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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 05:53 PM
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 07:29 PM
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lol.. man, you guys are too funny

on a more serious note, i believe even with the m62 a SC'd j35a8 can easily put down a solid 380ish whp, WITH using stock size pulley (and the right supporting mods of course).. seems like the few who has attempted this so far, stopped short of a few mods and/or cheaped out to achieve this realistic goal.. and when i say a few mods, i mean the important stuff like engine management, meth injection and a good tune.

then when you throw this JandR ecu in the mix, HBP, bigger meth nozzle, fuel pump and injector size upgrade, achieving 400whp+ would be more of a reality, than a dream..
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 01:37 AM
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this site is so awesome..... I don't rep my brand first, i just don't think local shops should shit on local shops, and i don't think its right that he pays 60 bucks a month, so he can think he is an acura expert. and his posts won't get deleted, i have helped every acura guy i have meet, and didn't treat broke asses like dirty civic kids.
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 01:49 AM
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and at the time of the build 3-4 years ago, there we no tuning options Hondata had one but it blew cars up, the only other option was motec, and as for the 380 hp mark it was very doable, but again at the time of the build there were no clutch options, and adding more power would have made the car unrealistic to drive. now you can get a clutch and a tune. but we have moved on to different projects. Bashing the build or us is really pointless. We built it, the car moved on probably to some dirty civic kid that thought it was a race car. last we saw the car it was online in St. Louis for sale. that is not CT. We only found out about the car because 900 people called asking if we thought they should buy the car?
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 01:57 AM
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It is not called bashing, it is called setting your facts straight.
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by subsonicman
and at the time of the build 3-4 years ago, there we no tuning options Hondata had one but it blew cars up, the only other option was motec, and as for the 380 hp mark it was very doable, but again at the time of the build there were no clutch options, and adding more power would have made the car unrealistic to drive. now you can get a clutch and a tune. but we have moved on to different projects. Bashing the build or us is really pointless. We built it, the car moved on probably to somebodysz dirty civic kid that thought it was a race car. last we saw the car it was online in St. Louis for sale. that is not CT. We only found out about the car because 900 people called asking if we thought they should buy thecmu car?
Cmon man... tuning was definitely around for our cars even 6 years ago and if the j35 fw is the same as the j32, then so has a clutch kit too. I give you guys an A for being pioneers, but a huge F for doing little to no research whatsoever.

At the time i installed my SC on my 7th Gen accord 10/06 I was the first on the planet to do so. On the Comptech site at the time, they advertised the 3rd gen tl kit and in bold writing, it said " WILL NOT FIT 7TH GEN ACCORD" lol.. after getting a custom radiator, i some how found a tuning solution (had to since I was 3.0 at the time, and didn't really didn't see using the pos ACM as an option anyways) I also found a clutch kit to hold the extra power too.. Meth injection kit was also installed and tuned back in 08.. Its amazing how much stuff you can find, you thought would have never of existed by doing a little thing called research

I remember reading your thread awhile back and laughed at how much time you guys spent modding and desperately trying to get that ACM to work with the larger dissplacement LOL, while a tuning solution was right underneath your nose the whole time.. so saying stuff like it didnt exist when you were attempting this project blah blahblah.. is laughable and not to mention pure laziness on your part..next time do your homework or give up the mod game. Cause where there's a will, there is always a way, no half assing and no excuses allowed

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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 08:33 AM
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^ the flywheel teeth are not the same on J35 compared to j32 so no real J35 clutch but then people literally removed the rings and put them on a j32 clutch to make it work.. Also, i dont think the FIC was cracked at the time and Paul and someone else was at the brink of creating their own management system to fix the open/closed loop issue the FIC was having. I remember seeing the s/c'ed Black TL-S at a heckscher meet. The guy was real cool and wasn't trying to shit on anyone. I think the website just needs to be updated and made sure it says BACK IN 2009... Alot of changes have come since his build so i wouldnt shit on these guys.
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 02:43 PM
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i just get irritated when he said these options werent available at the time, otherwise insinuating the build could have took a step in the right direction if they were.

all im saying is both were available at the time and he seems to be using this excuse for the poor numbers and not being able to tap into the cars full potential. i gaurantee people with the type-s woud have followed suite and there would quite a few more SC'd type s's this site, if they werent mis-lead into believing these things. on the clutch issue, if it was just a matter of teeth count, the stock ring gear could have easily been installed on the CM FW. i found that out myself and past the info down to others that had the starter noise problem.

as for tuning, again i was the first to do so successfully and able to adjust af ratios to safe reliable levels and achieve more hp thoughout the powerband... from day one, to the day i sold my entire SC setup, i never had a chance to go down and get my car tuned for closed loop. for me, as long as cruising was good and spot on at WOT, thats all that mattered for DD. closed loop tuning is more of a comfort thing at mid/half throttle, than a reliability issue.

in the end, it just sounded like they lacked heart and gave up to easily to get the job done right.. for me, thats inexcusable :/

