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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 07:40 AM
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Let's see your gauges!

not sure if there is already a thread on this, and if so...please direct me to it.

i just want to see where you turbo/SC/JnR ECU guys have your AFR gauges mounted on your 3G. i want to get an idea of where i should put mine.

i'm 90% leaning towards the side pillar next to the windshield, and having it wrapped in matching color (black/grey)

lets see some pics!
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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 08:13 AM
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I would like to know if you can use a simple A/F ratio gauge on the stock wide-band O2 sensors. That way you don't have to buy some $200+ controller & gauge. Anybody done this?
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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 08:18 AM
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^in for answers...
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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 09:15 AM
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No, an aftermarket AFR gauge can *not* be connected to the oem wideband sensor.

Yes, you can monitor your AFR (via the oem O2 sensor) by using an ODBII scanner. But according to Rodney, this might not be an option if you have the JnR ecu. See links below -


Data Loggers (click here)

Obdii scanners advice (click here)

Engine Parameter Monitoring without gauges...Yay/Nay Thread (click here)


Has anyone done a search for "gauges"?

Here are a few links to get you started regarding mounting gauges -

Link 1 (click here)

Link 2 (click here)

Link 3 (click here)


And check pages 64-65 and 78-80 of this thread below -

Turbo Kit for Acura TL 04-08 (click here)

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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 09:17 AM
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^you're the man tim!

where did you get the gauge holders? i'm trying to figure out how i should mount them to the pillar like you did.

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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 09:51 AM
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Sorry to go off topic, but I don't get why you guys just don't petition Hondata to crack the TL ECU. The Acura/Keihin ECU is 100% flashable/programable through the OBD2 port and only needs the aftermarket support to open up it's function to the masses. The whole JRN ECU route seems over complicated, over expensive, and silly to me.

Hondata flashpro only costs $700 and uses all stock electronics & sensors. No wasting $2k on aftermarket junk.

http://www.hondata.com/flashpro.html
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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by SharksBreath

where did you get the gauge holders? i'm trying to figure out how i should mount them to the pillar like you did.
JnR at one time was offering a cool oem looking A-Pillar mount. Please check out the JnR option too.

Below is how I mounted mine -

The AutoMeter Gauge Mounting Cups PN# 2204 (click here) were used to mount the gauges.

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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 94eg!
Sorry to go off topic, but I don't get why you guys just don't petition Hondata to crack the TL ECU. The Acura/Keihin ECU is 100% flashable/programable through the OBD2 port and only needs the aftermarket support to open up it's function to the masses. The whole JRN ECU route seems over complicated, over expensive, and silly to me.

Hondata flashpro only costs $700 and uses all stock electronics & sensors. No wasting $2k on aftermarket junk.

http://www.hondata.com/flashpro.html
people have asked hondata and they ignore the requests

either they are working on it or dont know how to crack the code

right now there is nothing other than MS3 ECU

in all honesty if the TL has been out since 2004 and people have been asking since then and still no product then I highly doubt there will be something...

now if someone has it in with hondata and can get more infromation from them then that would be great.. right now we only hear crickets chirping
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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Inaccurate
JnR at one time was offering a cool oem looking A-Pillar mount. Please check out the JnR option too.

Below is how I mounted mine -

The AutoMeter Gauge Mounting Cups PN# 2204 (click here) were used to mount the gauges.

thanks tim. i just ordered the auto meter 20444 s2k pod. it's the same one jptl04 used to help princlybug do his.

i'm trying to talk jaime into wrapping mine as well.
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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 94eg!
Sorry to go off topic, but I don't get why you guys just don't petition Hondata to crack the TL ECU. The Acura/Keihin ECU is 100% flashable/programable through the OBD2 port and only needs the aftermarket support to open up it's function to the masses. The whole JRN ECU route seems over complicated, over expensive, and silly to me.

Hondata flashpro only costs $700 and uses all stock electronics & sensors. No wasting $2k on aftermarket junk.

http://www.hondata.com/flashpro.html
Hondata ran a couple of pilots, there may still be one or two running their modifications but for whatever reason, it died.

Back on topic, I put my boost and wideband on the A pillar. I have a new cover waiting to go on and I am planning on moving mine somewhere else. Seems to attract too much attention. Yes they're crooked in these pictures.





This is Rodney's pod




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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 11:15 AM
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thanks for the pics.

this is how mine will end up looking, except with a LC1 gauge in place.

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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by KN_TL
Hondata ran a couple of pilots, there may still be one or two running their modifications but for whatever reason, it died.

Back on topic, I put my boost and wideband on the A pillar. I have a new cover waiting to go on and I am planning on moving mine somewhere else. Seems to attract too much attention. Yes they're crooked in these pictures.

This is Rodney's pod



Actually i think thats my pod. He was making mine up when that pic was taken. It's a Triple with megan guages, and they match the stock type s gauges really well.
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Old Apr 12, 2012 | 01:07 AM
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Old Apr 12, 2012 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 94eg!
Sorry to go off topic, but I don't get why you guys just don't petition Hondata to crack the TL ECU. The Acura/Keihin ECU is 100% flashable/programable through the OBD2 port and only needs the aftermarket support to open up it's function to the masses. The whole JRN ECU route seems over complicated, over expensive, and silly to me.

Hondata flashpro only costs $700 and uses all stock electronics & sensors. No wasting $2k on aftermarket junk.

http://www.hondata.com/flashpro.html
Holy ****balls your attitude is pissing me off today.

