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Old Nov 11, 2015 | 08:32 AM
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Plan for 300whp '08 TL-S

First of the car is a 65k mile 08 TL-S 5spd auto that I got about 6 months ago. I was searching for the 6 MT but i couldn't turn down a 65k mile car and I drive in traffic a good bit with the occasional mountain trip where I will severely miss the MT but oh well. Immediately I deleted the mid muffler and the resonator and installed the 12 inch dynomax resonator. I have been patient and have been trying to decide the best route to "300"

Plans: rv6 v3 j-pipe, xlr8 exhaust, hondata programmer, dyno tune. I know that this will have me around 280 I'm guessing/hoping. pre cat deletes are an option but i can't decide if they are worth the rasp, I can't seem to find a sound clip with this set up. I don't care to add a cold air intake. If i get to around 290-295 i would be happy, but 300 is the goal. If anyone has any input on any changes or additions to achieve 300 that would be great. Thanks
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Old Nov 11, 2015 | 09:41 AM
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I'm pretty sure it's not possible for an auto to hit 300 with just bolt ons, only the 6mt can reach that

With the mods you currently have you're prob at 260 and will max out at 285 with all mods. You need pcds/hfpcs which is prob the biggest gainer, along with a full pnp setup (tb, im, and runners) also needing either the arm v2 cai or a DIY 4" intake.
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Old Nov 11, 2015 | 10:12 AM
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As Sockr1 mentioned, hitting 300 with the Auto will be difficult. You'll also want to do the AEM V2 Cold Air Intake, our XLR8 lightweight crank pulley, and HFC's. As you you mentioned OP you will get some rasp but it's the only way you'll gain maximum power.

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Old Nov 11, 2015 | 10:44 AM
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I have a J-pipe,Exhaust,CAI and Tune and I dyno'd at 250WHP with an incomplete tune on a DynoJet. Your trans is a handicap to your goal whp wise with bolt-on's alone. I think you would put down about 250-260WHP with the mods listed.

You will need HFPC's or PCD's plus head work/cams/intake to even get close to 300 WHP.

A 6MT TL-S had all of this and hit 320WHP.
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Old Nov 11, 2015 | 12:01 PM
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OP if your open to forced induction, nitrous might not be a bad option.

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Old Nov 11, 2015 | 02:39 PM
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I am tempted to jump on the RV6 true duals if there are any left and the v3 j-pipe and let it ride since there is not a whole lot of availability for power increase anyways.
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Old Nov 11, 2015 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 6spd-GERCO
I have a J-pipe,Exhaust,CAI and Tune and I dyno'd at 250WHP with an incomplete tune on a DynoJet. Your trans is a handicap to your goal whp wise with bolt-on's alone. I think you would put down about 250-260WHP with the mods listed.

You will need HFPC's or PCD's plus head work/cams/intake to even get close to 300 WHP.

A 6MT TL-S had all of this and hit 320WHP.
Are you still on the stock precats?
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Old Nov 11, 2015 | 06:08 PM
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I am currently fully bolted on my 08 Auto TL-S (Also Hondata tuned by DomGSR-T on AcuraZine). Dyno day pending because I have a few small maintenance to do before I jump back on the dyno (Front brakes/Oil/filter/spark plugs to change). My previous Dyno with just PCD/Jpipe/throttlebody spacer/4" intake I basically made what 6spd-GERCO made. I installed my Rv6 True Dual Exhaust yesterday just almost 2 hours after receiving it and it was definitely worth the wait. If there is space to get on that exhaust OP I suggest you jump on it. If you follow my Instagram (tliscious_typesex) I have videos posted or you can check my progress thread (which needs to update but I like to make major updates). My current bolt ons are 3.7 Intake Manifold/ZDX ThrottleBody/4" Intake/Port & Polished Runners/Intake Manifold Spacer/Rv6 Pre Cat Deletes/Rv6 Jpipe/Rv6 TD Quad Exhaust/Hondata Tuned.
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Old Nov 11, 2015 | 06:13 PM
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I actually have already checked it out. It is just a lot to drop 2200 dollars on exhaust (I'm including the j-pipe. I could do the rv6 v3 J-pipe and xlr8 exhaust for 1500. Im just torn and i don't know how much time i actually have to make a decision. i could add hondata and be at the same cost as well. Its a tough decision, since this car really won't get up there in whp I almost hate to drop a lot of money in it.
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Old Nov 11, 2015 | 06:32 PM
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the xlr8 exhaust sounds great...i know the rv6 is a great exhaust but to me it wasn't worth the extra 700 bucks...the hondata would be a much better investment if you can get the jpipe and the xlr8 exhaust also
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Old Nov 11, 2015 | 06:38 PM
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yeah i mean my car is a DD and I go hit the mountains a lot and just drive. I really want to do some suspension add ons. I want good pull out of the turns and great handling which the s-type is no slouch at either but i feel like it could be better. if money was no object I would already have the TD, j-pipe, and hfpc. also do you have any rasp with the hfpc? I want to delete these cause I would love the power increase but I am not a fan of rasp
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Old Nov 11, 2015 | 07:02 PM
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Then just get the rv6 exhuast for now and the jpipe later if you really want it. I know its a lot of money to drop one time hence the j-series/TL platform is not the best platform for perfomance. $$$ to hp ratio sucks
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Old Nov 11, 2015 | 07:06 PM
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i almost feel like the stage 3 mod i did and hfpc and v3 j pipe will sound good enough to make me happy and give the most bang for the buck. I am gonna sleep on these rv6 exhaust tonight, although i really would love to have them because they are different and rare
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Old Nov 11, 2015 | 07:18 PM
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well i just read and hfpc are only a little better than the stock tl-s cats so the most gains are from the pcd. I like the sound just don't know if i could handle it on the highway
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Old Nov 11, 2015 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 08tl-stype
well i just read and hfpc are only a little better than the stock tl-s cats so the most gains are from the pcd. I like the sound just don't know if i could handle it on the highway
False. Good gains with hfpcs over stock type s not sure where you read that it isn't true. You only gain 1-3 hp going hfpcs to pcds, to me it wasn't worth the smell and rasp. Usually no rasp with hfpcs if you have a reaonated exhaust. You'll have rasp most likely if you don't have a reaonated exhaust.

