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#242
ok, got a piece of metal, bent it up and I don't like it. Scratch that idea. $10 wasted.
Under the rug there is an insulator. It's a +$150 part and it goes up behind the dash right up to the windshield on the passenger side so it will be a bitch to replace. But I think I could cut a hole in it and recess it so there is little if none of it sticking above the current floor height.
Just trying to get the courage to cut it.
Under the rug there is an insulator. It's a +$150 part and it goes up behind the dash right up to the windshield on the passenger side so it will be a bitch to replace. But I think I could cut a hole in it and recess it so there is little if none of it sticking above the current floor height.
Just trying to get the courage to cut it.
#243
I wonder if it's easier to move the stock ECU so that the J&R unit can fit in the stock location? The stock ECU definitely has a shorter height and length, though it's definitely wider.
#245
Burning Brakes
ha ngood thought bmeyer we didnt even think of that , we did install it by footwell ,my next task will be making smaller covers for better fitment in due time...
#246
I cut the insulation and I am going to mount the MS3 to the firewall/floorboard. I cut and bent the 16ga steel into a C shape that fits exactly on top of the box and is 12 inches long. Drilled and tapped the MS3 case and will use button head hex screws to mount it.
I want so protection for the connectors on each side so I offset it by 1 1/2 inches on the USB side and the D-Sub connector side goes past the connector covers.
Then I am going to make a foam piece to fill in the gaps on the floor. It shouldn't be too bad for the passenger.
I thought about cutting up the glove compartment but there is limited amounts of storage to begin with. I have my Alky unit in one of the compartments under the radio and I need to find a place for an EDFC unit. So I wanted to keep my glove compartment intact if at all possible.
#247
One tactic may be to build two smaller boxes with a strap in between, but it will require longer leads. You may consider making the leads to the d-sub connectors longer so the unit could be mounted under the seat or something further back in the car. That's assuming the leads aren't already as long as they can be for impedance or resistive reasons.
#248
Safety Car
As part of the TL Diet, I had removed this insulation. It is approx one inch thick. You could cut-out a section (using a xacto knife or similar cutting blade) as one whole section. Then, if you wanted to replace it later, the section could be inserted back into the cut-out (with the carpet holding it in place).
#249
As part of the TL Diet, I had removed this insulation. It is approx one inch thick. You could cut-out a section (using a xacto knife or similar cutting blade) as one whole section. Then, if you wanted to replace it later, the section could be inserted back into the cut-out (with the carpet holding it in place).
For others, you may consider buying a set of 37 pin extension cables. That will allow you to install it under the seat, in the armrest or even on the drivers side.
I just need to wire up the MS3 to analog output of the AEM wideband, rewire the boost solenoid and connect the vacuum/boost hose.
Here are some pics:
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#250
Are the plugs standard 37-pin D-Sub connectors? I wonder if the gauge of wire that is typically used in standard extension cables would be enough to handle the requirements of the various components?
#253
Instructor
I was just wondering if anyone would think a MS2 could be tuned to the same affect as the MS3? I have an almost completed MS2 and was just curious if any additional daughter boards would need to be/ would be able to be added to support this engine. Thanks for the help.
#254
Everything is in, connected and the car started. I am having problems connecting my Macbook to the MS3 so I am working on it now.
Haven't driven it yet but the idle A/F is in the 12-13 range now. I want to get the computer attached so I can create some logs.
More as soon as it's available.
Haven't driven it yet but the idle A/F is in the 12-13 range now. I want to get the computer attached so I can create some logs.
More as soon as it's available.
#255
Just came back from a short drive.
Holy Moley, drive-ability is a million times better than before. Acceleration and deceleration is silky smooth. The boost comes in a lot more tame and up in the 3-4K range so I get a slight bit of wheelspin on stock tires with about 8.5lbs of boost.
I've got a set of Aspec wheels with Conti DW's waiting to go on.
I'm even getting the 'G-coupe' deceleration sounds from my exhaust.
I am one totally satisfied customer. The wait was well worth it.
