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05-03-2011, 12:39 PM
#161
Oh so you dont want to know what you are using? Thats cool.
05-03-2011, 12:45 PM
#162
I wasn't going to post anything except some screenshots of logging that I could capture. Just to show it can be done.
I agree with you. Rodney has gone above and beyond for this community and we should respect the work he has done by supporting his products by purchasing, not pirating.
I agree with you. Rodney has gone above and beyond for this community and we should respect the work he has done by supporting his products by purchasing, not pirating.
Example:
Last edited by Forcefed 3; 05-03-2011 at 12:49 PM.
05-03-2011, 01:04 PM
#163
Excuse me? How does posting a log or the timing tables help *ME* know what *I'm* using?? Obviously *I* can open those tables or log any values that I need.
There's no need for snide remarks. Especially when they weren't dished out to you. Maybe you should take a step back for a moment... you've done nothing but step on toes since you've been here.
There's no need for snide remarks. Especially when they weren't dished out to you. Maybe you should take a step back for a moment... you've done nothing but step on toes since you've been here.
05-03-2011, 01:10 PM
#164
Not to start an argument, but can you explain how that is pirating? I am not asking to see his tables, I just want to see it in action. I dont know how things work on this board, but I have never heard of users and tuners that wouldn't want to display and share logs.
Example:
Example:
05-03-2011, 01:11 PM
#165
Excuse me? How does posting a log or the timing tables help *ME* know what *I'm* using?? Obviously *I* can open those tables or log any values that I need.
There's no need for snide remarks. Especially when they weren't dished out to you. Maybe you should take a step back for a moment... you've done nothing but step on toes since you've been here.
There's no need for snide remarks. Especially when they weren't dished out to you. Maybe you should take a step back for a moment... you've done nothing but step on toes since you've been here.
Why wouldnt you want to see how its running before you buy it? Unless you are just worried about performance only, then I guess dyno numbers are all you need.
Last edited by Forcefed 3; 05-03-2011 at 01:25 PM.
05-03-2011, 01:15 PM
#166
I think what you are not getting is no one has this ECU other than rodney and kikazz, both of which are too busy to data log for you. There were a lot of request from people when the turbo came out for the base maps so they didn't have to spend the $$$ getting tuned. This is what I think people think you are asking for. Wait until its released and people might log timing for you, but without knowing what you want to do there will be little interest in doing so. post your question or email rodney and he will answer it for you.
05-03-2011, 01:17 PM
#168
I don't think anyone was getting defensive until you started making your comments. Maybe you're just used to the BMW forums... we (try to) run things a little differently here. 
Making those sort of comments to those who you're asking for help from is no way to get them to help you.
Making those sort of comments to those who you're asking for help from is no way to get them to help you.
05-03-2011, 02:09 PM
#170
Forcefed, what did I say. I'd post screenshots of logs, at least I would before your comments.
I was merely agreeing with bmeyer and his comments.
With regard to seeing before buying? Three of us went way out on a limb with Rodney for thousands of dollars while he was building the turbo kit. It took longer than he expected but he came through. I have no reservations whatsoever with his work. As before, I paid ahead of time with the ECU so I could help out.
I was merely agreeing with bmeyer and his comments.
With regard to seeing before buying? Three of us went way out on a limb with Rodney for thousands of dollars while he was building the turbo kit. It took longer than he expected but he came through. I have no reservations whatsoever with his work. As before, I paid ahead of time with the ECU so I could help out.
05-03-2011, 02:36 PM
#171
Forcefed, what did I say. I'd post screenshots of logs, at least I would before your comments.
I was merely agreeing with bmeyer and his comments.
With regard to seeing before buying? Three of us went way out on a limb with Rodney for thousands of dollars while he was building the turbo kit. It took longer than he expected but he came through. I have no reservations whatsoever with his work. As before, I paid ahead of time with the ECU so I could help out.
I was merely agreeing with bmeyer and his comments.
With regard to seeing before buying? Three of us went way out on a limb with Rodney for thousands of dollars while he was building the turbo kit. It took longer than he expected but he came through. I have no reservations whatsoever with his work. As before, I paid ahead of time with the ECU so I could help out.
05-03-2011, 05:48 PM
#173
05-04-2011, 01:10 AM
#174
Instructor
05-04-2011, 08:05 AM
#176
So you are saying just because I asked you how that is pirating you aren't going to post them? If so, thats fine, someone will end up posting them eventually. I understand you 3 made an investment in it, but what about everyone else? It just seems like everyone when speaking about products here is "don't ask questions just use it." I dont really understand that
I'm not sure where you saw anyone saying 'don't ask questions just use it', but from what I have seen and what I have posted myself, we all give as much information as we can without handing out things that we paid for.
