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Old 05-01-2012, 07:55 PM
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so glad i went w the teins advance
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Was looking thru the manual looks like pre-load should be around 6 7/8" or 175mm. That is measurements of the spring itself.
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Originally Posted by teckademics gtr
ohh ok i guess im starting to get pumped again...can you give me a rundown on how excatly to adjust height once on the car..im still a little confused about that...thanks!
Once you get the coils in your hand it's pretty easy to figure out.
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Originally Posted by Deerole
so glad i went w the teins advance
Why's that? The Teins still take more work to get installed because you have to disassemble your stock shocks to reuse the oem top hats.
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so i checked mine, ones in the right position the other one is not. so they both are supposed to be 2 on the right one bolt on the left correct?
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thats what i got
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Talk about close call. I opt this group buy because I became impatient. I would have lost it if I would of gotten these! Good luck to everyone. Hope no other issues arouse out of these coils down the line.
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No problem! I still don't think we're on the same page though. If you lowered the bottom shock collar all the way, you were making the overall coilover length longer, meaning you were making the car taller. You need to thread the lower shock collar onto the shock body, not away from it!

Plus, if you were as low as you could go on these coilovers, your rims would be tucked about an inch up in the wheel wells. I still have at least an inch lower I could go on mine and I'm sitting lower than you:



Jack you car back up, make sure the spring preload is set, and then adjust that lower collar (the opposite direction) and your car will be slammed in no time. Remember, if you want to make the car lower, make the overall length of the coilover assembly shorter.
Noo I meant I lowered the shock part into the body all the way down. Yes I am tucking about 1" of tire, unfortunately that is not enough for me . Hopefully once I put my wheels on it'll sit perfect. I was just waiting for the suspension to settle and I think I noticed it. Now I just need to decide which wheels to put on . That preload I did not know about so when I go to put on my wheels Friday I will adjust that. Thanks!


Originally Posted by teckademics gtr
ohh ok i guess im starting to get pumped again...can you give me a rundown on how excatly to adjust height once on the car..im still a little confused about that...thanks!
This post that was 20 posts up from your post should post a solution to the question in your post.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSB4pB4bUME
Found that link useful for adjustments and understanding of them lol. My Tein's only had one way to adjust if I remember correctly so I did not notice the difference.
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Originally Posted by sunny201
Noo I meant I lowered the shock part into the body all the way down. Yes I am tucking about 1" of tire, unfortunately that is not enough for me . Hopefully once I put my wheels on it'll sit perfect. I was just waiting for the suspension to settle and I think I noticed it. Now I just need to decide which wheels to put on . That preload I did not know about so when I go to put on my wheels Friday I will adjust that. Thanks!
Then I'm confused because you can tuck rim, not just 1" of tire. You should be able to drop it a lot lower than you currently sit. Post pics of your coilovers Friday. I'm curious how you have it set up.
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This is really a shit show open mine an same problem. I waited to long for these to wait again for a solution I'm returning. Not gonna modifier a new item not happening
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Wow... I'm somewhat glad I didn't jumped on this GB
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Originally Posted by StiCkY~RiCe
Wow... I'm somewhat glad I didn't jumped on this GB
Its seriously not that bad.

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^^^ totally agree of course it's gonna rub everyone the wrong way that a modification had to be done but this is a very simple process and mine are ready to install today with all the studs.
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Originally Posted by primus
This is really a shit show open mine an same problem. I waited to long for these to wait again for a solution I'm returning. Not gonna modifier a new item not happening
Multiple 5-minute solutions have been posted in this thread, so no waiting is required. It's your money, but mailing them back and waiting for a refund and then reordering another set of coilovers doesn't really support your, "I've waited too long..." comment.

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Wow... I'm somewhat glad I didn't jumped on this GB
Why??
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Then I'm confused because you can tuck rim, not just 1" of tire. You should be able to drop it a lot lower than you currently sit. Post pics of your coilovers Friday. I'm curious how you have it set up.
Maybe I don't have it all the way down then, I guess I'll find out Friday hopefully, but I was almost certain the shock was screwed into that bottom piece as far down as possible to where I couldn't turn it anymore.


