how much do i need for either one!? and which one would be more efficient n better in speed. sry if this is a dumb question.. =)

 

there is a turbo thread like 60 + (maybe more) and a s/c thread 20+ pgs long. read both and make a decision...GL

 

here is the turbo thread....
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...18808&page=114

 

And here is a supercharger thread.

Supercharging the TL (click here)


I recommend that you do a search on that s/c thread for the word "turbo". In that thread, we started to get into some discussions of the advantages/disadvantages of turbo vs s/c.

 

Nice! This is what i thought when i read this title...

 

mine is a type s and all these say non type s. what i do =(.

and its rly hard to choose cuz half say s/c is more reliable and half say turbo is. currently i have aem v2 and soon getting rv-6 exhaust and jpipe. should jst keep it that way?

i was never a s/c type and love turbos but i also dnt like the hassle of turbos.

btw thanks alot for helpin me guys

 

sounds like you made up your mind

 

yeah s/c it is but will this wrk on my type s? for some reason i feel embrassed to ask these questions... i thought i knew some about them but when it comes to buyin and u get seriouse u come to realize that u dnt knw shitttt. lol =(

 

i like turbos over sc...

 

turbo>SC

 

If you're going to do the exhaust and jpipe first, then you'll probably be going SC.

All of that is gone with the turbo kit.

 

At least you admit that. And I can respect you for this.

Now, while I don't like repeating myself, especially after a few times...I'm a little bored, and there's nothing else going on in the forum

As far as reliability of both SC and TC, when it comes to both kits, they are both superb in terms of build, components used etc. If something should break on one kit, the other kit shares the same fate.

What your focus should be on, (and anyone else's) isn't the reliability of either kit, but the reliability of your car once either kit is installed.

Comparing the kits side by side, as they come...
The SC is a bulletproof kit, with the exception of the true tuning capability.
This is where the TC has the edge, but it also costs more. The cost of the SC would run up there if you plan on fully supporting it with additional mods, as it should have been provided to begin with.

Getting a supercharger as is, with a few supporting mods, and I can't stress enough the importance of methanol injection if you don't plan on investing towards the AEM FIC to tune with, and only plan on running the SC with the ACM. Other mods include, PCD and Jpipe, and eventually full exhaust. Understand that PCDs shouldn't be looked at only as a power adder or simply compliment the SC. They should be considered as a safety towards a long lasting motor. I'd love to elaborate more on this, but I'll focus on comparison.
I'll just say that, a FI motor does not like a bunch of cats coupled to the heads.

So in other words, a SC as is, with a meth kit, and full exhaust, should be a pretty good setup when it comes to reliability, along with a nice kick in power.
I say this based on a stock configuration of 4-5 psi of boost with the SC.

The TC on the other hand, gives you a lot more options as is, and is also a lot more supportive of itself.
To name a few, which don't come with the SC: Intercooler, injectors, fuel pump, AEM FIC with wire harness. The turbo feeders delete the cats, so there's no need for PCDs like you would with the SC. Downpipe, which deletes the stock Jpipe and bolts directly to your catback.
Uses top notch components.
Isn't limited to boost levels, as it can supply more than your car can handle, while the SC is really limited to about 8-9 and even that is questioning its efficiency, and shouldn't really be setup for more than 4-5 unless you're going to tune your car. And by that I mean, digging into injectors, fuel pump and AEM FIC (these are already included with the TC)

Another advantage of the TC is that, it does not rob the motor from any power, where as the SC does since it's belt driven. If both ran at the same boost level, assuming both share the same boost efficiency, the TC will show a higher power output of about 30-40 hp. To name more advantages, the TC will run cooler charge temps, resulting in increased safety and power. The SC is truly a heat blower, and this is why I mentioned methanol injection as a supporting mod, to keep charge temps down.

You can safely run about 7-8 psi of boost with the TC, and go a long way (assuming one takes all the precautions necessary) , and make more power than you would with the SC running the same amount of boost.

The only few things you would need with the TC, is a knock monitor, which I believe is being R&Ded from J&R, so they might make it available. A methanol kit, catback, and a few hrs of a final TUNE. All the other stuff, the gauges, bells and whistles, is really a way of just adding fanciness to the car. They're not all truly necessary. But if you have the money, then by all means, go nuts.

Now, it probably seems like I favor the TC by a wide margin, and rest assured that I have no ties with either suppliers. In fact, I own and run a SC myself, but that's a whole different story.

 

I am with you types4sho, I love turbos and have worked with turbo cars all my short years but it just seems easier and less intrusive to go S/C. and for me i buy and sell cars so fast it will be nice to be able to just un bolt the S/C and sell the stock car as not many people are looking for a modded TL. Keep that in mind as well.

 

wow. thanks so much guys. alot of usefull info. thank u

 

So true. I'm not sure about the new exhaust manifold plumbing, but with the original tubes a couple of the tabs used to hold up shields had to be cut off.

Also the intercooler plumbing required some cutting of the inside of the front bumper so that is can't be brought back to stock without purchasing a replacement.

My son wants the car when I am done with it so I am not concerned about resale.

Also, as time goes on, the 3G's will be more affordable to more people so the modded TL market could get better.