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Old 12-07-2012 | 11:35 AM
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Yeah, the close up shot of the front looks like the tire has already pulled the fender out a little...maybe the 19's did that. Mine did.

No, the width is what's different, not the height of the wheel.
Old 12-07-2012 | 12:16 PM
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I'm thinking the 235 will be stretched more on the 9.75 than the 8.75 so it'll be a small height difference.
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Old 12-07-2012 | 12:27 PM
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gotcha...
didn't even think of that.
Old 12-07-2012 | 12:31 PM
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Anyways, I'm just hoping the very small amount of stretch on the 8.75 fronts will be fine. With the aspecs and 15mm spacers on the front I still have a little room between the tire and fender. We'll see soon enough I guess
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With all the crazy offsets people run, I'm sure you'll be able to make work whatever you choose.
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Found them with just the 5 holes but they're only in 18x 8.75 and are +35 offset

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Old 12-07-2012 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
Everyone I see "play it safe" and not go as aggressive as they'd wanted, ends up regretting...or getting spacers and regretting...and then sell the rims.
That comment makes me wanna still go for 19s. Why can't they make these in 19s and make my life easier?!
Old 12-07-2012 | 10:39 PM
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That comment makes me wanna still go for 19s. Why can't they make these in 19s and make my life easier?!
19's are coming out beginning next year
Old 12-12-2012 | 11:17 PM
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Just out of curiosity, why haven’t anyone run 225-35/18, instead of 215-40/18 on a 8.75??

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Old 12-13-2012 | 03:23 AM
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Just out of curiosity, why haven’t anyone run 225-35/18, instead of 215-40/18 on a 8.75??
too meaty of a tire for 8.75 to go Low Low. It will rub. I have 18x8.75x18 215s upfront and 9.75's in rear with the 225/35. That si the ticket for fitment. But if u are going a mild drop (1-1.5in) and "NEED" sidewall, go for it. But the offset may give u some rubbing issues.
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Old 12-13-2012 | 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by GeeteeDan
Found them with just the 5 holes but they're only in 18x 8.75 and are +35 offset

I forgot the guy I got em from but I know they are AZ'rs also. Or at least one of the guys there at the shop/store w/e... I will look for the contact and shoot it to ya for the 5 hole stag. fitment size opt.
Old 12-13-2012 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by JayVee
too meaty of a tire for 8.75 to go Low Low. It will rub. I have 18x8.75x18 215s upfront and 9.75's in rear with the 225/35. That si the ticket for fitment. But if u are going a mild drop (1-1.5in) and "NEED" sidewall, go for it. But the offset may give u some rubbing issues.
225/35 in rear? I was looking at ebelp's fitment and that shit looks perfect! And that's 225/40 in rear. Ughm this is confusing lol.
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And what do you guys think of hyper silver on a carbon gray pearl??
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And what do you guys think of hyper silver on a carbon gray pearl??
I was thinking of being a little different and going with the hyper silver on my SSM TL. Most everyone is going with the black chromium, which is a great color-- but I kind of like how the hyper silver would look more OEM. As I've gotten older, aside from really nice, high quality wheels, I tend to be more turned off to obvious aftermarket wheels than I used to be.

I think on carbon gray pearl the black chromium might be a better choice, but I don't think the silver would look bad.
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This is a very frustrating thread to read when you're on a network that blocks photobucket and the like.

I'm planning to drop my TL about 2" up front and 1.75" in the rear. Either by way of H&R race springs or some full coilovers. I really just want to eliminate the gap and still be able to drive my car around Baltimore without cringing every few seconds. (I live in the county, work in the city).

That said, I also don't really care for stretched tires. I'm thinking the best setup for me would be the 18x8.75 +20 with either 235/40 or 225/40 with the aforementioned drop. The most I'd be willing to do to remedy any rubbing would be a fender roll, but I'd rather not have to do that.

How do you think I'll faire with this setup? If anyone can post pics of a similar configuration using something other than flickr, photobucket, facebook, etc (I suggest upload.spankdu.com) I would be very grateful.

Thanks!!

edit: this was my 400th post. Haha. Hooray!
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Originally Posted by little brad
This is a very frustrating thread to read when you're on a network that blocks photobucket and the like.

I'm planning to drop my TL about 2" up front and 1.75" in the rear. Either by way of H&R race springs or some full coilovers. I really just want to eliminate the gap and still be able to drive my car around Baltimore without cringing every few seconds. (I live in the county, work in the city).

