A V710 / 04TL HFL Problem

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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 02:11 AM
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A V710 / 04TL HFL Problem

Since I owned a Sony Ericsson T610 & T618 previously, I can state that there is a definite difference in functionality with the V710:

When driving along in my 04TL, I'll notice that my V710 will ring (vibrate) for a few seconds (2-3 rings) before the HFL will notice it and start ringing over the car's audio system.

My S/E T610 would ring on the HFL immediately.

Some people may think this is a minor problem, but this means that I will need to wear my phone while driving instead of sticking it in the center console with the charger to keep the battery fresh. Also, some folks may hang up after just a few rings. I may miss more calls if this is a permanent problem.

Has anyone else noticed this?
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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 05:09 AM
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Mine picks up right away..
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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 09:18 AM
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I wonder if this is because I have "Vibrate & Ring" selected, then?

Oooh .... Oooh .... Oooh .... GOTTA test this!
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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 10:09 AM
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Mine does the same....it will vibe w/o the HFL alerting me, but as soon as it goes from vibe to ring (since I have it sent to vibe/ring) it will ring.

GotJazz...it your set to vibe/ring or just vibe?
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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 01:14 PM
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I use just the ring.. Let me know what you come up with.. Now I am wondering.
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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 09:08 PM
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I don't have this problem. The V710 picks up right away. It may be the vibrate setting?
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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by VTEC=happiness
Mine does the same....it will vibe w/o the HFL alerting me, but as soon as it goes from vibe to ring (since I have it sent to vibe/ring) it will ring.

GotJazz...it your set to vibe/ring or just vibe?
I definitely had it set to Vibrate / Ring when this problem was first noticed. I tried to test this tonight on the ride home, but none of my friends were available.

If my suspicions are correct, I think Motorola took things way too far for the "quiet mode" of operation. In the car, I almost always have it on "vibrate" with my S/E 610, since I probably wouldn't hear it over the stereo.

If this is true, it should be a user-selectable option on whether the HFL system rings during Vibrate Mode. Motorola shouldn't be deciding this for us.
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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 11:56 PM
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News flash!

This news flash just in ....

My bro helped me test out my theory, and it looks like I may be right about a firmware bug.

V710 "Vibrate & Ring" mode: No HFL notification until the phone switches to "Ring" mode.

V710 "Vibrate" mode: Instant HFL notification, and the phone doesn't vibrate at all.

I guess that there's still a question of: "If I feel the V710 vibrating in the "Vibrate & Ring" mode, can I hit the HFL "Answer" button and have the V710 send the call to the HFL properly?

Don't know yet. Stay tuned for further updates.

Your friendly neighborhood Anal-Retentive Engineer,
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 11:04 AM
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Keep us posted

Originally Posted by żGotJazz?
This news flash just in ....

My bro helped me test out my theory, and it looks like I may be right about a firmware bug.

V710 "Vibrate & Ring" mode: No HFL notification until the phone switches to "Ring" mode.

V710 "Vibrate" mode: Instant HFL notification, and the phone doesn't vibrate at all.

I guess that there's still a question of: "If I feel the V710 vibrating in the "Vibrate & Ring" mode, can I hit the HFL "Answer" button and have the V710 send the call to the HFL properly?

Don't know yet. Stay tuned for further updates.

Your friendly neighborhood Anal-Retentive Engineer,
I'm having the same "problem" as I always have my phone just in "vibrate" mode. Let me know how your experiment goes.

Thanks for all the useful information. This site is great.
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 09:26 AM
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i always have mine on vibrate, and when its connected to the hfl, it dosent
vibrate, it just rings thru the hfl. and it seems to be on point.
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by milesstylez
i always have mine on vibrate, and when its connected to the hfl, it dosent
vibrate, it just rings thru the hfl. and it seems to be on point.
milesstylez - I too have noticed that the V710 seems to notify the HFL properly in the "Vibrate" mode. The "Vibrate / Ring" mode seems to operate differently, for some reason.
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 02:59 AM
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Make sure also that in the headset settings that the auto answer and voice dial are both off. This helped me figure out why mine wasn't ringing in loud mode. It also seems that the ringing tone you use seems to affect whether the HFL is notified of an incoming call or not. I hope the next firmware fixes all these issues.
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by VTEC=happiness
Mine does the same....it will vibe w/o the HFL alerting me, but as soon as it goes from vibe to ring (since I have it sent to vibe/ring) it will ring.

GotJazz...it your set to vibe/ring or just vibe?

BUG in the V710. If it is in SILENT mode it will NOT alert the HFL of a pending call.
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxfli
BUG in the V710. If it is in SILENT mode it will NOT alert the HFL of a pending call.
Why is that a bug. If it's in SILENT mode wouldn't that mean you don't want to be alerted to any incoming calls?? The phone won't ring or vibrate yet you want the HFL to alert you?
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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by briden
Why is that a bug. If it's in SILENT mode wouldn't that mean you don't want to be alerted to any incoming calls?? The phone won't ring or vibrate yet you want the HFL to alert you?
I would call it a bug. "Silent Mode" is usually for meetings or movie theaters. When you are driving, I can't think of many good situations whare you wouldn't want the HFL system to notify you of an incoming call. And if you don't want to receive a call while you're driving - just turn the phone off.

If I remember right, my T610 would still audibly ring on the HFL even when the phone was set to "Silent".
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by briden
Why is that a bug. If it's in SILENT mode wouldn't that mean you don't want to be alerted to any incoming calls?? The phone won't ring or vibrate yet you want the HFL to alert you?
Bug? Feature? I assumed it was a bug. Oh well...

I setup my profiles so that when I am in Hands-Free mode I do not want the phone to "ring". The HFL will tell you you have a call. It's just a thing...
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