Yonkers914

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good idea, its actually smaller than what i thought it would be.

KN_TL

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ok, got a piece of metal, bent it up and I don't like it. Scratch that idea. $10 wasted.

Under the rug there is an insulator. It's a +$150 part and it goes up behind the dash right up to the windshield on the passenger side so it will be a bitch to replace. But I think I could cut a hole in it and recess it so there is little if none of it sticking above the current floor height.

Just trying to get the courage to cut it.

bmeyer

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I wonder if it's easier to move the stock ECU so that the J&R unit can fit in the stock location? The stock ECU definitely has a shorter height and length, though it's definitely wider.

TheChamp531

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Why not put it in your glove box?

pass427

ha ngood thought bmeyer we didnt even think of that , we did install it by footwell ,my next task will be making smaller covers for better fitment in due time...

KN_TL

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It does fit, but I couldn't find a place for the stock ECU.

I cut the insulation and I am going to mount the MS3 to the firewall/floorboard. I cut and bent the 16ga steel into a C shape that fits exactly on top of the box and is 12 inches long. Drilled and tapped the MS3 case and will use button head hex screws to mount it.

I want so protection for the connectors on each side so I offset it by 1 1/2 inches on the USB side and the D-Sub connector side goes past the connector covers.

Then I am going to make a foam piece to fill in the gaps on the floor. It shouldn't be too bad for the passenger.

I thought about cutting up the glove compartment but there is limited amounts of storage to begin with. I have my Alky unit in one of the compartments under the radio and I need to find a place for an EDFC unit. So I wanted to keep my glove compartment intact if at all possible.

KN_TL

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I just took it apart to see if something could be done. They've done a pretty good job building it. The vacuum/boost sensor is mounted to the bottom of the board so it's down as low as it can go. There are a few power transistors that they've got tied down to a heat sink bar and I don't know how warm they get. The space between the main board and the two daughter boards may be intentional.

One tactic may be to build two smaller boxes with a strap in between, but it will require longer leads. You may consider making the leads to the d-sub connectors longer so the unit could be mounted under the seat or something further back in the car. That's assuming the leads aren't already as long as they can be for impedance or resistive reasons.

Inaccurate

As part of the TL Diet, I had removed this insulation. It is approx one inch thick. You could cut-out a section (using a xacto knife or similar cutting blade) as one whole section. Then, if you wanted to replace it later, the section could be inserted back into the cut-out (with the carpet holding it in place).

KN_TL

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Thanks. I had already committed to cutting just a hole and did that before going to bed last night. Over estimated the depth of the pad but it did help.

For others, you may consider buying a set of 37 pin extension cables. That will allow you to install it under the seat, in the armrest or even on the drivers side.

I just need to wire up the MS3 to analog output of the AEM wideband, rewire the boost solenoid and connect the vacuum/boost hose.

Here are some pics:

bmeyer

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Are the plugs standard 37-pin D-Sub connectors? I wonder if the gauge of wire that is typically used in standard extension cables would be enough to handle the requirements of the various components?

pass427

I think the location its mounted in is very ideal but if someone request I can lengthen the wires but we mount all ecus in same location kn did ...

bmeyer

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@Rodney
Definitely lengthen mine. I'm going to attempt mounting it under the passenger seat.

BSpecialist

I was just wondering if anyone would think a MS2 could be tuned to the same affect as the MS3? I have an almost completed MS2 and was just curious if any additional daughter boards would need to be/ would be able to be added to support this engine. Thanks for the help.

KN_TL

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Everything is in, connected and the car started. I am having problems connecting my Macbook to the MS3 so I am working on it now.

Haven't driven it yet but the idle A/F is in the 12-13 range now. I want to get the computer attached so I can create some logs.

More as soon as it's available.

KN_TL

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Just came back from a short drive.

Holy Moley, drive-ability is a million times better than before. Acceleration and deceleration is silky smooth. The boost comes in a lot more tame and up in the 3-4K range so I get a slight bit of wheelspin on stock tires with about 8.5lbs of boost.

