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Old 05-10-2009, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Timeless
so...how's progress?
the car is finished, car runs great, just working on the stereo right now
Old 05-10-2009, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by subsonicman
the car is finished, car runs great, just working on the stereo right now
So its tuned? If so how? I thought that's what the whole commotion was all about in here... that all you guys did was throw in a blower into a TYPE S with no additional tuning?
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Originally Posted by Elegant TYPE S
So its tuned? If so how? I thought that's what the whole commotion was all about in here... that all you guys did was throw in a blower into a TYPE S with no additional tuning?
We had a local shop tweek the CT Advanced control module, by that I mean, they programmed a slightly longer injector pulse length, which was really an Idea that came from CT Engineering. So, If you were to order a kit direct from them, you could maybe get them to do it.

Other Then That, all we did was bolt a TL supercharger to the Type S motor, with very little modification
Old 05-12-2009, 07:38 AM
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Since I don't want to go through 19 pages and it seems like a bitch searching for the anwser, Supposidly why wouldn't the CTSC fit on a TL-S?
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ummm it does, read the post above yours.
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Originally Posted by subsonicman
We had a local shop tweek the CT Advanced control module, by that I mean, they programmed a slightly longer injector pulse length, which was really an Idea that came from CT Engineering. So, If you were to order a kit direct from them, you could maybe get them to do it.

Other Then That, all we did was bolt a TL supercharger to the Type S motor, with very little modification

so now that it is "TUNED" what kinda power is this beast making? how much boost are you running? how much more power is it making than the TL-P superchargered?
Old 05-12-2009, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by subsonicman
And Blacks Car is cool as hell too..... But I think he will agree the SC is wicked cool....

Slightly over 300hp is still not 321hp before the smaller pulley

the car is around 335-345hp currently.
Originally Posted by subsonicman
Smaller Pulley, which brought the car from 3.5 pounds of boost to 4.8 pounds of boost, and custom cold air intake, and that is just a guess, because we have no real reason to go back to the dyno

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After all the test are done and the car is fully ready, how do u think it will compete with the new turbo kit for the TL3g????
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Originally Posted by salu8819
After all the test are done and the car is fully ready, how do u think it will compete with the new turbo kit for the TL3g????
IS THERE A TURBO KIT? OR IS EVERYTHING STILL CUSTOM?

EITHER WAY, A TURBO KIT IS MORE CAPABLE OF PUTTING UP BIGGER BOOST NUMBERS, IN MY OPINION, ANYTHING MORE THEN 6 POUNDS WILL BLOW A STOCK MOTOR, BUT hp PER $ I FEEL THE SUPERCHARGED CAR IS MORE COST EFFECTIVE. THE ECU TUNING NEEDED TO PROPERLY RUN A TURBO KIT ON WILL COST A FEW THOUSAND, THE ENGINE UPGRADES NEEDED RUN BIG BOOST WILL COST A FEW MORE THOUSAND.

IF YOU COMPARE 5 POUNDS TO 5 POUNDS OF BOOST, I THINK THE SUPERCHARGED TYPE S STILL PUTS UP A SLIGHTLY LARGER hp #, AND STILL WINS 70% OF THE STRAIGHT LINE RACES. YOU WILL GET BETTER TRACTION IN A PROPERLY SIZED TURBO CAR (ie YOU ARE USUALLY ROLLING WHEN YOU HIT BOOST) WHERE A SUPERSHARGER STARTS MAKING POWER RIGHT AWAY.

IN SHORT, I THINK A SUPERCHARGER IS CHEAPER, AND WAY MORE DAILY DRIVABLE THEN A TURBO.