  1. The JnR ECU is $1400.
  2. Over complicated?! It's P-n-P. Do you read before you post? Or try products yourself before you pass judgement?
  3. As it is, it's the only option.
  4. Look at the results it's getting on just bolt on cars! Dollar/HP gained is pretty level with most mods.
  5. How the hell can you call someone else's hard, tedious work 'junk'. If you're so brilliant, why don't you figure it out and then sell it to us at a fraction of the cost like you think you'd be able to.
  6. Where the **** have you been? Petition Hondata? Hah, go waste your time man! Pretty sure people have been doing this for years!
You know most of your posts are helpful and spot on. I expect more from you.

On a side note, I have a buddy who has been tuning forever and is very deep in that crowd. He is SWEARING to me now that he can completely tune our cars without an additional ECU. Not sure how or via what but he swears it and he's never failed me. When I know more I'll start a thread. Pretty sure it has something to do with Hondata's TSX release...
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Old Apr 12, 2012 | 02:47 PM
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Oh...wrong kind of gauges... :P

Edit: shameless plug just trying to liven up the thread. didn't mean to derail it earlier. sorry op

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Old Apr 12, 2012 | 02:58 PM
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^ it's cool...i got my answer anyway.

how hard is it to pry that piece off? i need to wrap mine too.
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Old Apr 12, 2012 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SharksBreath
^ it's cool...i got my answer anyway.

how hard is it to pry that piece off? i need to wrap mine too.
Super easy. It's has the 'nice to play with' kind of tabs. Not the gay ones. So you really can't hurt it.

I've redone mine a couple of times to make it look perfect and so that the dinoc doesn't lift up in certain places because of the heat.
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Old Apr 12, 2012 | 04:22 PM
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Quick pic of the gauge pod i made.

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can post some with the gauges when i find them.
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Old Apr 12, 2012 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by KN_TL
Hondata ran a couple of pilots, there may still be one or two running their modifications but for whatever reason, it died.

Back on topic, I put my boost and wideband on the A pillar. I have a new cover waiting to go on and I am planning on moving mine somewhere else. Seems to attract too much attention. Yes they're crooked in these pictures.





This is Rodney's pod



black panther represent!
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Old Apr 12, 2012 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SharksBreath
thanks for the pics.

this is how mine will end up looking, except with a LC1 gauge in place.









where do i get this pod , it is perfect
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Old Apr 12, 2012 | 10:24 PM
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I think it's a s2000 gauge pod made by autometer that is slightly streched to fit and covered on a close fabric.
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Old Apr 12, 2012 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 94eg!
Sorry to go off topic, but I don't get why you guys just don't petition Hondata to crack the TL ECU. The Acura/Keihin ECU is 100% flashable/programable through the OBD2 port and only needs the aftermarket support to open up it's function to the masses. The whole JRN ECU route seems over complicated, over expensive, and silly to me.

Hondata flashpro only costs $700 and uses all stock electronics & sensors. No wasting $2k on aftermarket junk.

http://www.hondata.com/flashpro.html


They've been 'petitioned' over and over.

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/hondata-595337/


Just search "Hondata" in thread titles and you'll get multiple results.
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 07:13 AM
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Here is where that picture came from:

Originally Posted by jptl04
today i installed an autometer shift light for my friend Scott or princelybug, as you might know him on the forum. he said he felt the need for it when he was tracking his car. "cant really take your eyes of the road" he said, this should help or assist him when shifting. oh yeah he kinda helped

the shift light gauge was installed in a modified S2K pillar pod, they don't make pods for the TL so i to Scott to get the S2K pod. it was close to our pillar. trimmed it down some used some heat to give it the correct shape of the TL pillar, then wrapped it in headliner material to give it that OEM look.

the gauge has a digital readout of the current rpm's, there are also a few other settings you could dial in. you could set and adjust the rpm shifting points to what ever you like when it reaches that rpm point the gauge lights up a pyramid of yellow lights, indicating when to shift to the next gear. wiring was straight forward, not difficult but time consuming. power, ground, and tach signal. our cars dont have and individual wire for the tachometer reading, rather a signal wire that goes to the gauge cluster with multiple info for the tach, speedo, fuel etc...

to remedy this we had to install a tach adapter to provide us with the correct tach signal readout, this adapter had to be wired in series to each of the six coils on the TL-S. this gave us the the individual tach signal.

overall the gauge light works perfectly i think the install looks really clean and tasteful. but most of all i think it looks cool

here are some pics of the install

here is the shift light gauge in a modified S2K pod


mock up install unwrapped


wrapped pod




drilled a small hole in the a pillar for the wires


tach adapter


power signal for each of the six coils had to be cut to wire the adapter, to reverse this it just a simple matter of soldering and shrink tubing. its only a small wire don't be scared.


crimped connectors for power side and coil side of the wire


coils wired in series to the tach adapter




small push button switch for power to the gauge light


i used some epoxy to mount the pod to the a pillar, looks pretty OEMish to me






outside view of the pod




comments welcome


Originally Posted by princelybug
Gauge: Auto Meter Sport Comp Digital Pro Shift Light Gauge (3387)
Pod: Auto Meter S2000 A-Pillar Gauge Pod (20444)

This mod was specifically for my benefit at the track. I'm pretty confident that I'm not only the 1st, but the ONE AND ONLY 3G TL Type-S with this mod!









Props go out to Jaime (jptl04). Yes, there was a thread made already for this here: https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/first-autometer-shift-light-install-mt-tl-s-pics-740222/, but this is my thread!

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