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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 07:20 AM
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Supercharged TL Type S

has anyone heard of subsonic motorsports out of norwich ct?

http://subsonicmotorsports.com/Super..._TL_Type_S.php

their supercharged tl type s is really peaking my interest
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 07:23 AM
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The fact that they are using the ACM from CT would turn me away.

They apparently aren't members here. It won't be the most powerful TL-S in existence.

Either way, it isn't going to be cheap.

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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by KN_TL
. It won't be the most powerful TL-S in existence.
yea that part of it doesnt interest me
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 07:33 AM
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so what does pique your interest?
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 07:36 AM
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the fact that it was done to a 3.5 engine, hows it running, any issues, what ecu did comptech go with, etc
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by greekdaddy000
the fact that it was done to a 3.5 engine, hows it running, any issues, what ecu did comptech go with, etc
You should do more research. My comment on the ACM is what they are using. It's a half assed solution to engine management.
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by KN_TL
You should do more research. My comment on the ACM is what they are using. It's a half assed solution to engine management.
quoted for truth.


on this here very forum, we have the ideas and solutions!
stick around! you might learn a thing or two!
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 08:05 AM
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"We partnered up with CT Engineering
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 10:25 AM
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^^ Ikr lol
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 10:28 AM
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there is a N/A type-s 6MT that is hitting the 300whp mark.

in a couple of months he should be at 320ish.
Naturally aspirated!!!!!!!!!!!

the dyno in that link shows 321whp, albeit an all wheel drive dyno, but i digress.
if some one can make 320hp naturally aspirated, what does that tell you about this supercharged build?
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 11:38 AM
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It looks like you are a CT resident; we are located in New Haven County, CT. If you're interested in making more power or want the CT-E supercharger kit please email me at sales@excelerateperformance.com

We can help you achieve your hp goals and we have far more experience with CT-E products. Also we can upgrade the fuel management system to another option other than the ACM.
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 11:51 AM
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Read this.
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/picking-up-07-type-s-supercharged-weekend-822712/
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 11:54 AM
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You should do more research. My comment on the ACM is what they are using. It's a half assed solution to engine management.
pardon my knowledge of all things acronyms...another thread is calling it an ecu.
so tell me, what does acm stand for? cause acronym.com has 138 items listed for ACM

Originally Posted by Dino81
thanks

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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by greekdaddy000
pardon my knowledge of all things acronyms...another thread is calling it an ecu.
so tell me, what does acm stand for? cause acronym.com has 138 items listed for ACM
http://www.ct-engineering.com/Produc...3/Default.aspx

It's all at the tips of your fingers.
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by KN_TL
http://www.ct-engineering.com/Produc...3/Default.aspx

It's all at the tips of your fingers.
wow theyve finally created a new site!

Originally Posted by Excelerate
It looks like you are a CT resident; we are located in New Haven County, CT. If you're interested in making more power or want the CT-E supercharger kit please email me at sales@excelerateperformance.com

We can help you achieve your hp goals and we have far more experience with CT-E products. Also we can upgrade the fuel management system to another option other than the ACM.
Josh
I was at your shop about two months ago to get my RSB installed after the group buy.
Which way do you recommend I go for power...F/I (supercharger) or bolt ons (exhaust, jpipe, intake, etc)?

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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 01:15 PM
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^it depend on how much power you want.
what are your goals for the car?

in your other thread, you were concerned with $ to hp ratio.
so which is it? you can shell out about $4-7k for the supercharger and hit the power limit of 320hp.
or for about $7k you can turbocharge and net about 400-450hp.

or fully bolt on and make 320hp.
swoosh has laid out all the details for you in your other thread.


Originally Posted by swoosh
LOL this is the price breakdown....how much did swoosh spend

AEM intake with bigger filter: $200 (back then they were cheap )
Moores Performance TB spacer: $50
Bored TB: $100
Bored Manifold and runners: $250
All Gaskets: $100
Bored MDX spacer: $50
PCD's: $250 (BM FTW )
Exhaust: $1800 round figure incase i missed something out
ECU + mods: $1800 (you can get the ECU by itself for 1225 )

Total: $4600
Gains: stock 5at is ~210hp and hoping am close to ~290 after ECU, so lets say 70hp

Turbo:
There is a GB going on right now:
Full turbo kit: $5600
ECU: $1225
Install (assuming you are not a DIY kinda guy + other expenses if any): $1000

Total: $7800
Gains: Atleast 230-250hp

you figure out whats a better deal
Originally Posted by greekdaddy000
you, my man, are awesome! I really appreciate the breakdown.
So, you see, it really depends on YOUR goals and YOUR financial situation.
What do you want out of your car?