A TURBO IS WAY MORE CAPABLE OF MAKING GIANT hp #'S I THINK IF MONEY WAS NO OBJECT, YOU COULD SEE 6-700 hp TL'S
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Oh Chris, you are still alive? Hmmmm I didn't know since you never showed up to the Sox game Sat and you never called me or text me to tell me you weren't coming.....
And about your friend Sean, yea, apparently his phone is broken, or he is avoiding me.
What's up with you guys lately? You are both rude as hell!!
Old 05-12-2009, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by subsonicman
I THINK IF MONEY WAS NO OBJECT, YOU COULD SEE 6-700 hp (insert car here)
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Old 05-12-2009, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by carrielynn
oh chris, you are still alive? Hmmmm i didn't know since you never showed up to the sox game sat and you never called me or text me to tell me you weren't coming.....
And about your friend sean, yea, apparently his phone is broken, or he is avoiding me.
What's up with you guys lately? You are both rude as hell!!
i told you my car overheated, and had me stuck in providence, putting a f'ing water pump in sitting in a parking lot. Sean is to busy for me too
Old 05-12-2009, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by subsonicman
i told you my car overheated, and had me stuck in providence, putting a f'ing water pump in sitting in a parking lot. Sean is to busy for me too
yea well I wish you would have told me you weren't going to make it but oh well, no big deal, shit happens, I am over it, it's cool.
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Originally Posted by CarrieLynn
yea well I wish you would have told me you weren't going to make it but oh well, no big deal, shit happens, I am over it, it's cool.
but i did text you, and told you i was stuck in providence, and you replied with

"yea traffic sucked?"WTF was that about

any way, are you going to HIN in jersey
Old 05-12-2009, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by subsonicman
but i did text you, and told you i was stuck in providence, and you replied with

"yea traffic sucked?"WTF was that about

any way, are you going to HIN in jersey
hahahahah, I guess I thought you were stuck in traffic like I was. I didn't realize that meant you were not coming. Oh well, don't worry about it, no big deal.

And no I am not going to HIN, there is a CT meet I will be going to on Sat. I would have LOVED to go to HIN but it is kinda far and I am not gonna drive to Jersey by myself. Sean and I talked about going awhile ago and us all driving together since it was so far. After the location got changed though he said he didn't know if he was going or not and since he is avoiding me I never asked him about it again, I have other plans anyway.
Why are you going?
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Originally Posted by CarrieLynn
hahahahah, I guess I thought you were stuck in traffic like I was. I didn't realize that meant you were not coming. Oh well, don't worry about it, no big deal.

And no I am not going to HIN, there is a CT meet I will be going to on Sat. I would have LOVED to go to HIN but it is kinda far and I am not gonna drive to Jersey by myself. Sean and I talked about going awhile ago and us all driving together since it was so far. After the location got changed though he said he didn't know if he was going or not and since he is avoiding me I never asked him about it again, I have other plans anyway.
Why are you going?
well, you could fallow me and the wife
Old 05-12-2009, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by subsonicman
well, you could fallow me and the wife
I honestly would LOVE to but I already made other plans. Please take some pics for me though......I missed HIN Boston this year too
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^^^ what do those last 7-8 post have anything to do with a blown type-s =\

thread seems kinda pointless now =\

Originally Posted by CarrieLynn
I am not going to respond to anymore of your posts. I said what I had to say and that's it.
Seriously whatever issues you have with Chris is between you and him and do not need to be brought up here.
Unless you have something useful to contribute please stop posting in here because I DO NOT want to see Sean's thread get closed because you have issues with Chris, that has nothing to do with Sean or his car which is what this thread is about.
If you have something to discuss with Chris just go to the shop and talk to him.
pot and kettle scenario maybe?

however. i still was wondering abuot what i asked earlier. about the car bouncing off the rev limiter? or has that guy never stepped inside the car?
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Originally Posted by MobTownTL
^^^ what do those last 7-8 post have anything to do with a blown type-s =\

thread seems kinda pointless now =\



pot and kettle scenario maybe?

however. i still was wondering abuot what i asked earlier. about the car bouncing off the rev limiter? or has that guy never stepped inside the car?
thanks, the first part of your post proves my point that nobody has anything nice to say in this thread anymore.
Old 05-12-2009, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CarrieLynn
nobody has anything nice to say in this thread anymore.
So why is this thread still open?
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This thread has become nothing more than a chat room. It should be moved to Ramblings.
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Originally Posted by dr_brains510
So why is this thread still open?
I don't know and I really don't care anymore. I used to care...........
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Originally Posted by MobTownTL
^^^ what do those last 7-8 post have anything to do with a blown type-s =\

thread seems kinda pointless now =\



pot and kettle scenario maybe?