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Its seriously not that bad.
It seriously isn't, but I understand why people are mad because it is a brand new set that was designed for our specific car. I spent about 30 minutes trying to figure out what can be done, which should take everybody not even 15 minutes now. Then again, I didn't want to wait anymore and just wanted to be back to the low life
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Why??
Because I would probably freak out
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Originally Posted by StiCkY~RiCe
Because I would probably freak out
lol...someone is selling a set in the BM for cheap. Buy them and I'll fix the top plate issue for you...everyone wins.
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Originally Posted by sunny201
I spent about 30 minutes trying to figure out what can be done, which should take everybody not even 15 minutes now. Then again, I didn't want to wait anymore and just wanted to be back to the low life
You've got the right attitude for working to find a solution on your own. I think it's crazy that anyone would want a full refund after they've waited so long for what is arguably one of the nicest sets of coilovers on the market. When life hands you lemons, make lemonade.
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^^^ @ quoting Charlie
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Originally Posted by ebelp
You've got the right attitude for working to find a solution on your own. I think it's crazy that anyone would want a full refund after they've waited so long for what is arguably one of the nicest sets of coilovers on the market. When life hands you lemons, make lemonade.
Not sure about everybody else, but I am sending mine back for exchange, not refund. ISC appears to make a decent set of coilovers and you just can't beat the price. However, with first the mis-drilled plate and second the mysterious cut ring, I will only be confident in the quality of the item again once the vendor examines the next batch. I don't mind waiting to get them done right.
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^^^ @ quoting Charlie
How about, "life is like a box of chocolates..."
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So since one of my coils are right my problem solving process is then sliced in half. So instead of taking 15 minutes i will only take 7 1/2!
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Originally Posted by TripAcez
So since one of my coils are right my problem solving process is then sliced in half. So instead of taking 15 minutes i will only take 7 1/2!
Everyone has one right and one upside down. I'm guessing the manufacturer thought that the left and right sides were different which I wouldn't be surprised bc I would think the same. I would be certain though when I'm spending money to make them lol.
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I've never known suspension on Hondas to be left/right specific...only front/rear specific. I could be wrong though...fwiw...
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Originally Posted by ebelp
I've never known suspension on Hondas to be left/right specific...only front/rear specific. I could be wrong though...fwiw...
The TL was technically my first car, the first car I've modded, and the car that I've learned everything I know on. So when I say things its mostly what I think not what I know, unless I've done it on my car lol. I know that the control arms are L/R specific, so I wouldn't have been surprised if the suspension was too, but that is not the case. I was just saying that it's something that can be a possibility for confusion. Nonetheless, they are still wrong and should've had more care into it before shipping out. Then again, this is the first time they are making suspension for a Honda.
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Originally Posted by ebelp
I've never known suspension on Hondas to be left/right specific...only front/rear specific. I could be wrong though...fwiw...
I checked on my TSX, and the front suspension is left/right specific. Hopefully my coils will be ok
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Originally Posted by ebelp
Why's that? The Teins still take more work to get installed because you have to disassemble your stock shocks to reuse the oem top hats.
True but beats the long wait everyone went tru and the slight issue that came up as oppose to the top hats swap
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Originally Posted by Deerole
True but beats the long wait everyone went tru and the slight issue that came up as oppose to the top hats swap
Still cheaper than Teins :P
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We have the manufacturer machining new top hats as we speak. Once we get more info and a better ETA we will provide that update. I would expect between machine time and shipping (will be sent express) it will take about a week to two. Since the manufacturer is in Taiwan even express shipping takes a week. Sorry for the inconvenience. We will get this resolved.

For reference, we did email and call numerous times to resolve the issue (for those that have questioned so).
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See....nothing to worry about...Josh got it under control
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Originally Posted by Deerole
True but beats the long wait everyone went tru and the slight issue that came up as oppose to the top hats swap
Good things come to those who wait...um...just a little bit longer!?

