AccordFlex

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strange I never had idle issues.

swoosh

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ditto

Atlas.46

My idle issue was from a vaccum leak. Fixing it this weekend.

vill0169

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where'd you find it? I checked most of the bolt and they seem fine. Was surprised how "no-tightly" torqued the actual manifold bolts were. meaning the one's holding the two pieces of the mani together.

I'll do some more hunting for that too I guess.

vill0169

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I THINK I FOUND THE PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!! F me that took a while to find. Turns out it was a vacuum leak...but not from what I would have thought. It was the vent filter on my oil catch can. I unplugged it, ran the original tubing just to check it, and BOOM! it worked just fine. This baffles the hell outta me because I ran the exact same setup for 2 years on the old manifold and it worked just fine. So I don't know if the new PCV valve works differently or whatever but I'm pretty sure I fixed the issue.

I'm going to unload the car at the track now so I'll update after I run her around a lil bit.

Thanks for all the help though guys!

rockfordmtx

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This is my first posting so please cut me some slack. I have been checking pricing for all of this and what I have come up with was $384.10 (not including shipping) for the manifold, bolts, studs, nuts and throttle body through www.hondapartsunlimited.com. I figure that everyone would the P2R gaskets and spacers...

Sonnick

^ That can't be including both parts of the manifold and the throttle body. You need the upper and lower portion of the manifold. It comes to around ~380 for the full manifold alone.

rockfordmtx

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Sonnick....the prices I put up was for a Type S. Since the top part can be re-used from what I have read. I ran the numbers with that through the same place and it was 524 and change. I'm totally interested in doing this along with the P2R runners. Then re-tune with the Hondata

Sonnick

^ My bad. If you have a Type S you are correct, you can swap the top manifold. Nice work for your 2nd post

NIGHTEHAWK

Just so I'm clear, for my 05 auto, I need the parts from the first post, no more no less right?

i_love_cars

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Yes you need everything I listed in the "Required Parts" section and you also need the "Additional Parts" section because you have an 04-06 which requires the cover plate from 07+ that is noted in the "Additional Parts" section.

Order everything listed there and you will have everything you need.

NIGHTEHAWK

thanks.

hondazex

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little issue with bouncy idle after quick press on pedal and jerking at low throttle cruize 5% ... 3.7 map sensor ..

swoosh

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did this a couple weeks back



Then I decided to call Emma Watson


engorgio

swoosh

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PS: I did add another clamp from the silicone coupler to the intake...I was out of clamps so drove to Home depot and got a clamp....

Atlas.46

do your 4" intake have a 45 degree bend before that coupler? Didnt know your battery was in the trunk?

I was thinking about doing a custom ice box and going to a smaller battery in the front.

swoosh

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^^^ my tiny 11lb battery is under the passenger seat....I wanted to make some space for my oil catch can

the battery doesnt do shit LOL...i have to jump the car every damn time LOL....I will be upgrading to a 21lb braille battery....10 more lbs but am hoping it will be good to turn the car over....

when I was running the SRI, I was thinking of a light weight "barrier" if you will to isolate the filter so it wont heat soak as well....but with the CAI, thats not an issue

EDIT: btw 4" and 90deg bend...it was tough to get it to fit....lucky enough when I was installing a CAI on a Type S, I found a little 4" coupler on the OEM system which I ended up using....

NvrDwn

I'll share on of my secrets I recently came across that now makes me confident I can makes these fit in tls. Go buy yourself a 4'' 90 degree coupler put it on top of the metal 90 degree bend, make a line slightly shorter the the length of the silicone 90 degree bend and then cut that portion of the metal intake out and put the silicone 90 degree bend in its place. You will then be able to have an intake that fits much better and won't disrupt flow. But don't tell anyone I shared my secret

swoosh

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^^^ the problem with the 90deg coupler is it flexes and on the bend it makes curve uneven and hence messes up the airflow....the pipe is smooth on the inside and hence keep the air flow 'straight'

rockstar143

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Looking good, man...that's a huge tube, wow.

