CEL flashes 5x in "Acc" position, car will not start.

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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 10:36 AM
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CEL flashes 5x in "Acc" position, car will not start.

Aside from my rear brake problem thread that I can not respond to, my car won't start now. It started to click a lot, then just stopped, that's when I replaced the solenoid on the starter. I go and put the starter back in hoping the car starts and it still won't start. No clicking but everything else works. Lights, radio, etc.

Battery checked out good at autozone. I was reading a lot of threads on here about the starter being good and battery being good but still won't start. No one has given a straight response about what the problem is or could be when both starter and battery are good. Most threads insist it's still the starter.

The CEL also stays on in Acc position when I stop trying to start the car, then it will flash 5 times and go away. I don't have access to a code reader nor can I take my car to autozone because it won't start! A little lost now.
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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 11:26 AM
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Check the battery cables/terminals. Its a fairly common issue for fray/corrosion to happen (I believe on the positive cable/terminal specifically). Follow them completely and make sure their integrity is still good.
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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 12:07 PM
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no trying to turn over at all?
I would say it may be crank sensor or cam sensor but those both try to start.

be aware tho, this happened on my rsx a few years back when i changed the started an it was still giving trouble, turns out the 'new' starter was defective.
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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 01:00 PM
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Nope, nothing. Just a buzzing noise coming from under the steering column. Is there a main relay that can go bad? I took off the kick panel that exposes all the fuses and other relays. There's no relay that actually says "Main" on it like older model cars, but there is a print on the "fuse panel" for the lack of a better explanation, that says "Main" next to a relay. Is that the one? Kinda small, has 4 prongs, does not look like it would be it. I'll attach a pic and if anyone can show me which one is the main relay, maybe i can buy one and try it out.

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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 10:11 AM
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The "Main" print i'm referring to on the fuse holder is the 2nd brown relay/fuse. I doubt that's it...but I need some help. No threads I read have to actually pointed out what was the actual solution..
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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 10:50 AM
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There's an IGI Main (ignition?) in the under hood fuse box.


You can look up fuse locations/descriptions here:

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/j-020-3g-acura-tl-owners-manual-navi-manual-warranty-booklet-pdfs-851625/
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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 11:35 AM
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hope you get your car back soon.

my car is always on jack stands.
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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 10:31 PM
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What would a clicking noise coming from under the passenger side dash mean?
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 3GNBPTL
What would a clicking noise coming from under the passenger side dash mean?

Bad relay?
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 04:21 PM
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not enough juice from the battery is always to be suspected in this car
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by pohljm
not enough juice from the battery is always to be suspected in this car
I tried a different battery and even tried jumping it, no luck. I have it on bypass right now. Two alligator clips, one to stater and one to battery just to give it a kick start so I can drive it to a dealership possibly. I found a dealer manual online and I just downloaded it so I"ll be checking for all starting related fuses/relays to eliminate the small stuff first.
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Old Oct 1, 2012 | 11:12 AM
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Yeah man Honda/Acura are great in every area except the following: automatic transmissions, sensors and relays.
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Old Oct 8, 2012 | 09:05 PM
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Does your car just completely shut off (ie all lights etc. once you try to start it?) I am experiencing the same issue. Battery is fine, just tested with the multimeter and its reading 13.5 V which should be enough to start it but it wont. I can get the lights and radio etc. to work but as soon as I try to start it everything shuts off

Any ideas?
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by lucnex
Does your car just completely shut off (ie all lights etc. once you try to start it?) I am experiencing the same issue. Battery is fine, just tested with the multimeter and its reading 13.5 V which should be enough to start it but it wont. I can get the lights and radio etc. to work but as soon as I try to start it everything shuts off

Any ideas?
I would check all fuses first. Was the car misfiring the last time you drove it?
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Old Oct 19, 2012 | 02:26 AM
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Nothing shuts off, everything works as normal, except when I try to turn over, I just get a buzzing noise from the relay, not sure if that's a sign of bad relay or not, but no straight shot answer on that either. Still won't start normally. I've been jump starting the TL with a wire and two alligator clips, on on the starter and one to the battery. Everytime I need to start, I just touch the positive and it'll fire right up then I clip the alligator clip on the plastic battery tray and go about my business lol.
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