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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 01:21 PM
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^it depend on how much power you want.
what are your goals for the car?

in your other thread, you were concerned with $ to hp ratio.
so which is it? you can shell out about $4-7k for the supercharger and hit the power limit of 320hp.
or for about $7k you can turbocharge and net about 400-450hp.

or fully bolt on and make 320hp.
swoosh has laid out all the details for you in your other thread.
josh....from excelerate?
in the other thread we were mainly talking about a turbo setup because i didnt realize that the ct supercharger would fit the 3.5 type s, so it is a bit more affordable now.
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 01:24 PM
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^you'll want the J&R ECU if you go the supercharger route.
the ECU is $1300.00

Swoosh still laid out the price of bolt ons. which applies to you, since you asked
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 02:43 PM
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LMFAO on the fastest TL in the world part LOL....with 321 horses he is prolly slower than couple bolted on Type S.....

baah didnt read the thread....

Andy's type S is at 300 without cams and stuff bolted on....he will be hitting 340 after 2-3 mods
Juams type s is at 300 bolted on....he will be in that range as well....both are NA

this supercharger website is a joke....
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by greekdaddy000
Josh
I was at your shop about two months ago to get my RSB installed after the group buy.
Which way do you recommend I go for power...F/I (supercharger) or bolt ons (exhaust, jpipe, intake, etc)?
It depends on your budget and hp goals. If you want a lot of power get the turbo kit; if you want a daily drive than picks up another 40-50 hp get the bolt ons.
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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 10:52 PM
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A properly built N/A setup will pull from idle to redline very very smooth.
If you can pull a flat torque curve then N/A is the only way to go. My opinion for sure but thats how I feel.

235 N/A ponies to the wheels on a 2200 pound car was damn sure fun!!!!
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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 11:44 PM
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Why don't your read some more before you start another thread.
All the information is here on the forum for those who wish to read and learn.

If you did a search for "supercharger" you would see how abysmal your original post really was.
Why not do some research for yourself instead of expecting others to answer your every question on demand?

I recommend subjecting new member threads to approval by a moderator before they are posted.

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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 04:38 PM
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$250 for a custom intake...
321hp with 3.3lbs of boost and VERY VERY safe AF. No AUDIBLE DETONATION.
Full of shit.

Acurazine.com FTW. You'll be faster,smarter, and get parts at their cheapest.( i originally wrote "more money in your pocket" but we all know we all spend more because it never stops)
Excelerate is also a great guy to work with and get parts from.
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The custom gauge panel is complete and is ready to ship.
It is available in raw unfinished fiber glass for $99.95.
Or vinyl wrapped in a color of your choice for $150.

seriously ?
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is it me or does that dyno graph look wrong? isnt there supposed to be a slight dip for when vtec engauges ?
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^^^

there is a dip when the vtec engages on NA cars....not sure about FI applications....also in a NA car is you set the vtec @5K rpm, your torque curve becomes more of a torque line
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there is a dip when the vtec engages on NA cars....not sure about FI applications....also in a NA car is you set the vtec @5K rpm, your torque curve becomes more of a torque line
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Originally Posted by Excelerate
It depends on your budget and hp goals. If you want a lot of power get the turbo kit; if you want a daily drive than picks up another 40-50 hp get the bolt ons.
So..is a turbo not good for daily driving?
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 06:13 PM
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^^^ I doubt thats what Josh meant....

Turbo cars require a little more maintenance that the NA....as a matter of fact any FI cars would need a tad bit more maintenance....

so if you plan on driving 40K miles a year, get the bolt on unless you have deep pockets.....else just go the turbo route which gets you in the 400's from a 210-ish stock HP for about 7G's.....which i feel is NOT BAD AT ALL....
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Originally Posted by NIGHTEHAWK
So..is a turbo not good for daily driving?
You can tune the turbo for any power level you want. It all depends how much boost you allow. With the J&R ECU, the turbo equipped TL is easier to drive than in stock form.