I was asked by a few people after I received the kit if I would send them the maps from my F/IC. This is what bmeyer is referring to. I won't do it and I hope anyone else who paid for this won't do it either. Rodney worked his ass off to give us this and he should be paid accordingly.
I won't make any more comments unless it's about the ECU. Hopefully we'll see it very soon.
05-04-2011, 11:06 AM
#177
05-04-2011, 11:09 AM
#178
I should have worded that differently. It wasn't because of the pirating comment but all of the other garbage from you.
I'm not sure where you saw anyone saying 'don't ask questions just use it', but from what I have seen and what I have posted myself, we all give as much information as we can without handing out things that we paid for.
I was asked by a few people after I received the kit if I would send them the maps from my F/IC. This is what bmeyer is referring to. I won't do it and I hope anyone else who paid for this won't do it either. Rodney worked his ass off to give us this and he should be paid accordingly.
I won't make any more comments unless it's about the ECU. Hopefully we'll see it very soon.
I'm not sure where you saw anyone saying 'don't ask questions just use it', but from what I have seen and what I have posted myself, we all give as much information as we can without handing out things that we paid for.
I was asked by a few people after I received the kit if I would send them the maps from my F/IC. This is what bmeyer is referring to. I won't do it and I hope anyone else who paid for this won't do it either. Rodney worked his ass off to give us this and he should be paid accordingly.
I won't make any more comments unless it's about the ECU. Hopefully we'll see it very soon.
Last edited by Forcefed 3; 05-04-2011 at 11:13 AM.
05-04-2011, 05:48 PM
#179
Burning Brakes
I've missed so much in last few months from been so freaking busy ,its finally catching up to me with a week long headache trailing , we ve just received kn and beymer clutch which they've been way more than patient waiting on ,also getting ecu ready for them as well ,for simple fact too people got to understand ,things take time if your concerned about your product going on the market and functioning as advertised it takes time if I weren't concerned id have released everything already ,I'm sure kn hi speed ,bmeyer and few others understand as there watched us grow with products that we were lacking for the Tl ,now forcefed I'm sure if you wait kn as always have kept supporting is and keeping the forum updated even with an install thread kikazz will not send a log as he's not too much of a timer or mechanic so to speak so last thing he will be doing will not be posting a log which we have an agreement I will be the one working on this project so a log from.kikazz will not happen I'm sure kn offered to post up as he gets it in patience is well worth it ,and yes they did buy the ecu without even knowing if it would work , theres a thing called believe and trust which most if not all on the forum here have seen jandr displayed and without them helping I'm sure I would be way behind ,tldream will even glad post up some logs as well as he's waiting also ,I think the logs are even better when someone other than jandr post them up too ,forcefed over here we usually make things happen so no worries about if ecu will or does it work with a trip to Canada by kikazz and a 561 whp daily driven tune along with our relentlessly testing I can say we will.all soon have an ecu which.we've all waited for ...
05-04-2011, 09:58 PM
#180
I have no doubt it will work, I am sure it will be great. I just would like to see a log when some people get the ECU. I am just used to seeing multiple logs everyday posted by users with tuned vehicles so I figured someone would be happy to post them here too. I am not saying they are going to look bad, because I'm sure they won't, I just wanted to see how it looks that's all. 
05-05-2011, 07:40 PM
#181
Instructor
20-25whp/tq without changing the VTEC point...that's serious business. I don't know for sure that changing the VTEC point will allow more tunability/power, but I want to say I'm 99.9% sure it will because every other Honda has seen benefit from a lower VTEC point. Not only that, but Honda didn't implement the crossover point in the Accord/TL for performance purposes either...
05-06-2011, 12:00 AM
#183
05-06-2011, 08:05 AM
#184
Rodney's base tune has been good enough to use and I have been holding back at the moment, but you'll be able to collect logs and tell if anything is terribly wrong. I am also hopeful that the software to automatically adjust will be of some help. I'll eventually get it dyno'd but the DD numbers are what I care about.
05-06-2011, 09:41 AM
#185
All motor
The FIC has been put to the test and is now able to tune both open/closed loop. I'm not trying to steer anyone away from this ECU in my post. All I am saying is for N/A guys, this ECU is not NEEDED. I will say that whether N/A or FI, there is no better tuning option. The FIC should be a close 2nd though in terms of N/A tuning.
