250 (if you don't mind going over 30k after all state fees and taxes).
I'm sure the next TL will only be more expensive, but starts in the low 30s now (as does the IS350).
Now, you can always buy a used TL or IS, of course. Present TL body style goes back to 2004, Lexus IS goes back to 2006.
There's also a completely new Accord for 08, supposedly much sportier than the present one (check out the Accord coupe from the Detroit Auto Show last January as an indication)
http://www.leftlanenews.com/2008-hon...-unveiled.html
The next TSX (also the European Honda Accord) might also be a consideration, and more closely sized to a Lexus IS (concept) vs TL (mid-sized)
Here's a possible concept that it might turn into:
http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/354/C11135/
FYI for those who asked, the present TSX came out in Feburary 03 as an 04 model. TL came out in October 03 as an 04 model, and Lexus IS came out Fall 05 as an 06 model.
Either way, I'd say to hold off and save up as much as you can as long as you can so you have more to use towards your next car (and maybe be able to go over 30k if need be).
03-06-2007, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by whatjones911
Shouldn't the new TSX be coming out at the end of this year? The TSX's 5 year cycle are up.
06-08-2007, 08:05 PM
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09 Acura Lineup
I found this on the net, check out the new TL specs. Don't know how much of this is true or not..
"As a manager for an Acura dealer, I can confirm that ScottM123 is about right on! All the details are not yet confirmed as I think Acura has not completely decided on the complete lineup as of yet.
Here's what I do know: ALL 09' Acura's will have SH-AWD. There will be a TSX type-S with the 2.3L Turbo from the RDX. The TL will get the current 3.5L (from the Type-S) with standard SH-AWD as I said. The new TL-S will get the 3.7L potentially with variable intake and exhaust and should push 320-330hp and limited slip.
It sounds like initially there will not be a six speed manual for this car as their current driveline is already pushed to its limit in the Type-S. The current S's 6-speed has a restrictor in the hydrolic clutch to make the clutch slip with hard shifting to protect the transmission from breaking teeth in the gears. An AWD car with even more horsepower would require an exceptionally beefy driveline for those of us who would abuse the car chasing down S6's & M3's. Very cost prohibitive. Who knows, we may be surprised.
Acura will be offering a small V-8 for both the new larger RL and the MDX.
The Rumor as to a Flagship car (Legend) over the RL is still a rumor. No confirmation has made it my way yet. The dealers are certainly pushing hard for this.
Coupes? It has actually been hinted that there may be a TL (off the new Accord Coupe) and possible a retractable hardtop RL coupe which a prototype has been spotted in Japan with a Honda logo on it.(Type-S with V-8).
And of course the all new NSX...($125k-$130k) Ah, it is an exciting time to be selling Acura's. 2009 will be their best product line EVER! I look forward to many excited customers rushing in to see and drive these great new cars!"
"As a manager for an Acura dealer, I can confirm that ScottM123 is about right on! All the details are not yet confirmed as I think Acura has not completely decided on the complete lineup as of yet.
Here's what I do know: ALL 09' Acura's will have SH-AWD. There will be a TSX type-S with the 2.3L Turbo from the RDX. The TL will get the current 3.5L (from the Type-S) with standard SH-AWD as I said. The new TL-S will get the 3.7L potentially with variable intake and exhaust and should push 320-330hp and limited slip.
It sounds like initially there will not be a six speed manual for this car as their current driveline is already pushed to its limit in the Type-S. The current S's 6-speed has a restrictor in the hydrolic clutch to make the clutch slip with hard shifting to protect the transmission from breaking teeth in the gears. An AWD car with even more horsepower would require an exceptionally beefy driveline for those of us who would abuse the car chasing down S6's & M3's. Very cost prohibitive. Who knows, we may be surprised.
Acura will be offering a small V-8 for both the new larger RL and the MDX.
The Rumor as to a Flagship car (Legend) over the RL is still a rumor. No confirmation has made it my way yet. The dealers are certainly pushing hard for this.
Coupes? It has actually been hinted that there may be a TL (off the new Accord Coupe) and possible a retractable hardtop RL coupe which a prototype has been spotted in Japan with a Honda logo on it.(Type-S with V-8).
And of course the all new NSX...($125k-$130k) Ah, it is an exciting time to be selling Acura's. 2009 will be their best product line EVER! I look forward to many excited customers rushing in to see and drive these great new cars!"
06-08-2007, 08:12 PM
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in 09 i think i will have to sell my TL for the new one 
06-08-2007, 10:23 PM
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The specs sound good, and should hopefully make the cars more competitive with Infiniti and Lexus.
It will make some of us yearn for the relatively "cheap" TLs on sale now, since the SH-AWD will have to bump prices up by 5K-10K.
But I hope the new TL looks better than the Advanced Sedan Concept they show on the Acura Website. That boxy design looks like one of Detriot's ugliest from the 1980s when the 70s were over and they wanted to do something different.
(In fact, more ugly cars like this from Japan might be the only way to save the domestic auto industry.
)
It will make some of us yearn for the relatively "cheap" TLs on sale now, since the SH-AWD will have to bump prices up by 5K-10K.
But I hope the new TL looks better than the Advanced Sedan Concept they show on the Acura Website. That boxy design looks like one of Detriot's ugliest from the 1980s when the 70s were over and they wanted to do something different.
(In fact, more ugly cars like this from Japan might be the only way to save the domestic auto industry.
)
06-08-2007, 11:31 PM
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This is great, some good info whether it is speculative or not! Something is better then nothing and it sounds very plausible! But lets remember that the mechanicals of honda's we all LIKE, it is the new styling that SCARES THE CRAP out of us! Take the MDX as an example.....
I really hope they dont screw up the TSX and TL's interior and exterior design!
I really hope they dont screw up the TSX and TL's interior and exterior design!
06-08-2007, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by evoman
This is great, some good info whether it is speculative or not! Something is better then nothing and it sounds very plausible! But lets remember that the mechanicals of honda's we all LIKE, it is the new styling that SCARES THE CRAP out of us! Take the MDX as an example.....
I really hope they dont screw up the TSX and TL's interior and exterior design!
I really hope they dont screw up the TSX and TL's interior and exterior design!
06-09-2007, 12:34 AM
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2007 MDX Design I HATE....and
ok, mabey i am the only one that hates the new MDX exterior (Love the interior)BUT, what about the acura advanced sedan....now you have to admit that is ugly.....huh huh...call me when you wake up from that nightmare!!! 
06-09-2007, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Trackruner228
Where did you find all of this?
although I spoke to my acura dealer and they were doubtful of the NSX coming out in 09 - that a new sports car may come out in 09, but would not be called the NSX since it's not a mid-engine. But that is the word of another dealer, so who knows for sure?
I really like the idea of ending the RL and bringing back the Legend. Maybe it will actually sell.
My dream:
2009 TL coupe with a turbocharged 3.7L and SH-AWD. Or better still, a turbodiesel!