I've got a set of Aspec wheels with Conti DW's waiting to go on.

I'm even getting the 'G-coupe' deceleration sounds from my exhaust.

I am one totally satisfied customer. The wait was well worth it.

justnspace

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I'm jelly

swoosh

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am super jelly....waiting for this ECU to get tested on a NA car....

justnspace

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Swoosh, lets go halfsies on it.

you get it for the summer, and I'll have it for the rest of the years.

swoosh

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am fine with that....am in KC so in the winter in snow i usually try not to drive my car....so i can have it from April to October and you can from Nov to March (rest of the year and not rest of the yearsss)

TLdream

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It is true to get that, but better suggested to get some ID injectors.


doesnt take much work, but they must be flow tested, and the modifications must be precise. Talk to Rodney about getting it done, he can explain the process.

I agree 100%. It could possibly save you $300-$500 but in the end its better/safer to just get some high quality injectors that are precise and built to push the fuel you need.

I will have full before and after dyno on my car, I think its pretty reasonable to gain 30ish whp. I will be looking for 300-310 whp, and hoping to drop my car into the 11's.

anx1300c

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11's on 300 whp in a TL?

Maybe if you get it down to 2500 lbs, lol.

Sonnick

He has the J35a8 from the TL Type S in a 5G Prelude. I believe it's around 2900lbs give or take. 11s might be a little optimistic, but I can definitely see 12.3-12.5 @110-112 based off his previous best.

TLDream: A full second off your PB of 12.8 with only 30whp gained is pretty optimistic. I hope you break into the 11s, but you're gonna need more than 30whp. Although I know it will be throughout the band, I still can't see that shaving off a full second.

BostonSilverTypeS

^!!!

@ sonnick,
if he shaves some more weight off that 2900lbs and then it is very possible!!!

either way GL on reaching 11's keep us posted for sure

Sonnick

That is very true. I didn't even consider dropping weight!

anx1300c

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Ahh, I thought he meant in a 3400-3600 lb TL. Still gonna be tough, but much more plausible.

TLdream

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My PB time is 12.6 @ 108 on the quite exhaust setup (las vegas 5/15) . I trapped near 110 on the loud exhaust setup. With the new exhaust i can see the car going 12.3 and with some tuning, I think I can pull a high 11 out of it. I may do a little weight saving.


When I raced my buddys TL, I weighted in at 3404lbs with me in the car. My prelude is probably 2800-2900ish.

Inaccurate

^ If relying solely on weight reductions, you will need to drop approx 400 lbs to hit the magic 11.9 ET. The rule-of-thumb is 0.1 sec quicker for every 100 lbs reduction.

TLdream

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^ aggreed. I cant cut that much weight out of the car for the class i race in though.

Sonnick

^^ Didn't you trap close to 105 in the TL with bolt ons/S2k wheels/DRs? If so, that's very impressive. How much did those wheels weigh? I'm kind of interested in looking for a lightweight setup for the track.

Hi speed

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^^ Does this guy have a TL? I thought he was running a TL engine in a prelude.

TLdream

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My trap speeds wernt that high in the TL, I think it was 101 or 102 mph. I still have the ap1 s2k wheels with the DR's still. Its juts my backup track setup now.

I have both.

Hi speed

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Nice, both with the 3.5?

Yvuru

What kind of gains can be expected on a naturally aspirated engine?

TLdream

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No my TL is 3.2

Forcefed 3

So are there logs yet?

pass427

the ecu have been already tested on na car already ,

pohljm

anxiously waiting for the results

pass427

Results is in the first page with xiamaro Tl types n/a with primary cats in place , too much testing and no sales will eventually cause disaster so for now we will be slowing down and catering to current customers a choice that we have to male to keep financially stable , and keep introducing parts that are needed

bmeyer

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^^^ I hope that means I'll still be getting mine? Any sort of an estimate on when?

pass427

Oh no don't think for a minute were going anywhere or stop making products we will be here for a long time as we ate tring to fort a 4g owner to let us turbocharge the 4g