That said, I also don't really care for stretched tires. I'm thinking the best setup for me would be the 18x8.75 +20 with either 235/40 or 225/40 with the aforementioned drop. The most I'd be willing to do to remedy any rubbing would be a fender roll, but I'd rather not have to do that.

How do you think I'll faire with this setup? If anyone can post pics of a similar configuration using something other than flickr, photobucket, facebook, etc (I suggest upload.spankdu.com) I would be very grateful.

Thanks!!

edit: this was my 400th post. Haha. Hooray!
400th post since 2006... Does that make me a "POST WHORE" with over 2600+ in only a yr and a half?

...I like to call myself "A REGULAR" rather then a "POST WHORE" ...lol!
Old 12-13-2012 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JayVee
400th post since 2006... Does that make me a "POST WHORE" with over 2600+ in only a yr and a half?

...I like to call myself "A REGULAR" rather then a "POST WHORE" ...lol!
Haha-- well, I used to be quite active on here when I had my 03 CL-S back in 2006-2008. I sold it in order to buy a house, and after that had an integra GSR and EM2 Civic, so I wasn't around much during that time.

Then I bought my 04 TL back in 5/2011 and came back for a bit. Then that car was totaled back on December 1st of this year so I came back here looking for another car and to share my story. I found another TL and am picking it up this weekend, and since this one already has some nice mods and lower mileage, I'm going to do some things I had meant to do with my previous TL.

Storytime over! Haha. I think because of how much I'm planning to drop, I will probably need to go with 225/40 tires and possibly a mild roll? Yesh?
Old 12-13-2012 | 03:43 PM
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Storytime over! Haha. I think because of how much I'm planning to drop, I will probably need to go with 225/40 tires and possibly a mild roll? Yesh?
i went with 235/40 and have a mild drop (about 1.5") and I had to roll my rear fenders and still need to roll my front. i've posted a few times about this, but there is minor rubbing on front left during freeway dips and makes me cringe everytime
i would suggest going with the 225
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I have a 2007 TL-S and have been following this thread, for months, because I wanted to switch my XXR502s for the 530s. Probably sound selfish but I am glad I waited and let you guys experiment. If I would have bought the 18x8.75 +35 they would have hit the Brembos. The +20 would have rubbing issues and a bit of poke. Great thread still tossing around the idea of going with the +35 and using spacers. There is a question coming, I promise. Does anyone have pics of a TL-S lowered on the A-Spec suspension with these wheels in a +35 with spacers? I have searched the threads and I can't seem to locate any.
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I have a 2007 TL-S and have been following this thread, for months, because I wanted to switch my XXR502s for the 530s. Probably sound selfish but I am glad I waited and let you guys experiment. If I would have bought the 18x8.75 +35 they would have hit the Brembos. The +20 would have rubbing issues and a bit of poke. Great thread still tossing around the idea of going with the +35 and using spacers. There is a question coming, I promise. Does anyone have pics of a TL-S lowered on the A-Spec suspension with these wheels in a +35 with spacers? I have searched the threads and I can't seem to locate any.
or instead of spacers, I could have sworn I saw these available in +25 rather then +20 like I run. Basically equal to running spacers and should be flush at best or a shy less then being flush with the fender, which sounds like could be your cup of tea.
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Originally Posted by sockr1
i went with 235/40 and have a mild drop (about 1.5") and I had to roll my rear fenders and still need to roll my front. i've posted a few times about this, but there is minor rubbing on front left during freeway dips and makes me cringe everytime
i would suggest going with the 225
I ordered these a few days ago. 18 x 8 +20 w/ 225/40 tires. My car is on h&r race springs. I'm hoping this will clear with no issues as my car is in Germany and I doubt I will find somewhere to roll my fenders. If your having issues with yours I'm kinda concerned I will have a problem with rubbing. I think race springs give about 1.8 inch drop and with the 225s do you think I will rub?
Old 12-14-2012 | 06:38 AM
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I ordered these a few days ago. 18 x 8 +20 w/ 225/40 tires. My car is on h&r race springs. I'm hoping this will clear with no issues as my car is in Germany and I doubt I will find somewhere to roll my fenders. If your having issues with yours I'm kinda concerned I will have a problem with rubbing. I think race springs give about 1.8 inch drop and with the 225s do you think I will rub?
its possible u will need to roll a lil. But rolling the fenders does not take any real tech skills. I first rolled the fenders mildly just to free a small amt of space with a big socket and ratchet (GHETTO) and on youtube can be seen with baseball bats and sorts of tools. You can also a rubber mallet and a shop cloth for a lil insurance against any accidents.

