Sure.

 

Great work. Simply amazing really. Congrats.

1. video with pcd/v3/exhaust?
2. dyno with pcd/v3/exhaust?
3. sleep tips get my vote
4. package deal for all 3 products?

 

Everytime I was under my car changing oil I would look at my exhaust. I always knew it was possible to do a dual setup. I also remember looking at the V3 j-pipe and thinking that it looked like half an x-pipe. I guess I was right. This is truely a revolutionary exhaust product for the TL. Even for transverse mounted engine layouts I have never seen anything like this before.

Here are some tip designs that I wouldn't mind seeing on Base exhaust. For the record I do not like the burnt titanium look.




Something like this, but more like what I drew below it. It's kinda like the tips from the new 2009 TL SH-AWD.

 

I think the burnt look would look great on NBP and WDP, but it doesn't look right with other colors. Just my opinion.

 

^^Agreed^^

I'm excited to see the options that become available when Richie gets the sample tips in

 

Ok I have been staring at this thread all day and I have some questions. Especially about the claims of 36whp and 40torque gained with Jpipe and exhaust.

According to both dyno runs the stock car put down 172 torque and 189hp. With just the exhaust it put down 187torque and 209hp a gain of 15tq and 20hp respectively. But with both the exhaust and j pipe it looks like the car is putting down 191tq and 205hp. Correct?

The difference between the stock car (172Tq and 189hp) and the car with both the j pipe and exhaust (191tq and 205hp) is 19tq and 16hp. Is this an issue of averages? and if so how do you calculate the average? I guess I was always under the assumption that when dealing with dyno numbers you looked at peak.

Where are you getting the 36whp and 40tq? I’m just confused and want to clear this up.

 

Richie has by far, one of the BEST customer service policies/take than any company/person I've done business with. Seriously, + 1 zillion for you dude...seriously

 

haha thanks for the offer but ill pass. currently working on cosmetics this summer. next summer we shall see

 

Is there a big difference in power between the ATLP base and this exhaust?

 

All i can say is wow!!! ive been holding out on Cat-back for a while now and im glad that i did. i think that this is the one for me, especially with those nice HP and TQ gains, it would go nicely with my RV6 PCD and Jpipe v2. only thing i dont like is the tips. those titanium burnt tips would look like pure sex on my wdp. i think im going to put down my deposit but i hope the tip design changes.

 

According to the ATLPLab site... the quads claim
I used to follow the ATLP Quad and Base threads... I do not remember what mods [if any] were equipped during the dynos.

But, even still---you can see that Richie's set up yields more gains.

 

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I posted average numbers since they do a better job of representing power gained through out the powerband. The average is calculated by the dyno program. You can see the average numbers underneath the graphs. If you look at just the peak numbers of the exhaust it looks like you lost 4WHP by adding the jpipe. But in reality much more power is gained in the 3-5krpm range.

 

Could someone explain why the X pipe? Why not 2 stright pipes? And the cat at the end is that really necessary?

 

^posted in the first post

 

03-07 Accord V6 next?

 

If you could do the tips from Terry along with a combo sale price with the J-Pipe, I'd be all over this.

Damn, I told myself no further mods after the A-spec kit until next summer, but this is unreal.

 

It should be a direct fit to the 6G Accords I believe

 

? for Richie V6...Will the final system be more modular? As in welding in a flange just before or after the resonator? I ask because if you're shipping the whole thing together won't it have to be shipped as freight because it's so big?

 

i wish i knew about this earlier

 

The final design will incorporate a modular design... most likely v-band clamps for a super easy install.

 

I did read the first post.

Exhaust is to free air out. If u have 2 stright pipes coming out, without anything to whole it back like the X pipe or the cat... Wouldn't that be a better exhaust flow? Gains would be much higher? I might not understand how that X pipe works or what it does but to my understanding if u have 2 stright pipes coming out, I believe that would be a true dual exhaust.

Correct me if I am wrong.

 

u need an x or h in the exhaust for exhaust gas scavenging. cleans out the gases in the cylinder much better and quicker. and something about pulses

 

Technically, this isn't a "true dual" in the TRUE sense but many other companies have sold similar catback designs with an X pipe and labeled it as a true dual exhaust.

With a NA TL and running straight pipes, a) it probably won't sound that great and will be raspy for sure, b) you'll lose a ton of low end torque, which is what most people use on a daily basis.

Now, if your car was boosted, then you'd be correct and would want to push the exhaust gases out the fastest way possible.

 

I understand what ur saying with just 2 stright pipes, if that was the case might as well kill the whole exhause system.

What if we make 2 stright, 1 cat and 2 back?

I'm just confused on the X since it reminds me of our stock J.. (2 going into 1)

 

Richy should do a deal with PCDs, Jpipe, and exhaust and maybe a HFC option for the exhaust or jpipe...

 

it will fit with minor alterations

and that is the 7th gen not 6th gen

 

I guess I'd be another one to possibly commit after seeing what tip options the base system will have...

Though the tipless option would be convenient for those of us who want to add our own touch to it!

Might have to take advantage of that lay away plan as a nice christmas gift to myself!

 

Can we assume the exhaust and V3 J-pipe will pass emissions in Cali?

 

I wouldn't assume anything in Cali, especially if it involves a visual inspection of the exhaust system.

 

there is a difference between average Hp and peak.
your car will feel faster with a higher peak because of the surge.

but it will actually BE faster with a higher average HP.

 

Uh huuuh! At Wal-Mart!

But all jokes aside, I will contine to put money into my cookie jar to fund my everlonged J-Pipe And now the true dual exhaust

 

I just need it to pass the test; I've got the visual covered.

Feel you bro, I was looking at the j-pipe only but if Richie can come through with a recession friendly blockbuster deal, I just might jump on it. With the titanium tips of course .

 

I actually tried this on my 03 Coupe. The section between the 3rd cat and resonator is too long. I believe it will fit just find with a section removed. I will try this on my car after the first batch gets in.

We are using slipfits with O-bands. There will be one connection after the resonator and one to each muffler.

You can always upgrade.

We can talk about deals after the first batch gets in. Of course I will give my customers a discount if they buy more items. We have some high flow precats coming out as well.

Not sure about Cali this system removes a cat.

 

This is EXACTLY what I am looking for, but since I don't have the type-s bumper or lip kit, I will settle with just a the dual version instead of the sexy quad.

So Rich, can you make this happen 4.5" tips (like the greddy) would be PERFECT!!!

 

Absolutely agree.

Peak HP numbers are great for "paper racing". "My peak is bigger than yours."

But real world racing requires a broad powerband. The car with the highest average HP thru the driving range (approx 4000 to 6500 for the 5AT) will be quicker.

 

Rich,

Am I reading this correctly? A Base model is excluded from being able to purchase your exhaust with tips pre-assembled?

 

^ No. 2 different designs will be sold... one for the base models and one for the type-s models.

 

Thanks jmkiang

I looked closer after your reply. I found it now (quoted above). I was so excited and was speed reading thru this thread this morning. I don't know how I overlooked this thread for the past two days.

This thread did get me a bit

 

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