Maintenance wise, if you are used to changing oil every 3K Mi, then there nothing else other than methanol if you choose to install a injection kit. I also choose to run Redline which is more expensive.

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Originally Posted by NIGHTEHAWK
So..is a turbo not good for daily driving?
I have two daily drivers with forced induction. Both require more maintenance than vehicles that do not have forced induction from the factory. It is just part of modifying your vehicle and achieving higher hp levels. It's not that a vehicle with F/I cannot be a daily driver; it can. You just have to keep up with the maintenance.
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I have heard of Subsonic Motorsports

Any way to get to the point, I used a modified CT-E ACM to tune the TL Type S. Because at the time there were no other alternatives. I still have not seen any tunes on the type S that don't take away from the car.

We installed the Kit on a Stockish type S we put up 328 hp on the 6 pound pulley making 3.2 pounds.

We then installed the 8 pound pulley and we made 5 pounds of boost, we made 362hp a fully modded Type S makes 300 hp (See Blackura)

Since the First one, We have done one other car, and talked to a hundred dreamers. The Type S car had safe air fuels, and has been to many meets.

Subsonic Motorsports is a small shop the knows performance and knows cars. we do not specialize in internet sales, and we don't bite other peoples shit

We can help you achieve your hp goals and we have far more experience with CT-E products. Also we can upgrade the fuel management system to another option other than the ACM.
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 03:41 AM
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First you heard about them than you're talking like you are them with the same username as the shop. Then you try to advertise your own brand which isn't allowed. Psst
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 09:06 AM
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Hey, everybody. That supercharged TL-s was mine. I drove that thing through every type of weather. EVERY DAY!!! Never had ANY problems with it. NOT A SINGLE ONE!!!! I boosted it, then got tired of it, so I sold it. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. And as far as Subsonicman goes, he and I own Subsonic Motorsports in Norwich, CT. If you have any questions, ask him or I, and we will be glad to help you out.
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 09:08 AM
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there is a better engine management available.
I would chose J&R over anything subsonic.
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by TLove It!
"We partnered up with CT Engineering
to bring you the Fastest TL Type S in the world!!!!!"

It was the fastest TL around in 2009. Ask anyone who rode in it. Everybody was just doin the pcd's and intake and exhaust. Nobody had cams, intakes, or even conidered boring out parts that belonged on other cars, so that statement was accurate at the time.
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
there is a better engine management available.
I would chose J&R over anything subsonic.
At that time there was no other engine management options, so we took what we had and ran with it.
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by s_heng_62
It was the fastest TL around in 2009. Ask anyone who rode in it. Everybody was just doin the pcd's and intake and exhaust. Nobody had cams, intakes, or even conidered boring out parts that belonged on other cars, so that statement was accurate at the time.
Point taken, my apologies. Still, fastest in the World is a pretty bold statement. But congrats on the success and I'll have to take a ride up there sometime.
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Originally Posted by s_heng_62
It was the fastest TL around in 2009. Ask anyone who rode in it. Everybody was just doin the pcd's and intake and exhaust. Nobody had cams, intakes, or even conidered boring out parts that belonged on other cars, so that statement was accurate at the time.
Incorrect. Even Opel's supercharged BASE TL was faster.

And also check the beginning of the turbo thread, not 'everybody' was doing "pcd's and intake and exhaust".
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 01:42 PM
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I thought you blew the engine and kept crashing it then sold it to a dealer who replaced the engine and blew it up again. I could be wrong but, I remember a member looking at a SC type-s at the dealer that wouldn't rev past 4k and I thought they said it was yours.


Originally Posted by s_heng_62
Hey, everybody. That supercharged TL-s was mine. I drove that thing through every type of weather. EVERY DAY!!! Never had ANY problems with it. NOT A SINGLE ONE!!!! I boosted it, then got tired of it, so I sold it. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. And as far as Subsonicman goes, he and I own Subsonic Motorsports in Norwich, CT. If you have any questions, ask him or I, and we will be glad to help you out.
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