05-06-2011, 01:46 PM
#187
Race Director
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05-06-2011, 10:18 PM
#188
Safety Car
And let's not forget the importance of being able to raise the RPM limiter to allow a bigger camshaft. Up to this point in time, a big camshaft was out of the question because bigger camshafts (by definition) move the peak horsepower RPM much higher (500-1000 RPM higher).
05-07-2011, 01:05 AM
#189
10th Gear
Rodney bro !!! I am in
how much deposit do you want for the ecu unit?
I will show my support
email me afgkid4life@sbcglobal.net, or tell the deposit amount and I will email you
I will show my support
email me afgkid4life@sbcglobal.net, or tell the deposit amount and I will email you
05-07-2011, 08:26 AM
#190
I hope I won't come off wrong (especially in this thread), when saying this. This ECU will work for us N/A guys, but as I understand, it's more inclined for the boosted guys. The fact is, the TL already has as much timing as it's going to need N/A as people have said they knock on stock maps. There is a knock sensor which I'm sure will work great. This works very well for N/A as we have seen already. I just don't think it is NEEDED to tune an N/A vehicle.
The FIC has been put to the test and is now able to tune both open/closed loop. I'm not trying to steer anyone away from this ECU in my post. All I am saying is for N/A guys, this ECU is not NEEDED. I will say that whether N/A or FI, there is no better tuning option. The FIC should be a close 2nd though in terms of N/A tuning.
The FIC has been put to the test and is now able to tune both open/closed loop. I'm not trying to steer anyone away from this ECU in my post. All I am saying is for N/A guys, this ECU is not NEEDED. I will say that whether N/A or FI, there is no better tuning option. The FIC should be a close 2nd though in terms of N/A tuning.
Most people who have logged that said they were getting to much timing, to the point of knock, was upper rpm after the gas was let off, or in between shifts. The ecu will have better ability to pull timing where you dont want it, and put it in where you do.
05-09-2011, 01:27 PM
#191
Racer
I'm in, paypal sent. Planning on starting with the default tune Rodney sends out for my NA setup, but anyone know of a good tuner in the Seattle area? Any suggested reading for self-tuning (e.g. ECU datalogging + tweaking) or bad idea?
Hoping things are pretty rock solid before they ship 1st release and that it's firmware updatable via USB, just in case. Would be great to have this for the summer!
Hoping things are pretty rock solid before they ship 1st release and that it's firmware updatable via USB, just in case. Would be great to have this for the summer!
05-09-2011, 09:03 PM
#192
You have arguably one of the best tuners in the North west outside your door. Check out speedfactory.
http://www.speedfactoryracing.net/
05-10-2011, 04:25 PM
#193
Racer
You have arguably one of the best tuners in the North west outside your door. Check out speedfactory.
http://www.speedfactoryracing.net/
http://www.speedfactoryracing.net/
05-11-2011, 08:43 PM
#194
I hope I won't come off wrong (especially in this thread), when saying this. This ECU will work for us N/A guys, but as I understand, it's more inclined for the boosted guys. The fact is, the TL already has as much timing as it's going to need N/A as people have said they knock on stock maps. There is a knock sensor which I'm sure will work great. This works very well for N/A as we have seen already. I just don't think it is NEEDED to tune an N/A vehicle.
The FIC has been put to the test and is now able to tune both open/closed loop. I'm not trying to steer anyone away from this ECU in my post. All I am saying is for N/A guys, this ECU is not NEEDED. I will say that whether N/A or FI, there is no better tuning option. The FIC should be a close 2nd though in terms of N/A tuning.
The FIC has been put to the test and is now able to tune both open/closed loop. I'm not trying to steer anyone away from this ECU in my post. All I am saying is for N/A guys, this ECU is not NEEDED. I will say that whether N/A or FI, there is no better tuning option. The FIC should be a close 2nd though in terms of N/A tuning.
05-12-2011, 10:00 AM
#197
^exactly. There was some work being done to take this a step further but Rodney's solution took it many steps further.
Not sure how far you went Brandon, maybe people would be interested in what you were cooking up and take the F/IC's off our hands when we get going on the MS ECU.
Not sure how far you went Brandon, maybe people would be interested in what you were cooking up and take the F/IC's off our hands when we get going on the MS ECU.
05-31-2011, 02:27 PM
#198
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05-31-2011, 10:05 PM
#199
Burning Brakes
is this ECU available yet or still being worked out!!! I might have to find a way to come up with the funds for this real soon!