But really, its no biggie and not hard to do for the amt of roll u may need. These are just some ideas letting you know its not hard to do if you just think it through and take your time since its normally not the entire fender that needs to be rolled and the TL fenders are already semi-rolled in the area needed.
Old 12-14-2012 | 06:46 AM
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The best advice for everyone that I'd give in reference to stance, fitment and height from someone that was clueless about it not too long ago is it's not an exact science. You have to just pick your wheel, offset, tire size and make it work. Every car is slightly different, and there are so many variables...camber or not, rolled or not, height, offset, what type of wheel in relation to offset, don't get overwhelmed.

PS...I think a big reason these wheels don't look cheap is the hyper black finish, I think you'd regret getting another finish.
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Old 12-14-2012 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
The best advice for everyone that I'd give in reference to stance, fitment and height from someone that was clueless about it not too long ago is it's not an exact science. You have to just pick your wheel, offset, tire size and make it work. Every car is slightly different, and there are so many variables...camber or not, rolled or not, height, offset, what type of wheel in relation to offset, don't get overwhelmed.

PS...I think a big reason these wheels don't look cheap is the hyper black finish, I think you'd regret getting another finish.
well said... This even goes true from one TL to another of the same yr. U just have to slap em on and make your adj. as you go low...low and lower till you have found the sweet spot. If you are already as low as you want to go and you purchase a aggressive stance or wheels with low offsets, you may require drastic changes immediately just to drive the car with full function. Trust me
Old 12-14-2012 | 01:24 PM
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Even after doing tons of research, I had fitment fits with the XXR 502. At the time I was going for the staggered look and didn't want to go too low or too thin on the sidewall as this is a daily driver. I went with 18x8.5 +35 wrapped with 245/40/18 in front and 18x9.5 +35 with 255/40/18 in the rear. The rears rubbed because of them big fat donuts. In retrospect I should have put the 245s on the back and 235s on the front, however, I had already run the tires, and I liked the wide stance, from the rear, although the sidewall height was a little much. I didnt want to roll so I took the rear wheels to a machine shop. After calls to XXR and some head scratching, it was decided there was plenty of mounting material and they machined 5mm off the mounting face, of the rear wheels effectively making them +40. They now fit fairly flush, with no rub. All was well until I lowered car, on the A-Spec suspension. I think the drop was about an inch but the rears now have slight rub, but only with passengers.

It's time for a change and I want to go back to the same size, all around, for rotation purposes. I found no listings for the XXR 530 18x8.75 in +25. Really stuck on this wheel for price and looks. I found this cool website www.willtheyfit.com and when I punch in the specs it shows the +20 will poke even more in the rear. So they will definately aggravate the rubbing issue. Tempting as it is to order a set of +20 and have the machine shop take off 5mm, I think going with the +35 and spacers would be best, or find a different wheel. BTW the pic, on my profile is before drop and as soon as I get new wheels the XXR 502s are for sale.
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Originally Posted by thughunter1961
I have a 2007 TL-S and have been following this thread, for months, because I wanted to switch my XXR502s for the 530s. Probably sound selfish but I am glad I waited and let you guys experiment. If I would have bought the 18x8.75 +35 they would have hit the Brembos. The +20 would have rubbing issues and a bit of poke. Great thread still tossing around the idea of going with the +35 and using spacers. There is a question coming, I promise. Does anyone have pics of a TL-S lowered on the A-Spec suspension with these wheels in a +35 with spacers? I have searched the threads and I can't seem to locate any.
Why would you buy +35 when you know it doesn't clear the brakes? Sure, you can add a spacer, but why not just buy +20? That'd be like buying a pair of jeans that your ass doesn't fit in, and then taking them to a tailor to make them fit....instead of just buying the right size waist to begin with lol. Remember, you're also losing concavity when you go +35, which is what's so great about the 530's.