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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 02:49 PM
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 05:05 PM
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I saw that tl at the Hecksher meet too. The dude was cool talking to everyone about the build. I remember he came down with Carrielynn and some other peeps. It just amazes how quickly jump the gun on posts, comments and such.. It's like everyone doesnt want to hear the other side of the story around here.
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by swoosh
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there is a dip when the vtec engages on NA cars....not sure about FI applications....also in a NA car is you set the vtec @5K rpm, your torque curve becomes more of a torque line
There is no slight dip b4 vtec and surge after vtec x-over on f/i hondas. I remember back in 2000 when my buddy put on a JRSC on his 00' Integra GS-R, you no longer heard the vtec engage nor did you feel that surge after vtec engaged which this dyno definitely shows.
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 10:33 PM
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Do it and tell me if it works
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 11:39 PM
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kingkong_dav posted. I'm outta here. GL to all!
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ParaSurfer1979
There is no slight dip b4 vtec and surge after vtec x-over on f/i hondas. I remember back in 2000 when my buddy put on a JRSC on his 00' Integra GS-R, you no longer heard the vtec engage nor did you feel that surge after vtec engaged which this dyno definitely shows.
aah....i didnt know about the FI cars and hence didnt comment

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kingkong_dav posted. I'm outta here. GL to all!


he actually helped in a different thread dude....somewhere i had a feeling he was trying to get attention and then start helping.....exactly how Justnspace got famous....first troll and then get better and help out....
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 01:04 AM
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Old Apr 8, 2012 | 09:39 AM
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So at the end of the day can a 07 tl type s be supercharged with today's technology or is it still a maybe? Hey guys I don't post here a lot I just read and I have learned a lot and to be honest this thread is the most up to date thread on sc that I could find and I don't want it to stop here and thanks everybody for all the helpful hints, advice, and info. Acurazine is the best website I've found - you know next to porn lol
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Old Jan 20, 2014 | 09:05 AM
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im in the middle of charging the S. stay tuned.
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Old Jan 20, 2014 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by kingkong_dav
im in the middle of charging the S. stay tuned.
yes please. very interested in more reliable power without turbo
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Old Jan 20, 2014 | 09:31 PM
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Hispeed, i need to fabricate a custom cold air, which parts did you use. what degree elbow, what pipes and what size. help me out brotha
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Old Jan 20, 2014 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by kingkong_dav
Hispeed, i need to fabricate a custom cold air, which parts did you use. what degree elbow, what pipes and what size. help me out brotha
This might help,

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/supercharger-cold-air-intake-modification-photos-595214/

Originally Posted by ACCURATEin
This modification is extremely custom....

-The black rubber 90 degree flex pipe is off a BMW.
-Breather hose from Autozone
-90 degree piping down into fender is an AEM Short ram intake for an 02-03 WRX.
-Reducer coupling from 04 Acura TL Injen CAI
-45 degree bend from EBAY intake off old school Accord
-Filter and reducer inlet from 04 Acura TL Injen CAI


This design allows for:
- Easier access to battery and other components
- Frees up engine bay space
- Cooler air temperatures into blower unit

The notorious 'whine' from the blower has been increased by 200% (it sounds bad ass)

More prone to hydrolocking
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Old Jan 20, 2014 | 11:24 PM
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https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/pics-custom-sc-intake-869201/
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Old Jan 21, 2014 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by kingkong_dav
Hispeed, i need to fabricate a custom cold air, which parts did you use. what degree elbow, what pipes and what size. help me out brotha
LOL your comment in that thread about the rug hahahaha
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Old Jan 21, 2014 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by PC_Jona
yes please. very interested in more reliable power without turbo
IMO, those of you guys wanting to whine, stay tuned on Andy's thread. He has a very promising strategy on using the centrifugal Rotrex blower alongside adaptative mounts. It is known that Rotrex is known for generating high boost levels with low boost temps compared to the standard roots/screw style blowers and turbos that are known for producing detonation prone intake temperatures. And trust me, unless you know a considerable amount on tuning forced induction engines, detonation isn't something you want to deal with if you plan on running anything above 10lbs....and on the j-series, you WILL when going not much further above that.

I run a hybrid 3.7 setup on my Accord and before that, I ran a bone stock j35a8 from an 05 RL. I've ran boost on both and have learned quite a bit since then. These engines (like many) don't like boost and high temps. Reliability and overall user friendliness comes from keeping both of those at a minimum. Seems like when I decided to go above 12lbs, thats when I had to turn up my game on tuning and additional safety/monitoring equipment just to feel better about it.

I'll end with saying this, its gets expensive FAST when you get above that safe zone of or around 10lbs. Im not saying that this is the standard level for everyones engine but it seems to be a common thing I've seen with the j-series. If you wanna play, play easy. Cause your TL or Accord will turn into a money pit like you never thought possible.
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 06:39 AM
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^ Civic SI on DOHC platform can withstand it, so can the SOHC 11.1 compression.
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