Also, there are more cases of rasp from the rv6 jpipe than any other jpipe. It doesn't happen mostly stock but once you throw exhaust mods on Ive seen and heard cases of rasp with that specific jpipe.
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Old Nov 11, 2015 | 07:35 PM
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yeah right now I have a mid muffler delete, that larger resonator or whatever that was is deleted and i replaced it with a 12 inch dynamo resonator, the sound is good just not exactly what I'm looking for but worked for a few months. i just listened to hfpc, v3 j-pipe and the xlr8 quads and it had a really nice sound
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Old Nov 11, 2015 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 08tl-stype
well i just read and hfpc are only a little better than the stock tl-s cats so the most gains are from the pcd. I like the sound just don't know if i could handle it on the highway
Base primary cats are 900 cell, Type-S are 600 cell, RV6 HFPC are 200 or 300 (tough to find any concrete specs on the Magnaflows) and PCDs are obviously 0 cell. So it's equally incremental as you go down the line. The base model does stand to gain more with the HFPCs, being a 600-700 cell reduction from stock, but the Type S will still gain a decent amount.

I wish we had a 100 cell cat available.
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
Are you still on the stock precats?
Yes I am still on stock precats.
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 08:33 AM
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if i had 5200 dollars for the kit it would already be on there. I don't care about complications a supercharged tl-s just sounds incredible to me, but i think I'm gonna forget thinking so much about the bolt ons, just go with the v3 j-pipe, I'm gonna order tein SA coilovers with a sway bar and see how i like it that way.
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 03:26 PM
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You should care about complications. They have a tendency to blow engines. CT supercharger won't work right with the TL-S anyway.
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 07:01 PM
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so the plan for 300 whp has changed, now I'm just planning to make the best upgrades for cosmetics and sound and some added performance instead of going for performance alone. I ordered Tein SA coilovers, and the Rv6 strut brace. I am gonna go with either the xlr8 v2 or the ATLP cat delete j-pipe. Im about to order the xlr8 catback system.

The question i have is since I'm doing the xlr8 catback should i do the xlr8 j pipe, and how much difference is between the resonated and non. I don't want rasp, but i do like loud.

in a few months I'm going to order progress sway bar, aem v2, hondata, hfpcd.
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 08:06 PM
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^ do the resonated one. it's such a small resonator it's almost like there's nothing there anyways. plus when you add hfpcs it's going to increase sound and if you don't have any resonator you'll prob have rasp at that install.

xlr8 jpipe is nice because it targets the middle of the rpm band, whereas rv6 targets low rpm power and atlp for the high rpms if i remember correct.

i don't know where you live, but i'm in california which is super strict on smog testing (visual) so i did the atlp jpipe that keep the 3rd cat...and i just put in a high flow 3rd cat so it looks oem still. check out heeltoe's jpipe thread where they compare all jpipes (search for it)
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 08:29 PM
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oh yes i am familiar with that threat, I am from south carolina, Emissions aren't a thing here haha. so I think and since there is a chance of rasp with the rv6 i will probably go with the xlr8 complete set up. Who are the best people to order the xlr8 stuff from?
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Originally Posted by 08tl-stype
oh yes i am familiar with that threat, I am from south carolina, Emissions aren't a thing here haha. so I think and since there is a chance of rasp with the rv6 i will probably go with the xlr8 complete set up. Who are the best people to order the xlr8 stuff from?
how about XLR8 themselves?????????


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Old Nov 13, 2015 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 08tl-stype
oh yes i am familiar with that threat, I am from south carolina, Emissions aren't a thing here haha. so I think and since there is a chance of rasp with the rv6 i will probably go with the xlr8 complete set up. Who are the best people to order the xlr8 stuff from?
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
You should care about complications. They have a tendency to blow engines. CT supercharger won't work right with the TL-S anyway.
Why would the CT Supercharger not work with the 08 TL-S?
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Originally Posted by Hugo2go
Why would the CT Supercharger not work with the 08 TL-S?
It will "work", but the problem is how the roots supercharger (CT) develops "pressure" . A Roots supercharger is a positive displacement pump so air is moved at a fixed volume per revolution of the lobes in the blower. The larger volume of the motor of a TL-S (3.5L) vs the base TL (3.2L) lowers the developed "pressure" by the blower translating a lower power gain.
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