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Old 12-14-2012 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ebelp
Why would you buy +35 when you know it doesn't clear the brakes? Sure, you can add a spacer, but why not just buy +20? That'd be like buying a pair of jeans that your ass doesn't fit in, and then taking them to a tailor to make them fit....instead of just buying the right size waist to begin with lol. Remember, you're also losing concavity when you go +35, which is what's so great about the 530's.
Because to my understanding, with the car dropped on an A-Spec suspension which is about one inch, the +20 will poke and rub. I do not want to roll or pull.
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Because to my understanding, with the car dropped on an A-Spec suspension which is about one inch, the +20 will poke and rub. I do not want to roll or pull.
Not for nothing... I don't think XXR had in mine when making this wheel to fit and look OEM... Just saying. Seems u want your cake and eat it to. Not gonna happen. BUY OEM ASPEC or TLS wheels! I have not seen one person here yet who has bought a aggressive "Looking" wheel and did not have to sacrifice some sort of comfort or fitment adjustments to the fender, or whatnot. I mean... "A machine shop to ADD offset"...Really? U either want it, or you don't! Respectfully speaking to ya bro.
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Originally Posted by JayVee
Not for nothing... I don't think XXR had in mine when making this wheel to fit and look OEM... Just saying. Seems u want your cake and eat it to. Not gonna happen. BUY OEM ASPEC or TLS wheels! I have not seen one person here yet who has bought a aggressive "Looking" wheel and did not have to sacrifice some sort of comfort or fitment adjustments to the fender, or whatnot. I mean... "A machine shop to ADD offset"...Really? U either want it, or you don't! Respectfully speaking to ya bro.
To answer, I don't necessarily want the OEM look. My idea was to make it more aggressive without compromising ride and drivability too much. I know there will be some compromise but this is a daily driver and I do live in Michigan where the roads suck, year around. Pot holes that could swallow an M1 tank.

Further, I do not like the rolling and pulling idea. Too much chance to do damage to the body/paint. The reason I machined the rear wheels was because I went aggressive on the rear, and and it was a viable option to rolling and pulling. As long as it does not affect the integrity of the wheel I don't think machining is any worse option than rolling etc. I would not have had to machined wheel if I had not taken someone else's advice on tire size. Also, at first I liked the look of those big 255 "steamrollers" on the rear. But now the tires are due to be replaced and it's time for a change. I think the look of rjarrett's is where I would like to go. He's running a +35 and 8mm spacer on page 18. A little more aggressive, than stock, but not so wide and low that it will rub and tear all the spoilers off on these fine @#*#!! Michigan roads.
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19's are coming out beginning next year
Thanks,will definitely be looking fwd to those.
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I think the only way to truly pull off an aftermarket wheel is to have the proper ride height and offset to sit rather flush. I didn't used to feel that way but once you realize who you love how one set looks and not another...you can't go back.

If you're only mildly lowered and don't want to put in too much work, I think an OEM wheel possibly with spacers (aspec, 5 star or the newer base rims) would look a LOT better with wheel gap than ANY aftermarket wheel.

I will admit though, I'm a snob when it comes to having the car perfectly lowered.

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Because to my understanding, with the car dropped on an A-Spec suspension which is about one inch, the +20 will poke and rub. I do not want to roll or pull.
8.75" +20 will not poke that much. With Aspec suspension, I can't imagine there will be any rubbing unless you run a really wide tire. There are several people in this thread that aren't that low and have the 8.75" +20 setup and the stance was pretty mild...that's why I decided to go 9.75" +20 for the rears, and I probably could've/should've went 9.75" up front too.

8.75" +35 look weak and boring IMO. I agree with Josh and J 100%...I think a set of Aspec wheels would look 10x better than the 530's with weak specs. PLUS, the Aspecs will not rub.
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18x8.75 +35 with 8mm spacers Tein SA 1 inche drop



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^^^ you remind me of Austin...

drop that bish a lot more....looks good...
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...and clear bra and polish the headlights on that bish!


Looks good though, I LOVE CBP. If I had that, I'd make sweet love to it. I really would. I guess then I'd end up with WDP though, huh?!

Either way, the hyper gunmetal color on that is a win/win.

Actually, CBP, with those color wheels are screaming for Bronze or Copper colored calipers. Please make a boys dreams come true!
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I guess then I'd end up with WDP though, huh?!
Most people don't know, but the P in WDP is short for Pearl Necklace.
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Old 12-20-2012 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by sockr1
i got my wheels installed with 235/40 tires on Friday and it looks great but I'm having some issues going over dips in the road or bumps. one of my tires def makes a bad scraping sound anyone else have this problem?

i'm stock height which is why the rubbing surprised me but soon putting on springs and getting an alignment. maybe i'll just have to roll fenders to eliminate any doubt. these wheels with the +20 definitely stick out just a bit more than i was hoping in the front
sockr1 post from page 16 18x8.75 +20 rub at stock height and poke. +35 hit the Brembos. So with these wheels it's either spacers or roll and pull. IMO rjarrett, and his CBP, has a great look. Perfect amount of drop, different from stock but not too aggressive. But then again, I'm an old man I can deal with a little fender gaposis in favor of drivability.

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I don't understand how anything can rub at stock height unless you bought tires that were way too wide, way too tall, or both.
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Old 12-20-2012 | 12:01 PM
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Jeremy, you better jump on the "SUV tires on the TL" band wagon....

all the cool kids are doing it
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