swoosh

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Thanks Jeremy

NvrDwn

If you leave some extra room on the pipe it can be adjusted. Also you can weld on a steel rod to make sure everything stays where it should.

swoosh

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^^^ toooo much work...dont ya think

hondazex

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issue resolved after two day with coolant bypass mods and raise little bit the srew idle !!

rubenders

Nice

rubenders

Just came from a mini deployment I know when I did the video about how to fix the idle I say I was going to get it tune that month I didn't have tome to get it don had to go out to sea but is official this Saturday I will get it tune so I will be getting the full potential of this 3.7 set up.

EvilVirus

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You guys didn't PnP the IM unless you have at least ported the heads correct?

Sonnick

^ You should port match the lower ports to the runners....if you have stock runners you should be fine, but if the runners are ported, you will be better off matching them. Then if you port the heads, you should match the *other* side of the runners to the head.

Grand_hustle17

Was the tl with this 3.7 IM dynoed?.. might of missed it in the pages

i_love_cars

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wut lol i updated the first post of the thread with dyno charts, lol

Grand_hustle17

Lol... Started at the last page

Grand_hustle17

For whatever reason i though this was a 07 3.2tl lol... Srry, on my cell

vtecAccordV6

do i need extended bolts to be able to mount the 3.7L TL SH-AWD 3.7L IM onto the MDX Spacer?

Sonnick

^ Oh sh1t, TypeR-AV6 lol.

03 tls nc

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This thread is awesome just gave up an hour of my life LOL. I know im tin the 3G forum but looking to take my j32a2 to 3.5 or 3.6 and this looks like the way to go. does any one know is the low runners off a 08 tls will fit on the j32a2 or would i be better off port matching what I have. Note I have a set of 08 tls lower runners laying around so I could have them ready for the swap.

i_love_cars

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i'm pretty sure the runners will fit. Gerzand got my stock type-s intake runners for his j32a2 heads that he was putting on his j35a8 block.

mzilvar

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Just ordered this setup myself .. curious, did you guys see any gains having the ZDX TB bored out by max bore?

I read through the whole thread and only saw a little info on any gains from it, like 1hp ?

Is it worth it @ $150?

I've also already have the P2R PnP runners in the car. I don't think P2R opens up the runners very much, just removes the castings and polishes them since the ports match up with the stock gaskets without having the gaskets matched.

Is it worth it to PnP the manifold or is it going to match up with the stock gaskets? I could see doing it if the manifold outlet to the runners is slightly smaller than the gasket.

Do they match up?

I also ready they're already pretty smooth, worth my time?

Just curious, trying to plan it out.

swoosh

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I would get the full setup and send it to either Andy or someone who does porting and polishing work....

I know a guy near me who does great work....I gave him the manifold/TB/Runner and all the gaskets....he ported them, port matched them and polished everything....the TB I got the 3.7 SHAWD TL TB and just asked him to polish it....he took off just shy on 1mm but just enough to not have to change the butterfly in there....

when/if I plan to do my heads, I will take the full setup to the guy again and have him port and polish the heads AND port match the runners

anx1300c

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I also already had the P2R runners and all I did was match the P2R thermal gasket to them. The runners and manifold ports were pretty decent. And it's your call on the TB boring. I went back and forth as well, but ended up sending it to Maxbore in the end. Just be sure you're planning a larger CAI to open things up.

That said, my DA corrected trap speed after adding the 3.7 manifold, ZDX TB and self built 4" Airaid CAI, increased by 1.8 mph. I went from 100.5 to 102.3 corrected. Keep in mind, I already had the ported runners and a bored stock TB, but stock manifold was untouched. That's a pretty solid increase, considering our cars need around 8-9 whp for a 1 mph increase. The only other change was switching the front and side motor mounts to XLR8 62A's, but my stock ones weren't even bad, so I doubt that had any effect on trap speed.

swoosh

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^^^ mount will have a biggg difference in your trap speed...I bet your 60' improved a lot as well