Holy Moley, drive-ability is a million times better than before. Acceleration and deceleration is silky smooth. The boost comes in a lot more tame and up in the 3-4K range so I get a slight bit of wheelspin on stock tires with about 8.5lbs of boost.
I've got a set of Aspec wheels with Conti DW's waiting to go on.
I'm even getting the 'G-coupe' deceleration sounds from my exhaust.
I am one totally satisfied customer. The wait was well worth it.
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am super jelly....waiting for this ECU to get tested on a NA car....
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am fine with that....am in KC so in the winter in snow i usually try not to drive my car....so i can have it from April to October and you can from Nov to March (rest of the year and not rest of the yearsss)
#260
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doesnt take much work, but they must be flow tested, and the modifications must be precise. Talk to Rodney about getting it done, he can explain the process.
I will have full before and after dyno on my car, I think its pretty reasonable to gain 30ish whp. I will be looking for 300-310 whp, and hoping to drop my car into the 11's.
#262
All motor
He has the J35a8 from the TL Type S in a 5G Prelude. I believe it's around 2900lbs give or take. 11s might be a little optimistic, but I can definitely see 12.3-12.5 @110-112 based off his previous best.
TLDream: A full second off your PB of 12.8 with only 30whp gained is pretty optimistic. I hope you break into the 11s, but you're gonna need more than 30whp. Although I know it will be throughout the band, I still can't see that shaving off a full second.
TLDream: A full second off your PB of 12.8 with only 30whp gained is pretty optimistic. I hope you break into the 11s, but you're gonna need more than 30whp. Although I know it will be throughout the band, I still can't see that shaving off a full second.
#263
Burning Brakes
^!!!
@ sonnick,
if he shaves some more weight off that 2900lbs and then it is very possible!!!
either way GL on reaching 11's keep us posted for sure
@ sonnick,
if he shaves some more weight off that 2900lbs and then it is very possible!!!
either way GL on reaching 11's keep us posted for sure
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#264
All motor
#265
Suzuka Master
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He has the J35a8 from the TL Type S in a 5G Prelude. I believe it's around 2900lbs give or take. 11s might be a little optimistic, but I can definitely see 12.3-12.5 @110-112 based off his previous best.
TLDream: A full second off your PB of 12.8 with only 30whp gained is pretty optimistic. I hope you break into the 11s, but you're gonna need more than 30whp. Although I know it will be throughout the band, I still can't see that shaving off a full second.
TLDream: A full second off your PB of 12.8 with only 30whp gained is pretty optimistic. I hope you break into the 11s, but you're gonna need more than 30whp. Although I know it will be throughout the band, I still can't see that shaving off a full second.
#266
Instructor
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He has the J35a8 from the TL Type S in a 5G Prelude. I believe it's around 2900lbs give or take. 11s might be a little optimistic, but I can definitely see 12.3-12.5 @110-112 based off his previous best.
TLDream: A full second off your PB of 12.8 with only 30whp gained is pretty optimistic. I hope you break into the 11s, but you're gonna need more than 30whp. Although I know it will be throughout the band, I still can't see that shaving off a full second.
TLDream: A full second off your PB of 12.8 with only 30whp gained is pretty optimistic. I hope you break into the 11s, but you're gonna need more than 30whp. Although I know it will be throughout the band, I still can't see that shaving off a full second.
When I raced my buddys TL, I weighted in at 3404lbs with me in the car. My prelude is probably 2800-2900ish.
#269
All motor
^^ Didn't you trap close to 105 in the TL with bolt ons/S2k wheels/DRs? If so, that's very impressive. How much did those wheels weigh? I'm kind of interested in looking for a lightweight setup for the track.
#277
Suzuka Master
anxiously waiting for the results
#278
Burning Brakes
Results is in the first page with xiamaro Tl types n/a with primary cats in place , too much testing and no sales will eventually cause disaster so for now we will be slowing down and catering to current customers a choice that we have to male to keep financially stable , and keep introducing parts that are needed
#280
Burning Brakes
Oh no don't think for a minute were going anywhere or stop making products we will be here for a long time as we ate tring to fort a 4g owner to let us turbocharge the 4g