however. i still was wondering abuot what i asked earlier. about the car bouncing off the rev limiter? or has that guy never stepped inside the car?
what are you asking about the car bouncing off the rev limiter? I think we are talking about when you turn the VSA off, and its damp out, you can not, and will not get traction, and how the VSA is best left on period in the type S, because it will just sit there and wheel hop
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this thread used to fun until all the hates on this forum started talking s$%t, and lost the focus on the project, which is also finished, the car has many boosted miles on, and is problem free, KNOCK ON WOOD>
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Originally Posted by ls/vtec
Subsonic, Jodi's Audio Shop in New London CT is a joke. The owner of this car is a cool guy. And the car is nice. And moves pretty decent. Subsonicman brought me for a ride in it, bouncing off the rev limiter missing gears well the interior was all apart, attempting to race around in the rain. Honestly the car is decent. But the owner did more work than the shop owner. I was in there multiple times and every time Sean was working well Chris sat around doing nothing. Well with all that said just thought everyone should know the truth.
^^^ what was he talking about then.
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dude are you not getting it???

VSA off + wet roads + 320whp fwd = massive wheel spin

your engine will rev up to redline before you know it and youll probably bounce of the rev limiter if you are trying to push the car.
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i've asked twice in here, but not sure if my questions were answered... dont feel like searching 19+ pages


For PHYSICAL installation... did the kit line up, and bolt on 100% ?? Did you have to make any custom brackets ? i.e., the trans mount ??

Thanks guys!!
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^blackura, fyi i think nva-av6 is in the process of building a S/C using a m90. might want to hold out for that
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^ Nice. That's what this kit really needs. Comptech should've used the M90 in the first place, I guess reliability was an issue seeing how the compression ration on the j32a3 is 11:1.
Old 05-13-2009, 08:20 PM
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I believe there were custom brackets fabbed up for this
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Originally Posted by ussi
^blackura, fyi i think nva-av6 is in the process of building a S/C using a m90. might want to hold out for that
M90 =

Cobalt SS, Early 90's Bonnevilles and Miatas use the M62

Mustangs, T-Birds & Jags all use the M90

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^^^ any quick estimate on what an m90 will put down for our cars at maybe the same boost as the ct sc?
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Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
M90 =

Cobalt SS, Early 90's Bonnevilles and Miatas use the M62

Mustangs, T-Birds & Jags all use the M90
i thought the SS was turbo'd?
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^ nah... 2.0L I-4 with an M62 S/C with.. you ready for this? STOCK = 12-15lbs of boost
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Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
^ nah... 2.0L I-4 with an M62 S/C with.. you ready for this? STOCK = 12-15lbs of boost
thats psycho, that kinda sucks though, since you probably cant turn it up THAT much more.
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Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
^ nah... 2.0L I-4 with an M62 S/C with.. you ready for this? STOCK = 12-15lbs of boost
My RSX-S ran 9psi on a JRSC M62 kit and made more WHP than a Cobalt....epic win.
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Originally Posted by greco9885
i thought the SS was turbo'd?
The Cobalt SS was originally supercharged. I believe they had supercharged under their Cobalt badge. Now-a-days, they're turbo'd & put up more of a fight.
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Final numbers on the "SC'ed TL-S"?
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^^^ yeah I'm curious as well. After hearing about the 400+ whp from the turbo kit on a base TL, I want to compare it to the s/c TLS numbers.
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sooo...much....reading.
never saw this thread till now. very interesting ...and dramatic.

One thing no one ever mentioned (maybe because of the ultra-smooth power curves). The "common cold" with the S/C'd community; Any SURGING? The hondata reflash cures it, but there's only a small handfull of us with it. Could this pulse adjustment on the ACM have something to do with the lack of surging or perhaps it's just the low boost pressure that makes it very difficult to notice?

Originally Posted by ussi
^blackura, fyi i think nva-av6 is in the process of building a S/C using a m90. might want to hold out for that
Usmaan, post a link please! M90 FTW! You get that clutch taken care of?


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