I honestly think that the slight issue with this is just that...slight. I could see a mistake like this happening with the same thought as mentioned where I would think there is a left a right side to this setup rather than a front and rear. The immediate way to solve the issue has been listed for those who choose to. For the rest of you, whining about the obvious does not fix the issue. I am sure XLR8 in conjunction with ISC will correct the issue otherwise.

I have a feeling that these will ultimately not only be worth the initial wait over the teins, but also the additional wait, if it comes to swapping ISC top hats, to have a suspension that seems thus far to be superior to the SS in every way...sans wait time!

But I digress as I have not installed mine yet...
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Originally Posted by teckademics gtr
ok here is what i am talking about if you see one coil has a cut all the way around in the middle and the other one is just one piece....ill tell ya what though i am def not modifying or taking apart my brand new coilovers if nothing can be done a full refund is in order..

[IMG] IMG_1105 by teckademics, on Flickr[/IMG]

[IMG] IMG_1104 by teckademics, on Flickr[/IMG]
Josh - is the manufacturer also addressing this issue (i.e., the cut all the way around the coil)? Or is there some other simple answer? Also, what kind of general quality control is being performed by the manufacturer and by you on arrival. Thanks!
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^ I was also wondering about that, mine are the same way.
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^ I was also wondering about that, mine are the same way.
+2, I was going to post the same thing too, but VicTL06 beat me to it.
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Josh - is the manufacturer also addressing this issue (i.e., the cut all the way around the coil)? Or is there some other simple answer? Also, what kind of general quality control is being performed by the manufacturer and by you on arrival. Thanks!
I've asked them about the ring. It doesn't matter about the ring but I'd like some clarification as to why it's on one side. The manufacturer does QC checks on the shocks, springs, assembly, etc. Keep in mind we sent them a top hat specifically for the US TL; they might have based the top mount orientation on the top mounts they have for Honda/Acuras in Taiwan. I'm assuming they thought the front left and right would be inverted. They obviously were wrong. It's a minor issue but it's still an issue so we're getting all the kinks ironed out now.

We are not inspecting each coilover because the manufacturer does that and it shouldn't need to be done by us also. Additionally, there was immense pressure to ship these immediately so I shipped out dozens of these on Friday and it took over 6 hours to ship out all the coilovers, make the invoices, and generate shipping labels. With inspections the shipping process would have been delayed at least 2 days.
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[QUOTE=The Machine;13748662]+3, same concerns
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I've asked them about the ring. It doesn't matter about the ring but I'd like some clarification as to why it's on one side. The manufacturer does QC checks on the shocks, springs, assembly, etc. Keep in mind we sent them a top hat specifically for the US TL; they might have based the top mount orientation on the top mounts they have for Honda/Acuras in Taiwan. I'm assuming they thought the front left and right would be inverted. They obviously were wrong. It's a minor issue but it's still an issue so we're getting all the kinks ironed out now.

We are not inspecting each coilover because the manufacturer does that and it shouldn't need to be done by us also. Additionally, there was immense pressure to ship these immediately so I shipped out dozens of these on Friday and it took over 6 hours to ship out all the coilovers, make the invoices, and generate shipping labels. With inspections the shipping process would have been delayed at least 2 days.
Thank you for the explanation and looking into the issues further. All in all that's all we can ask for and we appreciate you getting back to us promptly about it.
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^^^ first photo of my car I've ever posted online ever!!!
Def need to raise the back up. The camber as at -3 degrees in the back!!
First impression is they ride really smooth I have them set 8 clicks from
Hard in front and 10 clicks in back. I feel I'm gonna make it a couple clicks harder.
They ride good tho I'm happy with the purchase even with the mistake.

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Thank you for the explanation and looking into the issues further. All in all that's all we can ask for and we appreciate you getting back to us promptly about it.
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